Anton To Face Fans Backlash?

[floyd__streete]

Deary me, the comparisons to Portsmouth and the like are so woefully ill-informed and inaccurate based on current 'evidence' that I'd happily back RFC in any legal actions they might be tempted to take.

You'd happily back them in any legal actions? I am sure they are delighted to call on you as a character witness. You insufferable sycophant, a new low even for you.

Article raises some very reasonable questions. Questions which I suspect TSI wouldn't wish to answer in a million years

[floyd__streete]

Question Four : Has TSI submitted its annual accounts yet? It was reported by Telegraph Sport on August 2nd 2013 that Reading Football Club Limited had claimed an exemption from submitting a mandatory cash-flow statement as part of its own accounts for the 2011/12 season, but this exemption was invalid because TSI had not filed its accounts since being incorporated in January last year, with the end result that Reading Football Club Limited was subject to an investigation by Companies House

Erm.....ALARM. BELLS.

[ZacNaloen]

That's a nothing question because TSI still don't need to submit them until January.

[floyd__streete]

That's a nothing question because TSI still don't need to submit them until January.

Cool, so what are/were Companies House investigating then?

[ZacNaloen]

Because Reading had their own obligations to fulfill regardless, it was a mistake by the clubs accountants. A rookie mistake as well.

[floyd__streete]

Because Reading had their own obligations to fulfill regardless, it was a mistake by the clubs accountants. A rookie mistake as well.

Ok. Do the club's accountants make a habit of such basic errors? Sounds like a milkman forgetting to deliver the milk.....

[ZacNaloen]

I honestly have no idea.

I hope not.

[floyd__streete]

I honestly have no idea.

I hope not.

A most unfortunate coincidence perhaps

[Uke]

ALARM. BELLS.

http://youtu.be/HcFd5j1cios

[Compo's Hat]

Get alerted by Floyd to this thread and no surprise its people like winchester royal who are posting thinking they know it all, or should that be sticking their heads in the sand.

[winchester_royal]

Deary me, the comparisons to Portsmouth and the like are so woefully ill-informed and inaccurate based on current 'evidence' that I'd happily back RFC in any legal actions they might be tempted to take.

You'd happily back them in any legal actions? I am sure they are delighted to call on you as a character witness. You insufferable sycophant, a new low even for you.

Article raises some very reasonable questions. Questions which I suspect TSI wouldn't wish to answer in a million years

Yes, it raises some interesting questions, but no more interesting than the many that have been used to counter the idea that TSI are damaging the club, questions which the likes of you seem to pass over quite happily.

[winchester_royal]

Not submitting accounts is a pretty minor error, which at the very most carries a miniscule financial penalty. This was all dealt with a couple of months ago. Do keep up Floyd.

[winchester_royal]

Get alerted by Floyd to this thread and no surprise its people like winchester royal who are posting thinking they know it all, or should that be sticking their heads in the sand.

I'll happily admit I don't know it all. However I'm not the one jumping up and down shouting 'conspiracy' at every little thing the club comes out with. The stuff you guys are getting worked up about is so fcuking minute compared to some of the stuff that is happening at clubs up and down the country. I'm happy to listen to evidence that people have against AZ, but if the worst thing you can come up with is that the club forgot to file accounts (something that happens very often in all sectors of business) then calls for a demonstration at a match is at best completely melodramatic. Ask questions, be vigilant, write to the club...yes of course, bodies like STAR should always be doing this, but to divert effort away from what little supporting of the team that actually happens on match days is just ridiculous.

[winchester_royal]

Deary me, the comparisons to Portsmouth and the like are so woefully ill-informed and inaccurate based on current 'evidence' that I'd happily back RFC in any legal actions they might be tempted to take.

You'd happily back them in any legal actions? I am sure they are delighted to call on you as a character witness. You insufferable sycophant, a new low even for you.

Article raises some very reasonable questions. Questions which I suspect TSI wouldn't wish to answer in a million years

Funnily enough, it was a possibility raised by your very own Jon Keen:

I hope @MrCompo either has a good lawyer or starts thinking before he types.

Anywho, I agree the article raises a couple of interesting questions - but none that I'd expect any football owner to answer publically. They shouldn't have to explain every little thing they do to an overly paranoid fanbase. There are plenty of good things that have happened over the last few months that make up the case against AZ using the club as financial bog roll. I'd suggest if Jon actually acknowledged these and then came to a balanced conclusion that perhaps counters the points that us 'insufferable sycophants' are making then his articles will carry a little more weight.

At the moment all this seems to revolve around 'men in the pub' type rumours. But funnily enough it seems all these messages of impending financial doom haven't filtered through to the guys running the club as a) there's no way the likes of Hammond and Adkins would be sticking around if things were as dodgy as some are suggesting - they could walk into any number of other jobs and wouldn't risk their careers by letting themselves getting tarnished and b) based on NA's interview the training ground development is very much ago and the positivity with which he spoke about the future of the club was thoroughly reassuring. Either he's got a fantastic poker face or there is absolutely nothing wrong behind the scenes.

If there is a case to be made against TSI then I look forward to it being made, but there isn't at the moment, there's just a couple of unanswered questions that we'd like answers to but to which we aren't entitled. Until a reasonable case is made I retain the right to have all parts of my body firmly buried in the sand.

[Ian Royal]

Get alerted by Floyd to this thread and no surprise its people like winchester royal who are posting thinking they know it all, or should that be sticking their heads in the sand.

Being someone who considers empiricism rather important, I'd like to see some actual evidence of shenanigans or that alarm bells need to be rung, before I start ringing them.

And frankly, a delay in a deal going through that is in theory a formality, doesn't seem to be affecting the running of the club and where the club has issued a statement saying all relevant parties are happy with it, fails to undo any of the good work and good statements that have already been done and given.

Now maybe I'm being naive by having some faith in Madejski's judgement. Afterall, what's he done for us over the last 20 years! And maybe I'm being naive by trusting what Anton has been saying and taking it as honestly said. Maybe I'm being naive about the club's finances. But until someone can show me even a hint of something concrete that doesn't come from a mysterious source, a cretin, or someone with an obvious agenda to push then I'll go on holding the view that nothing's wrong and telling people who are taking notice of some of this nonsense that they're being fricking stupid.

Maybe it will go all wrong. It's certainly not impossible. But do you know what? I'll worry about it when it's happening and enjoy the football in the meantime ta.

[SPARTA]

Get alerted by Floyd to this thread and no surprise its people like winchester royal who are posting thinking they know it all, or should that be sticking their heads in the sand.

Says you and your bizarre tweets to encourage outrage from the stands tomorrow.

To show my disgust at this years achievements in securing the Cat 1 academy, new land for a state of the art training facility, and excellent summer investment in the playing staff, I am going to sit there, arms folded, and be totally silent!

* I reserve the right to leap in to the air and be too faced when we go a goal up.

Anton Out!

[melonhead]

I'd like to protest against him. Deary me, the comparisons to Portsmouth and the like are so woefully ill-informed and inaccurate based on current 'evidence' that I'd happily back RFC in any legal actions they might be tempted to take.

http://twohundredpercent.net/?p=24205

Jon Keen really is a massive attention seeking drama queen.

There are a couple of semi-interesting questions there, but nothing that comes even close to being insurmountable evidence to suggest that anything untoward is going on at the club.

If those 4 questions are the worst that the nay-sayers can come up with atm then I feel very comfortable in my pro-status quo stance.

tbf its good to ask questions- some of those are good questions. it would be nice to have answers. and in a perfect world we would have/get them
but i agree they dont seem as dramatic as he thinks they are, and we arent "entitled" to all the answers about any business we are customers of.
yeah it would be nice if it was all utterly transparent though.


unless of course he has other inside info that he cant share for any reason
but either way, i cant have access to that info or its sources so i simply cannot be sure how much relevance i should assign to it.
if he hadnt had so unswervingly negative an agenda about TSI from the beginning, i would have been able to look at his vague hints of conspiracy and trouble and be truly worried.
as it is i just dont know how much significance i should be assigning to his thoughts on the matter.

[floyd__streete]

Funnily enough, it was a possibility raised by your very own Jon Keen:

My very own?

I am sure that Mr Keen will be delighted to hear that you believe he is somehow in my possession

[floyd__streete]

Not submitting accounts is a pretty minor error, which at the very most carries a miniscule financial penalty. This was all dealt with a couple of months ago. Do keep up Floyd.

Ok, in that case it would seem to be the most unfortunate financial coincidence of all time then

As I said, an accountant neglecting to file the accounts seems to me a little like a milkman forgetting to deliver the milk

[Extended-Phenotype]

Buyout deadline being missed
SJM staying on as chair for another 2 years
RFC accounts not being submitted

All unrelated coinkydinks.