by melonhead » 11 Nov 2013 12:47
by floyd__streete » 11 Nov 2013 12:50
Tredder Classic fans in the East Stand, especially the bloke that threw his coat off remonstrating to a few QPR fans after we'd scored, especially as he was sat with his son of about 4, but as always, good before, good after, average in between.
by soggy biscuit » 11 Nov 2013 12:55
melonhead And I'm fully behind the idea of Guthrie being bad because he's being put under alit of pressure by the oppo, isn't being helped much by his fellow players and is possibly injured. I'm jot slagging him off or h8ing him. Hes clearly our most important player, and probably our POS so far.
by Big Foot » 11 Nov 2013 13:03
TBMTredder Pretty average game, Guthrie had a very good game as did Pog, does the horrible work no one else likes doing, McCarthy should at the very least be one of the 3 England squad keepers.
For us, like him or not, Barton is class, Benny had a good game as did Hoilett and Philips, although the latter does more step overs than he runs metres, shame Junior was virtually a bystander for the last 15, as was probably the one player to win it for us.
Classic fans in the East Stand, especially the bloke that threw his coat off remonstrating to a few QPR fans after we'd scored, especially as he was sat with his son of about 4, but as always, good before, good after, average in between.
'greed re Barton, thought he looked superb in the midfield and is too good for this division. I think BAE is also too good for this division, although he didn't close McCleary down well enough for the goal.
I was sat there looking at your squad and if you don't win it this year then something is wrong. I mean you sub off Jenas and on comes Kranjcar
by Maguire » 11 Nov 2013 13:29
Handsome ManVictor Meldrew When you line up a wall you don't expect your right-back to turn away and create a space.
Gunter really should have taken one for the team.
He lined up the wall to take one post and should have been able to cover the other post himself. If a fantastic shot goes up-and-down into the top right corner of his goal, you just have to accept it and say well done to the scorer, but this was nothing like that - it was passed into the massive empty space he left, like a carefully taken penalty. Blaming Gunter is just scapegoating.
by winchester_royal » 11 Nov 2013 13:34
Sanguine I like Obita – lots of promise even if he is a bit raw still. Good pace and looked comfortable on the ball. Same problem as above however – on the two occasions in the second half that Obita beat his man and got the by-line (great to see, not enough of this in our team since GMac seems allergic to it), Jordan crossed the ball only to find there was no-one in the box at all.
by TBM » 11 Nov 2013 13:43
MaguireHandsome ManVictor Meldrew When you line up a wall you don't expect your right-back to turn away and create a space.
Gunter really should have taken one for the team.
He lined up the wall to take one post and should have been able to cover the other post himself. If a fantastic shot goes up-and-down into the top right corner of his goal, you just have to accept it and say well done to the scorer, but this was nothing like that - it was passed into the massive empty space he left, like a carefully taken penalty. Blaming Gunter is just scapegoating.
Yep. As mentioned earlier in the thread, I ws right in line with it and called his poor positioning before the free-kick was even taken. Weird that professionals can get it so wrong tbh.
by BR2 » 11 Nov 2013 13:57
winchester_royalSanguine I like Obita – lots of promise even if he is a bit raw still. Good pace and looked comfortable on the ball. Same problem as above however – on the two occasions in the second half that Obita beat his man and got the by-line (great to see, not enough of this in our team since GMac seems allergic to it), Jordan crossed the ball only to find there was no-one in the box at all.
Yep, I think physically and technically he's as good as any an English 19 year old around atm, but he doesn't even come close to using his attributes efficiently yet. Too often he'd try and cross the ball without finding that yard of space needed to first. Not sure he has the confidence to take his man on regularly, which is a shame because when he does he normally ends up beating him.
Decision making comes with experience though. Hopefully the fans will be a lot more patient with him than they were up in Sheffield (where tbf he was poor).
by Westwood52 » 11 Nov 2013 14:07
by wingnut » 11 Nov 2013 14:14
TBMMaguireHandsome Man
He lined up the wall to take one post and should have been able to cover the other post himself. If a fantastic shot goes up-and-down into the top right corner of his goal, you just have to accept it and say well done to the scorer, but this was nothing like that - it was passed into the massive empty space he left, like a carefully taken penalty. Blaming Gunter is just scapegoating.
Yep. As mentioned earlier in the thread, I ws right in line with it and called his poor positioning before the free-kick was even taken. Weird that professionals can get it so wrong tbh.
Exactly what i said too
"this is going in, McC is hidden behind the wall - look at the gap"
by genome » 11 Nov 2013 14:52
by Tredder » 11 Nov 2013 15:06
floyd__streeteTredder Classic fans in the East Stand, especially the bloke that threw his coat off remonstrating to a few QPR fans after we'd scored, especially as he was sat with his son of about 4, but as always, good before, good after, average in between.
Were you wearing a white zip-up tracksuit top? If so, you've put w8 on m8.
^ the irony police have been alerted to this comment, tbf.
by RoyalBlue » 11 Nov 2013 15:12
wingnutTBMMaguire Yep. As mentioned earlier in the thread, I ws right in line with it and called his poor positioning before the free-kick was even taken. Weird that professionals can get it so wrong tbh.
Exactly what i said too
"this is going in, McC is hidden behind the wall - look at the gap"
Yep - said the same at the time, too. Gunter's position in the wall is to protect Alex's right side of the goal (left, facing it), not the far post - that's McC's job.
by melonhead » 11 Nov 2013 15:35
soggy biscuitmelonhead And I'm fully behind the idea of Guthrie being bad because he's being put under alit of pressure by the oppo, isn't being helped much by his fellow players and is possibly injured. I'm jot slagging him off or h8ing him. Hes clearly our most important player, and probably our POS so far.
You clearly don't understand what he is meant to be doing, and also letting things & stuff cloud your judgement at the same time. Then probably other stuff as well.
by Pepe the Horseman » 11 Nov 2013 15:37
by P!ssed Off » 11 Nov 2013 15:59
floyd__streetehandbags_harris Gunter himself did extremely well on the whole up against Hoilett but his performance wasn't exactly flawless. Take the countless throw-ins gifted straight to QPR, as well as the Johnson effort near the end which flew wide - he chose to stand fully two yards off him 10 yards out and allowed an instinctive finisher an unhindered shot on goal. Lucky ladders Mr Gunter!! Then there were the two or three occasions when he got far too close to Johnson and allowed him to spin in behind him.
^ This. Gunter is an accident waiting to happen with his poor positional play and ball watching.
by Hoop Blah » 11 Nov 2013 16:25
RoyalBlue Beg to differ. I believe the wall was lined up with completely the opposite in mind and that was why McCarthy was stood more towards his left of his goal. If it was lined up to protect his right then it was completely wrongly positioned and I don't believe any of our keepers would have got it that wrong.
by The Goat was fed » 11 Nov 2013 16:36
by Terminal Boardom » 11 Nov 2013 16:56
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