The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by Tony Le Mesmer » 27 Nov 2013 18:58

Ian Royal Can't see us doing any better than we are now under him given what a chronic shambles we were at the end of his tenure.


This will be the chronic shambles that earned him Premier League Manager of the Month, before we embarked on a cataclysmic run of 4 games? Is that what you are referring to?

The moment we look like we are not going to make the top 6, its goodbye Adkins. So probably about Christmas time then. Id sack him now because we are incredibly boring to watch. And I think he's a cock.

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by winchester_royal » 27 Nov 2013 19:00

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You may not like the PR guff he comes out with, but he puts plenty of time into the club, the community, and the fans. He's also known around his home town (Winchester) to be an absolute gent.

'I think he's a cock'...lol, what a pathetic thing to say about a man you don't come even close to knowing. Christ the internet is a sad old place sometimes.

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by LoyalRoyalFan » 27 Nov 2013 19:07

He certainly likes the fans, that's why he criticised us for not travelling up to Sheffield in our numbers to watch his side get thrashed 5-2.

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by floyd__streete » 27 Nov 2013 19:52

winchester_royal You may not like the PR guff he comes out with, but he puts plenty of time into the club, the community, and the fans. He's also known around his home town (Winchester) to be an absolute gent.

'I think he's a cock'...lol, what a pathetic thing to say about a man you don't come even close to knowing. Christ the internet is a sad old place sometimes.


Yeah, I don't like his PR guff either. Perhaps you could take up his PR for him, after all you spend so much time on here doing just that for him, you suck-up :!:

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by winchester_royal » 27 Nov 2013 19:59

I'm just sticking up for the little guy against this torrent of abuse from all you big bad bullies


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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by Ian Royal » 27 Nov 2013 22:32

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Ian Royal Can't see us doing any better than we are now under him given what a chronic shambles we were at the end of his tenure. And then of course there's his legendary good starts to the season to consider.


Chronic shambles seems a tad strong :?:

We were losing every week with an inferior side which was not given the best chance to succeed given our circumspect transfer dealings, BMc in a three-way blame there with Hammond and - ultim8ly - the owner.

You big bully :!:

Yes, we needed to spend more and better. But that doesn't change the fact that McDermott singularly failed to get the best out of pretty much anyone in the side and consistently and frequently made tactical and selectional errors throughout the season.

Yes, we were probably going down anyway. But we should have made a much much better fight of it than we did, even with the players we had.

But lets not go through this tedious argument again. Adkins is manager. He's not doing as well as we want. But you'd have to have your head up your arse to think he's doing a particularly bad job. So give him the time you say managers ought to deserve. Because no matter how much you disagree, McDermott got sacked. He's gone. He's not coming back any time soon. That is the end of it.

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by Ian Royal » 27 Nov 2013 22:35

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Ian Royal Can't see us doing any better than we are now under him given what a chronic shambles we were at the end of his tenure.


This will be the chronic shambles that earned him Premier League Manager of the Month, before we embarked on a cataclysmic run of 4 games? Is that what you are referring to?

The moment we look like we are not going to make the top 6, its goodbye Adkins. So probably about Christmas time then. Id sack him now because we are incredibly boring to watch. And I think he's a cock.

Based on a string of results against the run of play that papered over the cracks in a system and with players he abandoned at the first opportunity. With truely shambolic results and performances either side of it.


Yay! He had one decent month largely based on luck. He must have been doing a good job. :roll:

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by howser » 27 Nov 2013 23:19

I guess that whoever followed McDermott would get a fair bit of abuse from the McDermott love children, he won't be sacked, our present financial situation will guarantee that, but I would not be surprised if he goes at the end of the season. Clearly there are major issues behind the scenes in the club and the much promised cash injection appears to have fooled us all. As for the team Adkins is going to put his faith in the younger element as I guess that it will be players out come January and none in !!

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by Royal Ginger » 28 Nov 2013 00:31

One win in two months should see any manager under pressure. I'm still fully behind him, but 2 more games without a win and I can see the press turning on him and the odds on him leaving next shortening significantly.


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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by Woodcote Royal » 28 Nov 2013 02:36

Ian Royal McDermott singularly failed to get the best out of pretty much anyone in the side and consistently and frequently made tactical and selectional errors throughout the season.

Adkins is manager. He's not doing as well as we want. But you'd have to have your head up your arse to think he's doing a particularly bad job.


Some of this sh+t is truly priceless :|

How much weaker is Adkin's current squad than the one McDermott "failed to get the best out of" in the top flight :|

Yes, we haven't finished below 9th in the second tier for over a decade so, just how far up Nige's backside does anyone have to be to suggest that he's not "doing a particularly bad job" as we head for mid-table in the Championship with the kind of squad and wage bill Pardew, Coppell and McDermott could only dream about :|

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by Sanguine » 28 Nov 2013 09:54

We are 8th, 3 points off 4th, and haven't been below 9th all season. Adkins is not doing a particularly bad job.

I look forward to you disappearing again - sorry, being 'busy' again - next time we win a game.

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by Woodcote Royal » 28 Nov 2013 11:00

In which case, McDermott couldn't have been "doing a particularly bad job" to be the Premiership Manager of the month for January with a very similar squad before he was sacked February.
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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by Wycombe Royal » 28 Nov 2013 11:02

Woodcote Royal In which case, McDermott couldn't have been "doing a particulary bad job" to be the Premiership Manager of the month with a very similar squad.

One good month in amongst several very bad ones.....


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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by Woodcote Royal » 28 Nov 2013 11:06

Mc Dermott's squad was no better than what Adkins has now and how many good months has Nige had in the lower division to follow the 2 sh-t ones that got us relegated.........................just how much cr@p are Bodgekin's apologists prepared to post :|

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by Sanguine » 28 Nov 2013 11:27

Woodcote Royal In which case, McDermott couldn't have been "doing a particulary bad job" to be the Premiership Manager of the month for January with a very similar squad before he was sacked February.


Some thought he was, I know I didn't - but nor did I think he was the man to take the club forward any further. Adkins came in and couldn't keep us up, but in my opinion had us playing better football at that level than we were under Brian.

His record in the Championship isn't bad at all - only 3 defeats in 16, and not far off 4th spot isn't bad for a team that has only performed as well as many of us think it can in fits and spurts. I don't think Nigel quite has the squad he wants, and I don't think he is necessarily to blame for that but in bringing in Williams, Drenthe, Bridge, and the two loan signings he has improved the options available to him.

I think it's pretty ridiculous to look at the league table and state that you have to be 'up Nige's arse' not to think he is doing a bad job. He simply isn't. In many respects, this league is very competitive - all of the squads around us include a lot of talent (if you base things on names alone, QPR shouldn't have dropped a point yet, they have a Premier League squad). My personal opinion is that we have missed Drenthe and (based only a few cameos) Williams, who are attacking players who can make a different around the box and bring players like little lost Alfie into the game, as well as give Pog some more options once he has held the ball up for the 500th time in the match.

Fwiw I think Adkins' biggest mistake thus far is Jobi's general exclusion from the team, he is another player who imho makes a difference in attack.

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by Extended-Phenotype » 28 Nov 2013 11:40

Woodcote Royal Mc Dermott's squad was no better than what Adkins has now and how many good months has Nige had in the lower division to follow the 2 sh-t ones that got us relegated.........................just how much cr@p are Bodgekin's apologists prepared to post :|


I'd say he's had three or so average months. As he's just started his tenure and he's trying to install a new way of playing that (arguably) would fair better if and when we get promoted, I'd say he deserves to have many average months before we talk about sacking him.

If we were losing lots of games and weren't in a reasonable position in the table, maybe the mentalists would have a point. But for rational people, whether they agreed with Brian's dismissal or not, while it isn't exactly great our current form isn't much to worry about.

HTH, mentalists.

EDIT: Plus, had we been rightly awarded that penalty, we'd be in 4th. How awful.

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by Wycombe Royal » 28 Nov 2013 12:30

Woodcote Royal Mc Dermott's squad was no better than what Adkins has now and how many good months has Nige had in the lower division to follow the 2 sh-t ones that got us relegated.........................just how much cr@p are Bodgekin's apologists prepared to post :|

Unlike some narrow minded people I understand that it takes time to change a playing style that was deeply entrenched within the club. I am not expecting immediate improvements whilst this transisition happens. However if Adkins does eventually succeed in getting us to play the way he wants (assuming he is given the time) then it will make us beetter equipped to stay in the Premier League if we get back there. That was never going to happen under McD.

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by SINCE1964 » 28 Nov 2013 13:39

After 5 1/2 days working long & hard hours all I want on a Saturday is some entertainment for my £400.00 season tickets x 2.
So far i've had 45 mins against Watford and endured Sunday morning park football at Yeovil plus an expensive trip to Burnley when we were second best by a mile.
Racing on channel 4 with a glass of something that doesn't cost me four quid is looking good at the moment!.

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by Wycombe Royal » 28 Nov 2013 13:43

SINCE1964 After 5 1/2 days working long & hard hours all I want on a Saturday is some entertainment for my £400.00 season tickets x 2.
So far i've had 45 mins against Watford and endured Sunday morning park football at Yeovil plus an expensive trip to Burnley when we were second best by a mile.
Racing on channel 4 with a glass of something that doesn't cost me four quid is looking good at the moment!.

If you want guaranteed entertainment then you are spending your money on the wrong sport. You have a ticket to watch football, and that is what you are getting, whether you find it entertaining or not.

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Re: The Adkins Sack/Resignation Countdown Thread

by winchester_royal » 28 Nov 2013 13:47

SINCE1964 After 5 1/2 days working long & hard hours all I want on a Saturday is some entertainment for my £400.00 season tickets x 2.
So far i've had 45 mins against Watford and endured Sunday morning park football at Yeovil plus an expensive trip to Burnley when we were second best by a mile.
Racing on channel 4 with a glass of something that doesn't cost me four quid is looking good at the moment!.


What makes you any different to the other millions of football fans across the globe? Why should you be guaranteed exciting winning football every time you turn up to a match?

Football is cyclical. There are good times and bad times. If either of them didn't exist then sport would be totally meaningless. Highs and lows are what makes football what it is. Learn to cope with it, or stop going.

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