Brian: The right decision?

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Have the club done the right thing to sack Brian today?

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No
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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Pepe the Horseman » 03 Dec 2013 15:11

mr_number
Royalee you could argue that Rodgers is the greatest ever manager of the club given he's managed a massive club like Liverpool if you're basing achievements on one off league positions disregarding starting points like Coppell and McDermott.


Could you really?

I for one would like to see this argument.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by P!ssed Off » 03 Dec 2013 16:19

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Royalee you could argue that Rodgers is the greatest ever manager of the club given he's managed a massive club like Liverpool if you're basing achievements on one off league positions disregarding starting points like Coppell and McDermott.


Could you really?

I for one would like to see this argument.


The argument is fairly simple:
Rodgers' highest league finish: 7th in Prem
Obviously Coppell got Reading to 8th.

7th > 8th.

That's the argument, for all those desperate to see it written down.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Dulwich Royal » 03 Dec 2013 16:36

Didnt Sir Steve get Palace to 3rd in the then First Div in the early 90's ?

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by P!ssed Off » 03 Dec 2013 16:54

Dulwich Royal Didnt Sir Steve get Palace to 3rd in the then First Div in the early 90's ?


Didn't really consider pre-Reading days of managers.
I guess Coppell is therefore the most successful.

Rodgers needs a Top 2 finish to become top dog.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by mr_number » 03 Dec 2013 17:16

Don't be silly, top flight football didn't exist before the Prem.
I do, however, wholeheartedly agree that the gr8est Reading manager ever should be judged on their achievements at other clubs.


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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Barry the bird boggler » 03 Dec 2013 17:27

mr_number Don't be silly, top flight football didn't exist before the Prem.
I do, however, wholeheartedly agree that the gr8est Reading manager ever should be judged on their achievements at other clubs.



Correct, is was just a mass division of 92 clubs apparently. But luckily for us Sky turned up and and got together with the beloved PL to save the day and organise all our domestic football for us, so it'd be much better.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by sputnik » 03 Dec 2013 17:50

And of course helping it to become the wonderful value for money entertainment that it now is.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Mr Optimist » 03 Dec 2013 18:02

sputnik And of course helping it to become the wonderful value for money entertainment that it now is.


I think you will find its official name is "global brand", all bow to the almighty powerful Sky.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Avon Royal » 03 Dec 2013 23:43

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Avon Royal Sure, why not - he's probably going to need dig out his CV again pretty soon anyway.


Why? Is he being linked with a bigger job? Doing a fine job Leeds on a smaller budget to what Adkins is operating on at Reading.

Why are you so sour about our second best ever manager :?: Doesn't reflect at all well on you, y'know....


My comment was more a reflection on Leeds and their lack of managerial stability in recent years, but hey-ho.

On the subject of reflecting badly - why are you so sour about our current manager?


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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Avon Royal » 03 Dec 2013 23:47

LoyalRoyalFan I wouldn't call Avon Royal a supporter of this club anyway, more of a bore that doesn't appreciate what McDermott did for this club and is a spoilt brat.


:lol:

That told me, you're a regular Oscar Wilde.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by joeroyal » 03 Dec 2013 23:48

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LoyalRoyalFan I wouldn't call Avon Royal a supporter of this club anyway, more of a bore that doesn't appreciate what McDermott did for this club and is a spoilt brat.


:lol:

That told me, you're a regular Oscar Wilde.

Lets be honest Avon who gives a fecking Monkey about you :D :D :D :D

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by SydenhamRoyal » 03 Dec 2013 23:54

you could argue that Rodgers is the greatest ever manager of the club given he's managed a massive club like Liverpool if you're basing achievements on one off league positions disregarding starting points like Coppell and McDermott.


The argument is fairly simple:
Rodgers' highest league finish: 7th in Prem
Obviously Coppell got Reading to 8th.

7th > 8th.

That's the argument, for all those desperate to see it written down.[/quote][/quote]

DIdn't Pardew lead Newcastle to 5th?

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Avon Royal » 03 Dec 2013 23:57

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LoyalRoyalFan I wouldn't call Avon Royal a supporter of this club anyway, more of a bore that doesn't appreciate what McDermott did for this club and is a spoilt brat.


:lol:

That told me, you're a regular Oscar Wilde.

Lets be honest Avon who gives a fecking Monkey about you :D :D :D :D


Let's.


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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by joeroyal » 03 Dec 2013 23:59

SydenhamRoyal you could argue that Rodgers is the greatest ever manager of the club given he's managed a massive club like Liverpool if you're basing achievements on one off league positions disregarding starting points like Coppell and McDermott.


The argument is fairly simple:
Rodgers' highest league finish: 7th in Prem
Obviously Coppell got Reading to 8th.

7th > 8th.

That's the argument, for all those desperate to see it written down.
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DIdn't Pardew lead Newcastle to 5th?[/quote]

Coppell and The guy with no hair have gone WHY OH WHY Do you plebs live in the past

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Royalee » 04 Dec 2013 00:04

P!ssed Off The argument is fairly simple:
Rodgers' highest league finish: 7th in Prem
Obviously Coppell got Reading to 8th.

7th > 8th.

That's the argument, for all those desperate to see it written down.


Yep, pleased some of you are actually capable of reading. The argument is of course stupid, but it's the same one that you're using to say that McDermott is somehow the second best manager we've ever had which based on the likes of what Coppell, Pardew and McGhee did while at the club and Rodgers has since moving on is absolute nonsense.

Anyway, another win tonight despite a ropey performance but then again we won the league 18 months ago with a whole season of long ball boredom - double standards by many on here as usual. It'll take time for Adkins to build his team but if you pick out the better performers this season, Guthrie and Pogrebnyak were outcasts under McDermott and two other top performers in Williams and Bridge when fit were both his signings.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by MmmMonsterMunch » 04 Dec 2013 00:12

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P!ssed Off The argument is fairly simple:
Rodgers' highest league finish: 7th in Prem
Obviously Coppell got Reading to 8th.

7th > 8th.

That's the argument, for all those desperate to see it written down.


Yep, pleased some of you are actually capable of reading. The argument is of course stupid, but it's the same one that you're using to say that McDermott is somehow the second best manager we've ever had which based on the likes of what Coppell, Pardew and McGhee did while at the club and Rodgers has since moving on is absolute nonsense.

Anyway, another win tonight despite a ropey performance but then again we won the league 18 months ago with a whole season of long ball boredom - double standards by many on here as usual. It'll take time for Adkins to build his team but if you pick out the better performers this season, Guthrie and Pogrebnyak were outcasts under McDermott and two other top performers in Williams and Bridge when fit were both his signings.


Regardless of whether you like McDermott or not, he is the 2nd most successful manager we've ever had. End of discussion really. I'd actually argue his achievements almost equal that of Coppell's TBH.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Ian Royal » 04 Dec 2013 00:22

You'd have to be a total bellend to argue that what a manager does after leaving reading has any bearing on measuring their success in relation to Reading. Rodgers could go on to win every tournament he enters with Liverpool for the next 20 years and he'll still not be in our top 10 managers because his performance here was poor.

Doesn't mean he can't be successful elsewhere or a good manager. Doesn't mean he can't be the most succesful manager to have ever managed reading. But that's not the point. That's not being Reading's most successful / greatest / best manager. It's just a coincidence that he's also managed us.

It's like saying Les Ferdinand is our most successful ever player (for example). Bollocks.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by MmmMonsterMunch » 04 Dec 2013 00:25

Ian Royal You'd have to be a total bellend to argue that what a manager does after leaving reading has any bearing on measuring their success in relation to Reading. Rodgers could go on to win every tournament he enters with Liverpool for the next 20 years and he'll still not be in our top 10 managers because his performance here was poor.

Doesn't mean he can't be successful elsewhere or a good manager. Doesn't mean he can't be the most succesful manager to have ever managed reading. But that's not the point. That's not being Reading's most successful / greatest / best manager. It's just a coincidence that he's also managed us.

It's like saying Les Ferdinand is our most successful ever player (for example). Bollocks.


Quite. I really don't give a sh1t what they do before / after managing Reading. It's completely irrelevant to their performance here.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by P!ssed Off » 04 Dec 2013 00:26

Ian Royal You'd have to be a total bellend to argue that what a manager does after leaving reading has any bearing on measuring their success in relation to Reading. Rodgers could go on to win every tournament he enters with Liverpool for the next 20 years and he'll still not be in our top 10 managers because his performance here was poor.

Doesn't mean he can't be successful elsewhere or a good manager. Doesn't mean he can't be the most succesful manager to have ever managed reading. But that's not the point. That's not being Reading's most successful / greatest / best manager. It's just a coincidence that he's also managed us.

It's like saying Les Ferdinand is our most successful ever player (for example). Bollocks.


Saying Les Ferdinand is the most successful player to have played for Reading wouldn't be total bollocks though would it.
btw terrible cameo on MOTD at the weekend.

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Re: Brian: The right decision?

by MmmMonsterMunch » 04 Dec 2013 00:27

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Ian Royal You'd have to be a total bellend to argue that what a manager does after leaving reading has any bearing on measuring their success in relation to Reading. Rodgers could go on to win every tournament he enters with Liverpool for the next 20 years and he'll still not be in our top 10 managers because his performance here was poor.

Doesn't mean he can't be successful elsewhere or a good manager. Doesn't mean he can't be the most succesful manager to have ever managed reading. But that's not the point. That's not being Reading's most successful / greatest / best manager. It's just a coincidence that he's also managed us.

It's like saying Les Ferdinand is our most successful ever player (for example). Bollocks.


Saying Les Ferdinand is the most successful player to have played for Reading wouldn't be total bollocks though would it.
btw terrible cameo on MOTD at the weekend.


Yes it would. Martin Keown? :wink:

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