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Re: Buyout

by SydenhamRoyal » 23 Jan 2014 22:59

genome Do you really want the club to rush it through, just so we can try and buy some players at an overinfl8ed price? When we have some coming back from injury in those wanted positions anyway?

Considering what happened with Zingarevich I wouldn't mind if the club took a bit of time to do thorough research on these guys. If that means missing out on some players in January then so be it.

I don't think we will go up or down this season anyway, so I doubt it would make a difference in the long run whether we were active in this window or not.


well said genome

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Re: Buyout

by loyalroyaldaz » 23 Jan 2014 23:06

genome Do you really want the club to rush it through, just so we can try and buy some players at an overinfl8ed price? When we have some coming back from injury in those wanted positions anyway?

Considering what happened with Zingarevich I wouldn't mind if the club took a bit of time to do thorough research on these guys. If that means missing out on some players in January then so be it.

I don't think we will go up or down this season anyway, so I doubt it would make a difference in the long run whether we were active in this window or not.


I said nothing about buying players did i?
Not bothered either way about that, great if we do, so be it if we dont.
What i do want out of the way is the uncertainty that we currently have. I just dont think its a situation that is healthy for the Football Club and also once its done amd dusted we wont have to put up with some of the shite put on here by fools and Daves !

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Re: Buyout

by Uke » 23 Jan 2014 23:11

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genome Do you really want the club to rush it through, just so we can try and buy some players at an overinfl8ed price? When we have some coming back from injury in those wanted positions anyway?

Considering what happened with Zingarevich I wouldn't mind if the club took a bit of time to do thorough research on these guys. If that means missing out on some players in January then so be it.

I don't think we will go up or down this season anyway, so I doubt it would make a difference in the long run whether we were active in this window or not.


I said nothing about buying players did i?
Not bothered either way about that, great if we do, so be it if we dont.
What i do want out of the way is the uncertainty that we currently have. I just dont think its a situation that is healthy for the Football Club and also once its done amd dusted we wont have to put up with some of the shite put on here by fools and Daves !


It's uncertainty that we have, it doesn't mean the club lacks any certainty, purpose or direction as it progresses to new ownership.

The only thing it lacks is the funds to spunk away on some new prima donnas

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Re: Buyout

by genome » 24 Jan 2014 01:20

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genome Do you really want the club to rush it through, just so we can try and buy some players at an overinfl8ed price? When we have some coming back from injury in those wanted positions anyway?

Considering what happened with Zingarevich I wouldn't mind if the club took a bit of time to do thorough research on these guys. If that means missing out on some players in January then so be it.

I don't think we will go up or down this season anyway, so I doubt it would make a difference in the long run whether we were active in this window or not.


I said nothing about buying players did i?
Not bothered either way about that, great if we do, so be it if we dont.
What i do want out of the way is the uncertainty that we currently have. I just dont think its a situation that is healthy for the Football Club and also once its done amd dusted we wont have to put up with some of the shite put on here by fools and Daves !


Statement stands, I don't think we should rush it through just to get it over with. I think we should take measures to avoid Zingarevich 2.0.

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Re: Buyout

by jellytot » 24 Jan 2014 07:30

No rushing this takeover would be silly. Our squad is good enough for the play offs and we ARE 6th! We could still go up. Looks like we will not sign or sell anyone til it is sorted.

If we don't go up this season then is it a big deal? I say no. Get the takeover right. Be stronger next season.

That would be good innit Dave!


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Re: Buyout

by windermere_royal » 24 Jan 2014 09:28

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Re: Buyout

by Y21 » 24 Jan 2014 10:45

genome Do you really want the club to rush it through, just so we can try and buy some players at an overinfl8ed price? When we have some coming back from injury in those wanted positions anyway?

Considering what happened with Zingarevich I wouldn't mind if the club took a bit of time to do thorough research on these guys. If that means missing out on some players in January then so be it.

I don't think we will go up or down this season anyway, so I doubt it would make a difference in the long run whether we were active in this window or not.


+1

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Re: Buyout

by Extended-Phenotype » 24 Jan 2014 10:57

Rushing a takeover through and giving some kind of indication of where the club is not and either/or situation.

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Re: Buyout

by andrew1957 » 24 Jan 2014 11:06

noelgallagher The takeover was completed tonight by the Omanians. Expect the club to make an announcement at some point next week. Funds have been provided upfront to the club in advance from the investors in the same way it was when Zingarevich took over. There will be the usual checks carried out but this is now confirmed. Expect some more bids for players early next week. Quite happy to be hauled over the coals if I'm wrong but I have better things to do with my time than make up stories.


Thought you guys would like to know.


Have waited all week to say this, but the above has turned out to be another pack of lies - why make stuff like this up - does it give you vicarious pleasure?

I just want to see you have a virtual flogging and ritual hobnob beating you lying bar steward.


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Re: Buyout

by Royalwaster » 24 Jan 2014 11:19

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noelgallagher The takeover was completed tonight by the Omanians. Expect the club to make an announcement at some point next week. Funds have been provided upfront to the club in advance from the investors in the same way it was when Zingarevich took over. There will be the usual checks carried out but this is now confirmed. Expect some more bids for players early next week. Quite happy to be hauled over the coals if I'm wrong but I have better things to do with my time than make up stories.


Thought you guys would like to know.


Have waited all week to say this, but the above has turned out to be another pack of lies - why make stuff like this up - does it give you vicarious pleasure?

I just want to see you have a virtual flogging and ritual hobnob beating you lying bar steward.


+1 haul him over the coals as he asked us to!

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Re: Buyout

by Royal Lady » 24 Jan 2014 11:56

As if anyone involved with RFC is going to know what's going on unless they are on the board and even then, do you really think they are going to tell someone who isn't connected to the club, what's going on? Of course not.

SJM is well-known for talking the talk and saying what he thinks fans want to hear.

STAR reckoned a while back that they had spoken to the club and were happy with what they were told - but this was when AZ hadn't met the deadline to pay the final instalment to SJM - so they were whitewashed too.

There is bound to be speculation but if we're no nearer to an agreement with whoever has expressed an interest in buying, we'll know nothing for a while yet.

It will affect the Manager - he didn't know until recently whether he'd have any money to spend in this window - seems like he now knows he hasn't, so has to plan the rest of the season with the players he has at his disposal. SJM just wants out. He's not going to put any more money in when all he wants is to get his money out.

The players are still being paid, some of them on extortionate salaries to my mind, but that's another matter - they're still being paid, they have a job to do and they need to do it.

Until then, all we can do is support OUR team and hope that a new owner will be more interested in taking us forward and spending the money to do so. Or to tell us that they will only put x amount in and after that they expect the club to run itself or something. I'm fed up with being fed lies, half truths and bullshit, personally.

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Re: Buyout

by blythspartan » 24 Jan 2014 12:09

Royal Lady As if anyone involved with RFC is going to know what's going on unless they are on the board and even then, do you really think they are going to tell someone who isn't connected to the club, what's going on? Of course not.

SJM is well-known for talking the talk and saying what he thinks fans want to hear.

STAR reckoned a while back that they had spoken to the club and were happy with what they were told - but this was when AZ hadn't met the deadline to pay the final instalment to SJM - so they were whitewashed too.

There is bound to be speculation but if we're no nearer to an agreement with whoever has expressed an interest in buying, we'll know nothing for a while yet.

It will affect the Manager - he didn't know until recently whether he'd have any money to spend in this window - seems like he now knows he hasn't, so has to plan the rest of the season with the players he has at his disposal. SJM just wants out. He's not going to put any more money in when all he wants is to get his money out.

The players are still being paid, some of them on extortionate salaries to my mind, but that's another matter - they're still being paid, they have a job to do and they need to do it.

Until then, all we can do is support OUR team and hope that a new owner will be more interested in taking us forward and spending the money to do so. Or to tell us that they will only put x amount in and after that they expect the club to run itself or something. I'm fed up with being fed lies, half truths and bullshit, personally.



I like this post.

The only thing I don't understand about the whole takeover saga is why did we ever bid for Hobbs when we had no money.

I can't believe that it was done just to appease the fans. Maybe the takeover was close with one of the parties but it fell through.

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Re: Buyout

by UpThePrem » 24 Jan 2014 12:16

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Royal Lady As if anyone involved with RFC is going to know what's going on unless they are on the board and even then, do you really think they are going to tell someone who isn't connected to the club, what's going on? Of course not.

SJM is well-known for talking the talk and saying what he thinks fans want to hear.

STAR reckoned a while back that they had spoken to the club and were happy with what they were told - but this was when AZ hadn't met the deadline to pay the final instalment to SJM - so they were whitewashed too.

There is bound to be speculation but if we're no nearer to an agreement with whoever has expressed an interest in buying, we'll know nothing for a while yet.

It will affect the Manager - he didn't know until recently whether he'd have any money to spend in this window - seems like he now knows he hasn't, so has to plan the rest of the season with the players he has at his disposal. SJM just wants out. He's not going to put any more money in when all he wants is to get his money out.

The players are still being paid, some of them on extortionate salaries to my mind, but that's another matter - they're still being paid, they have a job to do and they need to do it.

Until then, all we can do is support OUR team and hope that a new owner will be more interested in taking us forward and spending the money to do so. Or to tell us that they will only put x amount in and after that they expect the club to run itself or something. I'm fed up with being fed lies, half truths and bullshit, personally.



I like this post.

The only thing I don't understand about the whole takeover saga is why did we ever bid for Hobbs when we had no money.

I can't believe that it was done just to appease the fans. Maybe the takeover was close with one of the parties but it fell through.


I might be wrong, but wasn't the Hobbs bid prior to any interest from the Yanks?


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Re: Buyout

by SPARTA » 24 Jan 2014 13:46

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Royal Lady As if anyone involved with RFC is going to know what's going on unless they are on the board and even then, do you really think they are going to tell someone who isn't connected to the club, what's going on? Of course not.

SJM is well-known for talking the talk and saying what he thinks fans want to hear.

STAR reckoned a while back that they had spoken to the club and were happy with what they were told - but this was when AZ hadn't met the deadline to pay the final instalment to SJM - so they were whitewashed too.

There is bound to be speculation but if we're no nearer to an agreement with whoever has expressed an interest in buying, we'll know nothing for a while yet.

It will affect the Manager - he didn't know until recently whether he'd have any money to spend in this window - seems like he now knows he hasn't, so has to plan the rest of the season with the players he has at his disposal. SJM just wants out. He's not going to put any more money in when all he wants is to get his money out.

The players are still being paid, some of them on extortionate salaries to my mind, but that's another matter - they're still being paid, they have a job to do and they need to do it.

Until then, all we can do is support OUR team and hope that a new owner will be more interested in taking us forward and spending the money to do so. Or to tell us that they will only put x amount in and after that they expect the club to run itself or something. I'm fed up with being fed lies, half truths and bullshit, personally.



I like this post.

The only thing I don't understand about the whole takeover saga is why did we ever bid for Hobbs when we had no money.

I can't believe that it was done just to appease the fans. Maybe the takeover was close with one of the parties but it fell through.


I might be wrong, but wasn't the Hobbs bid prior to any interest from the Yanks?


The US were linked with us in December.

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Re: Buyout

by Extended-Phenotype » 24 Jan 2014 13:58

Oh it was such a pantomime. The offer wasn't serious at all. It was so obviously a little act to get Forest to cough up so Hull could buy Long. Even an Eastenders fan could spot that twist a mile off.

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Re: Buyout

by Esteban » 24 Jan 2014 14:12

Maybe it's because I'm a glass half full kind of person, or maybe I'm just being terribly naive; but, the lack of transfers or news from the club makes me think that the talks are at an advanced stage. SJM said there would be funds available, but that they would be jointly funded by him and Zingarevich. If a deal seems close, then they would have already agreed a fee, based on the current financial state of the club. The value would include the current cash balance, assets (including players) and overheads, which obviously include significant player wages. Spending money now would likely come straight out of SJM's and Anton's pockets and neither are going to want that.

I'm probably way off the mark, but perhaps the heads of agreement deal is just around the corner and some transfers can still be made before the deadline.

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Re: Buyout

by Royal Lady » 24 Jan 2014 14:19

I think you would have to be deluded if you thought AZ, let alone SJM had ever planned to put money in for this transfer window. The reason there is no news, is that nothing is happening - we're not making bids for players, as we don't have the capacity to buy anyone. If the heads of agreement were close to being finalised, surely we'd already be linked with some players? Or there would be more news about actually be interested in one or two.

Fact is, one owner has done a runner, one has never made any secret of the fact he wants out and there may be one or two interested parties at this time, but nothing appears to be any further forward than it was months ago imo.

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Re: Buyout

by BR2 » 24 Jan 2014 14:25

Do people remember the days when posters regularly said that the mad man is "an astute business man"?
Since then his other business interests have cost him many,many millions of losses.
He sold half the club to a bloke who only had a deposit.
Last September he was cool about getting the rest of the money-still outstanding.
Since then there have been ongoing talks with potential buyers that are going on and on and on.

Successful business men have a skill for selling and not just buying and/or investing but this is a skill that our "astute business man" appears not to have.
There has been no significant investment in the one business that we care about and the value of that business is slipping away as, by lack of investment in players, the club has very little chance of promotion (IMHO) thereby improving the sale price considerably.

Maybe the mad man should have a word with Mike Ashley who bought and sold a share in Debenhams a few weeks ago and made a significant profit or to the guy that has been laying Man Utd's share price for many weeks and has made a fortune-these are "astute business men".

We now have contrary statements from the chairman saying that there is money to spend and now our manager says there isn't-where is the unity and joint sense of purpose that you would expect from a "well run club" such as the one often also quoted on here?

As I see it our club is an amateurish set-up that thinks it is professional which thrives on sound bites but doesn't back them up with facts.
Like a lot of others on here who have followed the club through thin and thin and just a bit of thick I have fallen out of love with our club-it started when no effort was made to stay in the Premier League (both times) and has continued through the bullshit that has emanated from both Anton and our chairman over these past two years.
Also, like a lot of others, for the first time in my life with the ridiculous cost of travel not only have I stopped going to away games but am seriously considering alternatives for Saturday afternoons.
For the first time everI don't have any great affinity with the players-I don't care too much if any are sold (other than McCarthy and Alf).
All of this is after the second biggest win that I have ever seen by our club which I think will only serve to paper over the cracks.

Oh well, rant over and probably only because of seeing good mates and Reading-based family on a Saturday will I renew next season but it is pissing down with rain again and with a week to go of the transfer window and Adkins saying today that we won't be signing anybody doesn't make today feel like a great day, just a grey day.

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Re: Buyout

by Esteban » 24 Jan 2014 14:26

Royal Lady I think you would have to be deluded if you thought AZ, let alone SJM had ever planned to put money in for this transfer window. The reason there is no news, is that nothing is happening - we're not making bids for players, as we don't have the capacity to buy anyone. If the heads of agreement were close to being finalised, surely we'd already be linked with some players? Or there would be more news about actually be interested in one or two.

Fact is, one owner has done a runner, one has never made any secret of the fact he wants out and there may be one or two interested parties at this time, but nothing appears to be any further forward than it was months ago imo.


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Re: Buyout

by Royal Lady » 24 Jan 2014 14:32

It is! I love Christmas. But I don't tell all the kids they're getting a porsche each and then not deliver.

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