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[No Fixed Abode]

It's always a big game for Chelsea fans when they get to play a big club like Liverpool.

You might join Blackburn Rovers with one Premier League title. I for one will hold my hands up and say you deserve it.

[Victor Meldrew]

It's always a big game for Chelsea fans when they get to play a big club like Liverpool.

You might join Blackburn Rovers with one Premier League title. I for one will hold my hands up and say you deserve it.

Here we go again with football only being invented when the Premier League started and then reinvented when rich Russians wanted different playthings.
Look at your history books cretin.

[No Fixed Abode]

It's always a big game for Chelsea fans when they get to play a big club like Liverpool.

You might join Blackburn Rovers with one Premier League title. I for one will hold my hands up and say you deserve it.

Here we go again with football only being invented when the Premier League started and then reinvented when rich Russians wanted different playthings.
Look at your history books cretin.

[Victor Meldrew]

John Terry probably.

Yes.

PS. Don't forget it's Fulham v Chelsea in the FA Youth Cup final tonight on ITV4.

Kes, you forgot to tell everybody the score and how it might have been a bigger defeat if Dembele hadn't taken a showboating penalty.

[stealthpapes]

FA Youth Cup beef. Awesome.

[Victor Meldrew]

FA Youth Cup beef. Awesome.

Kes spent an hour or so producing a post telling us about the game-IMHO he should have the honour of following up.
He may have just forgotten.
Perhaps you should let him speak for himself rather than assuming the role of being his supplementary spokesperson.

[No Fixed Abode]

FA Youth Cup beef. Awesome.

I know! Blinkin' eck - Meltdowndrew getting his knickers in a twist about an FA Youth Cup game and not only that, it's only half time in the tie with the 2nd leg being played next week..

[Bandini]

It's always a big game for Chelsea fans when they get to play a big club like Liverpool.

You might join Blackburn Rovers with one Premier League title. I for one will hold my hands up and say you deserve it.

Here we go again with football only being invented when the Premier League started and then reinvented when rich Russians wanted different playthings.
Look at your history books cretin.

People have always referred to different eras in football without disrespecting the preceding period. People often used to talk about post-war records for example. Now that the Premier League has been going for 20+ years, and given that the start of the Premier League broadly coincided with other significant changes, such as re-admission into Europe, the changes to the format of the European Cup/Champions League, freedom of movement/Bosman ruling and the end of the backpass, it's perfectly reasonable to use the Premier League eranas a frame of reference.

[multisync1830]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdmxV-7QvJ8

Great analysis of why Chelsea got it so right and Liverpool got it so so wrong. I would guess Rogers knew Chelsea would play the way they did but his ego told him Liverpool were better and he would take great satisfaction smashing 3 or 4 goals against them. Sadly he cocked up big time. A draw would have been enough but at half time he didn't know what to do or how to turn it round. Mouriniho knew how to play the match from start to finish and basically shoved the game right up his arse

That is why he was so bitter with all the two busses BS, he was outclassed and blinded by his ego so has potentially thrown away their best chance of winning the prem...

Yep, that was it. A manager who has received widespread praise all season for his tactical acumen and ability to tweak his team's system as required, with a pretty threadbare squad, just decided to ride his ego through the Chelsea match to try to impress his old boss.



Is it an English thing to always have to find fault in someone/something? Mourinho got it spot on, and should get credit for that. If you apply the same logic then Rodgers has 'shoved the game up the arse' of pretty much every other manager in the league this season.

Where was his plan B?
why did they come out all guns blazing as they always do each and every game if they only needed a draw
Why didn't he change the format at half time when 0-1 down
why did he not calm the players as they ran round like headless chickens

despite all the moaning in the press all the player ratings show Chelsea played well and Liverpool were poor. That was due to his tactics throughout the game. Chelsea came to frustrate and he simply had no answer...
Nope he wanted to show he was the master of the beautiful game and he came up well and truly short..

[Sanguine]

Where was his plan B?
why did they come out all guns blazing as they always do each and every game if they only needed a draw
Why didn't he change the format at half time when 0-1 down
why did he not calm the players as they ran round like headless chickens

despite all the moaning in the press all the player ratings show Chelsea played well and Liverpool were poor. That was due to his tactics throughout the game. Chelsea came to frustrate and he simply had no answer...
Nope he wanted to show he was the master of the beautiful game and he came up well and truly short..

Sometimes football teams lose games, because the opposition's tactics prove superior. As I said, this has been the case in Liverpool's favour 20-odd times this season.

Liverpool aren't the first team that Chelsea have successfully 'frustrated' and they won't be the last. That Mourinho is a 'big game' manager is hardly a secret and he can take huge credit from the result.

[MouldyRoyal]

I think it is a valid criticism of BR (as stated by several pundits) that he is unwilling to change styles of play even when it would be beneficial to do so. He did it at Reading and he has done it at Liverpool. I guess it's either admirable or stubborn depending on your existing disposition towards him.

[BR2]

I think it is a valid criticism of BR (as stated by several pundits) that he is unwilling to change styles of play even when it would be beneficial to do so. He did it at Reading and he has done it at Liverpool. I guess it's either admirable or stubborn depending on your existing disposition towards him.

The best time to judge might be in a couple of weeks' time when we find out where the respective teams finish.
If Liverpool win the league it might be fair to say that over the season Brendon generally got things right and if Chelsea only finish third then Mourinho has generally not quite got things as right as Brendon.

BTW I wonder how many of our posters will be routing for Chelsea tonight and how many for Athletico and how many buses,if any, will be parked by either side.

[TBM]

BTW I wonder how many of our posters will be routing for Chelsea tonight and how many for Athletico and how many buses,if any, will be parked by either side.

Why would any Englishman be routing for a Spanish side?

[MouldyRoyal]

I think it is a valid criticism of BR (as stated by several pundits) that he is unwilling to change styles of play even when it would be beneficial to do so. He did it at Reading and he has done it at Liverpool. I guess it's either admirable or stubborn depending on your existing disposition towards him.

The best time to judge might be in a couple of weeks' time when we find out where the respective teams finish.
If Liverpool win the league it might be fair to say that over the season Brendon generally got things right and if Chelsea only finish third then Mourinho has generally not quite got things as right as Brendon.

BTW I wonder how many of our posters will be routing for Chelsea tonight and how many for Athletico and how many buses,if any, will be parked by either side.

Even if Liverpool don't win the league I would say Brendan generally has gotten things right at Liverpool.

[Extended-Phenotype]

BTW I wonder how many of our posters will be routing for Chelsea tonight and how many for Athletico and how many buses,if any, will be parked by either side.

Why would any Englishman be routing for a Spanish side?

What's English about Chelsea? Only Lampard and Terry, neither of whom are important to the national side anymore.

Meh to both teams, couldn't care less about this game tbh.

[YateleyRoyal]

And Cole....

[Extended-Phenotype]

And Cole....

Yeah. Expired internationals R US.

[TBM]

and Cahill

[BR2]

In response to Baines' fair point about different eras there are other changes for better or for worse:-

Compulsory hugging or diving on a goalscorer
Goal celebrations in general, e.g, a baby-rocking motion, sucking a thumb and the desperate need to take a shirt off
Specialist set-piece takers (anybody should be able to take a free-kick or corner)
At least half the team having tattoos to remind themselves who they are and who is in their family
Multi-coloured boots
Hundreds of people on the bench including subs who never get a game
Wages that border on the obscene
Refs with mics who still don't take any notice of assistants
4th officials
Coaching area restrictions for over-zealous managers
Goal-line technology
Keepers wearing any colour they feel like
Crowd being told how long is left
Managers being interviewed and asked inane questions and giving inane answers, ditto players
More football onTV but we have to pay extra to watch it
Incredibly expensive to go to a game
The game is no longer a game it is a "matchday experience"

Maybe we shouldn't even go back as far as the start of the Premier League as a point of reference. Shouldn't we go back to the day that Abramovich saved Chelsea from oblivion, leading to other very rich foreign owners of our clubs, as the time when our Premier League became the richest in the world (not necessarily the best despite the propaganda from the League and Sky)with we football mad and addicted fans being just as much funders of the League (through our TV subscriptions) as those very wealthy owners?
If we pulled out it would have the same effect as owners pulling out and although people often say "enough is enough" and decide not to carry on watching or going to football there always seem to be more addicts waiting to take their places so the bubble (despite grave warnings now and again)probably will never burst.

[BR2]

BTW I wonder how many of our posters will be routing for Chelsea tonight and how many for Athletico and how many buses,if any, will be parked by either side.

Why would any Englishman be routing for a Spanish side?

Because we are talking about club sides here and not the National team of each country and fans like or dislike club teams IMHO whereas we are lumbered with our own national side because......it's our nationality.