Burnley (H) Match Thread - Sponsored by 8 man Yeovil

[genome]

Maybe should've gone for the other corner though.

[Ian Royal]

Maybe should've gone for the other corner though.

Keeper clearly anticipating that and harder to get accuracy from the way he'd have to strike the ball. You can't blame him for superb defending. He did nothing wrong.

[Ian Royal]

Maybe should've gone for the other corner though.

Keeper clearly anticipating that and harder to get accuracy from the way he'd have to strike the ball. You can't blame him for superb defending. He did nothing wrong.

Mccleary's was an easier chance if you want someone to moan at. Not that he really fluffed it. Just good keeping.

[sandman]

Personally I blame Garath McCleary for being able to score a Zidane-esque volley but not being able to finish a one on one.

[P!ssed Off]

Maybe should've gone for the other corner though.

This.
He's got 3/4 of the goal empty on one side.
Instead he goes for the corner where there are 3 Burnley players capable of stopping the ball from going in.


Edit: I also had the same opinion in real time.
A gaping goal was on view to most in the West Stand.

[P!ssed Off]

Maybe should've gone for the other corner though.

Keeper clearly anticipating that and harder to get accuracy from the way he'd have to strike the ball. You can't blame him for superb defending. He did nothing wrong.

Mccleary's was an easier chance if you want someone to moan at. Not that he really fluffed it. Just good keeping.

A 1v1 is not as easy as a 1v0.
HTH

[Ian Royal]

Keeper clearly anticipating that and harder to get accuracy from the way he'd have to strike the ball. You can't blame him for superb defending. He did nothing wrong.

Mccleary's was an easier chance if you want someone to moan at. Not that he really fluffed it. Just good keeping.

A 1v1 is not as easy as a 1v0.
HTH

You're so one eyed it's untrue. Defender & keeper to beat for Pog, with a second defender coming in for the block.

[P!ssed Off]

Mccleary's was an easier chance if you want someone to moan at. Not that he really fluffed it. Just good keeping.

A 1v1 is not as easy as a 1v0.
HTH

You're so one eyed it's untrue. Defender & keeper to beat for Pog, with a second defender coming in for the block.

Aim for the completely open side of the goal?

[genome]

Maybe should've gone for the other corner though.

Keeper clearly anticipating that and harder to get accuracy from the way he'd have to strike the ball. You can't blame him for superb defending. He did nothing wrong.

Look at the keeper's positioning, enough pace on the shot and he would've beaten Heaton in that corner.

[Ian Royal]

Maybe should've gone for the other corner though.

Keeper clearly anticipating that and harder to get accuracy from the way he'd have to strike the ball. You can't blame him for superb defending. He did nothing wrong.

Look at the keeper's positioning, enough pace on the shot and he would've beaten Heaton in that corner.

For christ sake this is petty criticism in the extreme. Look at Pog's body shape and how the ball is reaching him easier to place it back across the goal, beating the keeper and near defender. Took an awesome block to stop it. Yeah if he hit it at the open side well it would have taken an even more amazing save to stop it but it would have been harder to hit it accurately and the keeper was clearly going that way.

Either option was valid. Most days thats a goal either way. He got unlucky. Get over it.

[RoyalBlue]

Keeper clearly anticipating that and harder to get accuracy from the way he'd have to strike the ball. You can't blame him for superb defending. He did nothing wrong.

Look at the keeper's positioning, enough pace on the shot and he would've beaten Heaton in that corner.

For christ sake this is petty criticism in the extreme. Look at Pog's body shape and how the ball is reaching him easier to place it back across the goal, beating the keeper and near defender. Took an awesome block to stop it. Yeah if he hit it at the open side well it would have taken an even more amazing save to stop it but it would have been harder to hit it accurately and the keeper was clearly going that way.

Either option was valid. Most days thats a goal either way. He got unlucky. Get over it.

Spot on. Not only was it the most logical position to aim for (for the reasons IR states) but I believe that players are also coached to hit the shot across the keeper as it is much harder for the keeper to deal with? He could have hit it with more power but that would have significantly increased the risk of missing the target, given his body shape as the ball reached him - it was a very good block - memories of Wembley v Swansea?

I'm also pretty sure that McCleary lost a bit of sleep on Saturday night as that 1 on 1 kept playing back through his mind. I'm sure that he would back himself to score in that position 9 times out of 10 and would probably acknowledge that it wasn't his best effort - could well be thinking that with his pace he might have been better trying to take it past the keeper.

Have been trying to find footage of the incident when their keeper looked like he handled outside the box but cannot find it anywhere.....has anyone got a link?

I recorded the match, so I've seen it back. It was a brilliant piece of goalkeeping - he caught the ball on the line and twisted his body so the ball stayed on the line of the penalty box.

That's what Sky claimed but I'm still pretty sure that he stretched out and initially caught the ball outside his area but then twisted his body in flight so that he landed with his hands and the ball part way behind the line. Very good goalkeeping but I think he got lucky in that the lino (like Sky) looked at where he landed as opposed to considering where his hands were when they first made contact with the ball.

[kwik-silva]

Keeper clearly anticipating that and harder to get accuracy from the way he'd have to strike the ball. You can't blame him for superb defending. He did nothing wrong.

Look at the keeper's positioning, enough pace on the shot and he would've beaten Heaton in that corner.

For christ sake this is petty criticism in the extreme. Look at Pog's body shape and how the ball is reaching him easier to place it back across the goal, beating the keeper and near defender. Took an awesome block to stop it. Yeah if he hit it at the open side well it would have taken an even more amazing save to stop it but it would have been harder to hit it accurately and the keeper was clearly going that way.

Either option was valid. Most days thats a goal either way. He got unlucky. Get over it.

100%, Pog was basically falling over, and most commentators will tell you to put the ball back across the keeper anyway. It's unfortunate he wasn't in a better position - or the ball wasn't in a better position - for him to hit the other side of the net, but that defender came out of nowhere to stop it. Not Pog's fault. McCleary's one-on-one finishing is dire though, agreed his chance was far easier.

[genome]

Keeper clearly anticipating that and harder to get accuracy from the way he'd have to strike the ball. You can't blame him for superb defending. He did nothing wrong.

Look at the keeper's positioning, enough pace on the shot and he would've beaten Heaton in that corner.

For christ sake this is petty criticism in the extreme. Look at Pog's body shape and how the ball is reaching him easier to place it back across the goal, beating the keeper and near defender. Took an awesome block to stop it. Yeah if he hit it at the open side well it would have taken an even more amazing save to stop it but it would have been harder to hit it accurately and the keeper was clearly going that way.

Either option was valid. Most days thats a goal either way. He got unlucky. Get over it.

Why are you so militant about everything Ian? I am not blaming Pog for superb defending. I was merely observing that if he had managed to hit it in the other corner then it stood more chance of going in. I'm only really going on my memory of the situation. Did he have enough time to take a touch and steady himself for a more powerful shot?

[bcubed]

Have been trying to find footage of the incident when their keeper looked like he handled outside the box but cannot find it anywhere.....has anyone got a link?

I recorded the match, so I've seen it back. It was a brilliant piece of goalkeeping - he caught the ball on the line and twisted his body so the ball stayed on the line of the penalty box.

That's what Sky claimed but I'm still pretty sure that he stretched out and initially caught the ball outside his area but then twisted his body in flight so that he landed with his hands and the ball part way behind the line. Very good goalkeeping but I think he got lucky in that the lino (like Sky) looked at where he landed as opposed to considering where his hands were when they first made contact with the ball.

Agreed
Watching it live i thought it was outside and the Sky coverage proved nothing as they had no camera directly in line
one of several decisions that didnt go our way on the day

[Ian Royal]

Look at the keeper's positioning, enough pace on the shot and he would've beaten Heaton in that corner.

For christ sake this is petty criticism in the extreme. Look at Pog's body shape and how the ball is reaching him easier to place it back across the goal, beating the keeper and near defender. Took an awesome block to stop it. Yeah if he hit it at the open side well it would have taken an even more amazing save to stop it but it would have been harder to hit it accurately and the keeper was clearly going that way.

Either option was valid. Most days thats a goal either way. He got unlucky. Get over it.

Why are you so militant about everything Ian? I am not blaming Pog for superb defending. I was merely observing that if he had managed to hit it in the other corner then it stood more chance of going in. I'm only really going on my memory of the situation. Did he have enough time to take a touch and steady himself for a more powerful shot?

No.

[strap]

With all due respect gentlemen, all this talk of cocking up v Burnley is nonsense. We missed out on a play-off spot because we didn't have the brains or skill to score twice against the team finishing bottom of the league and reduced to 8 (EIGHT!) men.

At the start of the season we would have been more than satisfied to fight-back to take a point off the team finishing a good second in the league.

It's gone, move on. We have far more pressing hurdles to navigate during this close season. With the injuries and form we have been displaying this season, does anyone seriously think we had a chance against a resurgent Derby over 2 legs?

[bcubed]

With all due respect gentlemen, all this talk of cocking up v Burnley is nonsense. We missed out on a play-off spot because we didn't have the brains or skill to score twice against the team finishing bottom of the league and reduced to 8 (EIGHT!) men.

At the start of the season we would have been more than satisfied to fight-back to take a point off the team finishing a good second in the league.

It's gone, move on. We have far more pressing hurdles to navigate during this close season. With the injuries and form we have been displaying this season, does anyone seriously think we had a chance against a resurgent Derby over 2 legs?

Don't disagree with the point about previous poor games

But to answer your question- Actually yes
We played that well I think we could have taken on Derby
Who knows?

But the frustration exists because we saved our best performance for the last game and were just a fraction away from winning