The truth about Royston...

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Re: The truth about Royston...

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by ZacNaloen » 03 Jul 2014 21:39



It's also the difference between a 19/20 year old and a 27 year old, even if I hadn't put any fat on I still wouldn't be a slim as I was at 21.

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by handbags_harris » 03 Jul 2014 21:50

Indubitably, my friend, indubitably.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by ZacNaloen » 03 Jul 2014 23:15

At least that is what I tell my self :lol:

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by McClearyChops » 14 Jul 2014 11:07

Drenthe has not been allocated a shirt number


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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Gordons Cumming » 14 Jul 2014 11:58

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Based on?


The potential he showed when at Feyenoord in 06/07 when he was arguably their best player that season, certainly their equivalent of our Jordan Obita this year (along with Georginho Wijnaldum), then the Dutch U21 player that was a first choice full back in the 2007 U21 European Chhampionship winning side, and the ability to seal a multi-million euro move to Real Madrid. He may not have been up to their standard, ultimately we'll never know if he really was because he p*ssed his opportunity up the wall there.

Care for more detail? Ok, I saw this man play for Feyenoord the day after our 3-1 win at Bolton in April 2007. Ok, it was only one game, but he was the standout player for me at left back in a team that included Wijnaldum, Vlaar, De Guzman and Van Hooijdonk. I watched the same man on the tellybox in the Dutch U21's that same year, he was the standout player again. Sadly, you can have all the ability in the world but if you don't apply yourself and allow the hype to go to your head then you'll never make it at elite level. He clearly has ability mate. He just doesn't have the attitude or application to complement it.


One day he'll regret his wasteful attitude.

Quite sad really..............sort of.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Royal Biscuitman » 14 Jul 2014 12:08

Gordons Cumming One day he'll regret his wasteful attitude.

Quite sad really..............sort of.
No, I imagine he will blame everyone else.... however, unlike our last big unfulfilled talent, James Lambert, He's at least picked up decent money along the way so that will keep him in the party lifestyle a little longer.

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by Uke » 14 Jul 2014 12:10

Gordons Cumming One day he'll regret his wasteful attitude.

Quite sad really..............sort of.


While counting all his signing on fees and salary cheques for doing sweet FA?

It's like the "Mr Best, where did it all go wrong?" story

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by leww_rfc » 03 Aug 2014 21:52

So what's the deal?

If we don't find a buyer for Royston, surely we give him a shirt number?

Had fans round his house today for a FIFA tournament by the looks, good lad.


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Re: The truth about Royston...

by kwik-silva » 03 Aug 2014 21:55

This is the problem I have with completely shunning him, when we don't find a buyer we're stuck with a player we effectively can't use down to the way we treated him. Seems ridiculous, unless they have a buyer lined up. Which they don't.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Royal Ginger » 03 Aug 2014 22:02

We don't know what he's like. If some of rumours are true and he's missing training, drinking before games and having bust-ups with players and management i think it's fair enough. His presence may be toxic and more detrimental to the squad then being a bit thin on the ground.

Most of us will have worked in a team with a bad egg (if you haven't it's probably you) and will know how disruptive and adversely productive it can be.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by leww_rfc » 03 Aug 2014 22:05

Royal Ginger We don't know what he's like. If some of rumours are true and he's missing training, drinking before games and having bust-ups with players and management i think it's fair enough. His presence may be toxic and more detrimental to the squad then being a bit thin on the ground.

Most of us will have worked in a team with a bad egg (if you haven't it's probably you) and will know how disruptive and adversely productive it can be.



If that's the case then maybe they're waiting to see if they find a buyer, and if not then they'll cancel his contract and regard one of the above mentioned problems as 'breach of contract' ?

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Royal Ginger » 03 Aug 2014 22:22

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Royal Ginger We don't know what he's like. If some of rumours are true and he's missing training, drinking before games and having bust-ups with players and management i think it's fair enough. His presence may be toxic and more detrimental to the squad then being a bit thin on the ground.

Most of us will have worked in a team with a bad egg (if you haven't it's probably you) and will know how disruptive and adversely productive it can be.



If that's the case then maybe they're waiting to see if they find a buyer, and if not then they'll cancel his contract and regard one of the above mentioned problems as 'breach of contract' ?


If it's all true (and that's a big if) i'd certainly be on to HR about getting rid.


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Re: The truth about Royston...

by mambo3 » 03 Aug 2014 22:53

There is an On-going tread

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by From Despair To Where? » 04 Aug 2014 07:46

Did Le Fondre disagree with McDermott as well, because he didn't get many starts with him either.

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by sandman » 04 Aug 2014 08:11

From Despair To Where? Did Le Fondre disagree with McDermott as well, because he didn't get many starts with him either.


Difference is that he could see that it worked under Brian but last season we were struggling to keep up with the play off chase and he still wasn't getting starts.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by From Despair To Where? » 04 Aug 2014 08:54

He wasn't getting starts because because his overall game didn't warrant it and he was always most effective coming off the bench, it's the same argument that was had about Le Fondre since about 3 months after he joined us, which is a different argument to the one being had about Drenthe, who has flattered to deceive and is, by all accounts, a disruptive influence.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by soggy biscuit » 04 Aug 2014 09:07

Someone with some good contacts at RFC who has no reason to lie recently told me what contract he understands Drenthe to be on. I was pretty staggered. it was an eye watering amount for a club like us to pay.

that is all.

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by leww_rfc » 04 Aug 2014 09:13

Enlighten us?

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Re: The truth about Royston...

by Royal Lady » 04 Aug 2014 09:32

They could have ended his contract earlier than this if they'd wanted to. There have always been "problem" players - sometimes, they just need a little guidance from their manager, someone to watch over them and ensure they don't get into trouble outside of the game. We failed to do that with Royston and with a bit of nurturing and care, he may have turned out to be the player for us that we all hoped for, and needed. I don't get these managers who freeze players out just because they dared to question them or whatever. Mind, the writing was on the wall when I got my R R Drenthe shirt - every time I decided to get a shirt with a player's name on, they leave. I'm getting a Swansea shirt with Sigurdsson on the back this season :wink:

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