Summer 2014 Transfer Window

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by CholseyRoyal » 06 Aug 2014 19:54

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paddy20 After this whole painful saga of the takeover we now seem to be in a total anti climax situation based on the sort of players we are looking to sign. Two Notts F cast offs and a CH who has to try and re-prove himself. Cant see us going for Murray as he is too similar to the Pog and Palace would want around £4m for a 31 year old still recovering from injury. I know its early days but there doesn't seem to be much ambition at the moment. Are they signing these players to help keep us in the champ. and hoping the under 21's will come good in 2/3 years? I think we will just have to hope we are good enough this year to avoid a downward spiral.


Who should we have gone for then?

Who would be climatic, yet still within budget?


Well the Thais are taking a gamble anyway as the sale has not been approved yet. Did you not see Samrits warning on FB which someone tweeted as he was setting off from Bangkok this morning? His legal team are still working on the Takover and it is having to be done very carefully because of the Coup d'Etat in Thailand making things very difficult.

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Re: 4-5 players lined up

by Ian Royal » 06 Aug 2014 21:12

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leww_rfc Player of the season Obita seems to have come on leaps and bounds playing in that position, I see no reason to change that at the moment. Plus Cummings and Kelly can both play there, providing adequate cover.

Ok. I just think Kelly was terrible there, Cummings mediocre at best (there) and I'm not sure relying on Obita without the assistance of Jobi will work.

Be interesting to see Obita gets on without captain fantastic ahead of him actually.
not since his first season with us....put in many heralded shift when we got promoted.

Plenty of decent performances (and potential) to be tapped into still

Not mediocre on the right, but that's not what I was talking about, was it.

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Re: 4-5 players lined up

by Ian Royal » 06 Aug 2014 21:13

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leww_rfc Player of the season Obita seems to have come on leaps and bounds playing in that position, I see no reason to change that at the moment. Plus Cummings and Kelly can both play there, providing adequate cover.

Ok. I just think Kelly was terrible there, Cummings mediocre at best (there) and I'm not sure relying on Obita without the assistance of Jobi will work.

Be interesting to see Obita gets on without captain fantastic ahead of him actually.


I think you're falling foul of the assumption that since Jobi wasn't quick, he must have been providing some form of defensive work. Obita would do fine with any of our wingers in front of him.

No I'm basing it on being capable of seeing all the defensive work he put in.

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by fedders1871 » 06 Aug 2014 21:17

by giving obita number 11 it would suggest he's being put up on the wing, surely if he was first choice LB he'd be given number 3

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by Ian Royal » 06 Aug 2014 21:18

fedders1871 by giving obita number 11 it would suggest he's being put up on the wing, surely if he was first choice LB he'd be given number 3

We can't play him on the left wing, if we don't have a left back to take over.


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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by SPARTA » 07 Aug 2014 16:35

So Cox is in, Mackie is happening according to CW, Ferdinand looks nailed on, and confirmed interest in Dean Hammond, and CW says it's going to be a bust few weeks. We could see 5-6 coming in I reckon. Happy days!

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by Royal Ginger » 07 Aug 2014 17:06

We signed Cox. Take that Exeter!

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by winchester_royal » 07 Aug 2014 17:16

paddy20 After this whole painful saga of the takeover we now seem to be in a total anti climax situation based on the sort of players we are looking to sign. Two Notts F cast offs and a CH who has to try and re-prove himself. Cant see us going for Murray as he is too similar to the Pog and Palace would want around £4m for a 31 year old still recovering from injury. I know its early days but there doesn't seem to be much ambition at the moment. Are they signing these players to help keep us in the champ. and hoping the under 21's will come good in 2/3 years? I think we will just have to hope we are good enough this year to avoid a downward spiral.


I can't help but feel you're being a little short sighted here.

We're never going to be going out and spending £5m on a young promising player that will get everyone excited. Why? Because we have a fantastic academy that contains a number of prospects just as exciting as those going for big money.

What we need is experienced pros with a solid attitude that will come in and contribute straight away. We have a very young, talented squad that needs a bit of guidance over the next couple of years. Players like Mackie, Cox, and Hammond will provide that. They've also all proven themselves to be very adept players at this level. They're also well known to Adkins and his team so we know what we're going to get. Rather that than another Drenthe fiasco.

Forest can go out and spunk £5m on players like Assombalonga as much as they want. It's ridiculous money and we're quite rightly not getting involved in that market.

I imagine more of these types of signings over the years, as we look to bring through academy players and supplement with experienced pros willing to lend their expertise. It's the right way to go.

LOL at 'ambition' btw. If we'd signed Mackie at this time last year everyone would be cock-a-hoop. He's had an average season for Forest but this was a guy who shone for QPR in the prem. Cox scored 6 more goals in his last season in L1 than Britt did last season. Hammond played a decent role in a Leicester side that steamrolled the Championship last season. And Ferdinand was a £8m player not long ago. These are good players who are at a good age and are decent value. This is the very definition of the Reading way. Long may it continue.

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by tee peg » 07 Aug 2014 17:24

Well said that man.


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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by Struggle Pig » 07 Aug 2014 19:12

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paddy20 After this whole painful saga of the takeover we now seem to be in a total anti climax situation based on the sort of players we are looking to sign. Two Notts F cast offs and a CH who has to try and re-prove himself. Cant see us going for Murray as he is too similar to the Pog and Palace would want around £4m for a 31 year old still recovering from injury. I know its early days but there doesn't seem to be much ambition at the moment. Are they signing these players to help keep us in the champ. and hoping the under 21's will come good in 2/3 years? I think we will just have to hope we are good enough this year to avoid a downward spiral.


I can't help but feel you're being a little short sighted here.

We're never going to be going out and spending £5m on a young promising player that will get everyone excited. Why? Because we have a fantastic academy that contains a number of prospects just as exciting as those going for big money.

What we need is experienced pros with a solid attitude that will come in and contribute straight away. We have a very young, talented squad that needs a bit of guidance over the next couple of years. Players like Mackie, Cox, and Hammond will provide that. They've also all proven themselves to be very adept players at this level. They're also well known to Adkins and his team so we know what we're going to get. Rather that than another Drenthe fiasco.

Forest can go out and spunk £5m on players like Assombalonga as much as they want. It's ridiculous money and we're quite rightly not getting involved in that market.

I imagine more of these types of signings over the years, as we look to bring through academy players and supplement with experienced pros willing to lend their expertise. It's the right way to go.

LOL at 'ambition' btw. If we'd signed Mackie at this time last year everyone would be cock-a-hoop. He's had an average season for Forest but this was a guy who shone for QPR in the prem. Cox scored 6 more goals in his last season in L1 than Britt did last season. Hammond played a decent role in a Leicester side that steamrolled the Championship last season. And Ferdinand was a £8m player not long ago. These are good players who are at a good age and are decent value. This is the very definition of the Reading way. Long may it continue.


Big +1. Well said.

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by Victor Meldrew » 07 Aug 2014 19:37

Just as an aside Peterborough were called crazy for spending £1 million on a Watford reserve-one year later they have the last laugh coining a profit of £4 million.
There are players around at the lower levels but it needs decent scouts for these players to be noticed and Peterborough have done brilliantly in this area-should we not be looking to sign whoever they have doing that job (unless of course it is Barry Fry)?

Winch makes his usual overhyped spin on the players that we are bringing in-not good enough for Forest who finished below us last season plus a player who turned out just three times in Turkey for the side that finished 2nd bottom.
As somebody rightly pointed out other clubs' cast-offs are other teams' new signings in many instances but not usually from clubs that are below us.

Hopefully this patching-up of our squad (it's hardly building for the Premier League) will lead to a successful season but I think it also shows that Adkins will follow a similar selection policy as last season by generally not selecting young players unless he really has to when emergencies occur.

BTW just checked to establish the significant role that, according to Winch, Hammond played last year for Leicester-he started just 7 League games.
He has played for 7 clubs and has only warranted a fee once.
Now aged 31 don't expect dynamism from a player who has always been slow (slower than Ledge) and can't get any quicker.
If it were a loan deal to cover injuries fine but hopefully not a longer deal.
Incidentally when betting on bookings it was handy for Hammond to be playing which is not a great recommendation for a new signing.

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by Simon's Church » 07 Aug 2014 20:30

These are just the guys who were available quickly to help improve the squad and give us more depth.

The bigger names like clayton, adam forshaw and declan john were always gonna take a but longer to wrap up.

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by Wycombe Royal » 07 Aug 2014 20:54

Victor Meldrew Just as an aside Peterborough were called crazy for spending £1 million on a Watford reserve-one year later they have the last laugh coining a profit of £4m

Not quite, they've had to hand over a shade over £2m to Watford due to the sell on clause.

So Watford have received over £3m for a player who barely played for them. That is better than anything Hammond has ever done for us.


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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by Ian Royal » 07 Aug 2014 21:02

Victor Meldrew Just as an aside Peterborough were called crazy for spending £1 million on a Watford reserve-one year later they have the last laugh coining a profit of £4 million.
There are players around at the lower levels but it needs decent scouts for these players to be noticed and Peterborough have done brilliantly in this area-should we not be looking to sign whoever they have doing that job (unless of course it is Barry Fry)?

Winch makes his usual overhyped spin on the players that we are bringing in-not good enough for Forest who finished below us last season plus a player who turned out just three times in Turkey for the side that finished 2nd bottom.
As somebody rightly pointed out other clubs' cast-offs are other teams' new signings in many instances but not usually from clubs that are below us.

Hopefully this patching-up of our squad (it's hardly building for the Premier League) will lead to a successful season but I think it also shows that Adkins will follow a similar selection policy as last season by generally not selecting young players unless he really has to when emergencies occur.

BTW just checked to establish the significant role that, according to Winch, Hammond played last year for Leicester-he started just 7 League games.
He has played for 7 clubs and has only warranted a fee once.
Now aged 31 don't expect dynamism from a player who has always been slow (slower than Ledge) and can't get any quicker.
If it were a loan deal to cover injuries fine but hopefully not a longer deal.
Incidentally when betting on bookings it was handy for Hammond to be playing which is not a great recommendation for a new signing.


We're not in a position to build for the Premier League - for next season anyway. We're rebuilding a Championship squad that will be able to push toward the Premier League. Your expectations appear to be unreasonable.

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by Victor Meldrew » 07 Aug 2014 21:53

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Victor Meldrew Just as an aside Peterborough were called crazy for spending £1 million on a Watford reserve-one year later they have the last laugh coining a profit of £4m

Not quite, they've had to hand over a shade over £2m to Watford due to the sell on clause.

So Watford have received over £3m for a player who barely played for them. That is better than anything Hammond has ever done for us.


So Watford AND Peterborough are happy.
Have we managed to sign the new Brett Williams yet?

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by Victor Meldrew » 07 Aug 2014 21:56

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Victor Meldrew Just as an aside Peterborough were called crazy for spending £1 million on a Watford reserve-one year later they have the last laugh coining a profit of £4 million.
There are players around at the lower levels but it needs decent scouts for these players to be noticed and Peterborough have done brilliantly in this area-should we not be looking to sign whoever they have doing that job (unless of course it is Barry Fry)?

Winch makes his usual overhyped spin on the players that we are bringing in-not good enough for Forest who finished below us last season plus a player who turned out just three times in Turkey for the side that finished 2nd bottom.
As somebody rightly pointed out other clubs' cast-offs are other teams' new signings in many instances but not usually from clubs that are below us.

Hopefully this patching-up of our squad (it's hardly building for the Premier League) will lead to a successful season but I think it also shows that Adkins will follow a similar selection policy as last season by generally not selecting young players unless he really has to when emergencies occur.

BTW just checked to establish the significant role that, according to Winch, Hammond played last year for Leicester-he started just 7 League games.
He has played for 7 clubs and has only warranted a fee once.
Now aged 31 don't expect dynamism from a player who has always been slow (slower than Ledge) and can't get any quicker.
If it were a loan deal to cover injuries fine but hopefully not a longer deal.
Incidentally when betting on bookings it was handy for Hammond to be playing which is not a great recommendation for a new signing.


We're not in a position to build for the Premier League - for next season anyway. We're rebuilding a Championship squad that will be able to push toward the Premier League. Your expectations appear to be unreasonable.


Having listened each year for so many years from the club that we are ambitious and aiming for the top perhaps I have picked the wrong year to start believing them. :wink:

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by Rea Ding » 08 Aug 2014 03:14

Royal Ginger We signed Cox. Take that Exeter!

First thing that went through my head when i found out the signing was confirmed :D

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by Hendo » 08 Aug 2014 10:56

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Victor Meldrew Just as an aside Peterborough were called crazy for spending £1 million on a Watford reserve-one year later they have the last laugh coining a profit of £4m

Not quite, they've had to hand over a shade over £2m to Watford due to the sell on clause.

So Watford have received over £3m for a player who barely played for them. That is better than anything Hammond has ever done for us.


Nope, getting £500k for Andy Hughes is and always will be the best bit of business. it might not be the same monetary value as that Watford deal but the audacity to even ask for that amount for Hughes was ludicrous, let alone Norwich to actually pay it!

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by Wycombe Royal » 08 Aug 2014 10:57

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Victor Meldrew Just as an aside Peterborough were called crazy for spending £1 million on a Watford reserve-one year later they have the last laugh coining a profit of £4m

Not quite, they've had to hand over a shade over £2m to Watford due to the sell on clause.

So Watford have received over £3m for a player who barely played for them. That is better than anything Hammond has ever done for us.


Nope, getting £500k for Andy Hughes is and always will be the best bit of business. it might not be the same monetary value as that Watford deal but the audacity to even ask for that amount for Hughes was ludicrous, let alone Norwich to actually pay it!

:lol:

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Re: Summer 2014 Transfer Window

by JordCot » 08 Aug 2014 11:35

Seems based on the rumours that our transfer policy this summer is just trying to bulk out what is a small and young squad with some decent if unspectacular, experienced players. That is fine and if it gets us in a decent position by January to then look to bring in some real quality long-term in key positions the im happy

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