Adkins - Pros and Cons

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Pepe the Horseman » 24 Oct 2014 14:11

I've missed this

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Maguire » 24 Oct 2014 14:12

Pepe the Horseman I've missed this


I was hoping he'd got over it tbh.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Extended-Phenotype » 24 Oct 2014 14:14

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Maguire I was merely addressing the assertion that we have a very inexperienced squad. We don't.

The addition of Akpan as an international was a little light humour on my part.


1) Not sure the point being made was that we lack experience on the injury list but if you think its worth pointing out, go for it
2) Hee hee


Thank you for what was, as ever, a spellbinding contribution on your part.


No problemo. It was no "shut up, loads of players that aren't playing are experienced" but one day maybe I can reach those dizzy heights of salience.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Extended-Phenotype » 24 Oct 2014 14:18

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Pepe the Horseman I've missed this


I was hoping he'd got over it tbh.


:?:

Mate, there is no beef from me, it's you who is taking your shirt off - I said I understood your point but thought half your list wasn't particularly relevant. Wasn't trying to be spell-binding, either. Just thought it was worth pointing out.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Maguire » 24 Oct 2014 14:28

The o/p (andrew someone or other) addressed the topic of injuries in an entirely separate point. I helpfully clipped this out of my quote to make it clear which of his points I was replying to.

I doubt anybody will contest the injury list, but 11 (or so) of the players I mentioned have had game time this season - it's just a myth that we sold off all our experience and are left with a squad full of under 21s.


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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by HoneyRoastHoax » 24 Oct 2014 14:59

Maguire The o/p (andrew someone or other) addressed the topic of injuries in an entirely separate point. I helpfully clipped this out of my quote to make it clear which of his points I was replying to.

I doubt anybody will contest the injury list, but 11 (or so) of the players I mentioned have had game time this season - it's just a myth that we sold off all our experience and are left with a squad full of under 21s.


We have sold our most valuable and arguably best performing players and have done for many years with little investment to back it up.

This is what happens.

I can understand people instantly leaping to sack the manager, this has been happening for a long time. We were lucky with the bargains that were Doyle, Kitson, Long, Alf and fortunate to produce someone like the Sig.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Hoop Blah » 24 Oct 2014 15:15

I think it's still fair to say that the 'squad' Adkins has had to select from is pretty inexperienced (and basically shit!) in certain areas and the lack of strength/experience in depth is seriously hampering things.

Our first choice back four contains two players who've played about 40 Championship games in defence between them. Beyond those two we have no cover or competition. That's where we're lacking.

In the middle of the park we're relying on players, Norwood aside, with very limited experience and it just makes us far too easy to bully and breakdown. Our two best midfielders who've been available are Norwood (who looks very tidy) and Akpan who, depsite his size and stature, is powderpuff, scared of a tackle and isn't naturally comfortable shielding the back four. It's a shame we've not seen more of Kuhl though, but him and Norwood together is just too lightweight isn't it?

It's Adkins responsibilty to address those weaknesses though.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Ian Royal » 24 Oct 2014 17:00

Hoop Blah I think it's still fair to say that the 'squad' Adkins has had to select from is pretty inexperienced (and basically shit!) in certain areas and the lack of strength/experience in depth is seriously hampering things.

Our first choice back four contains two players who've played about 40 Championship games in defence between them. Beyond those two we have no cover or competition. That's where we're lacking.

In the middle of the park we're relying on players, Norwood aside, with very limited experience and it just makes us far too easy to bully and breakdown. Our two best midfielders who've been available are Norwood (who looks very tidy) and Akpan who, depsite his size and stature, is powderpuff, scared of a tackle and isn't naturally comfortable shielding the back four. It's a shame we've not seen more of Kuhl though, but him and Norwood together is just too lightweight isn't it?

It's Adkins responsibilty to address those weaknesses though.

This.

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Re: We as fans NEED to back Adkins

by RoyallyFcuked » 30 Oct 2014 18:31

sandman If you think it's ott then that's your prerogative but the evidence so far in comparison with the rest of his managerial career suggests it's not far fetched at all. Some people and their methods work at certain clubs but not others and that is what we are seeing here.


I just think its too early to be saying that. As others have said, we've had all sorts of problems since Adkins has been here. We havent even got a fully fit squad yet. When our team is at full strength for a while at least, thats when we can make a fairer judgement on Adkins at RFC.


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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Zana Badawi » 31 Oct 2014 12:18

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It's Adkins responsibilty to address those weaknesses though.

This.


Its also Adkins' job to stop them happening in the first place.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Ian Royal » 31 Oct 2014 18:00

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It's Adkins responsibilty to address those weaknesses though.

This.


Its also Adkins' job to stop them happening in the first place.

Yeah, well. There's a lot of point in trying that now isn't there. And he's hardly totally in control of injuries and he's got oxf*rd all control of when he's got money.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Royal Rother » 01 Nov 2014 12:36

Coppell's sessions had no tackling - not sure how they learned to tackle but that's what Kevin Dillon said.

(As a result?) Team 106 had a remarkably injury-free season.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Ian Royal » 01 Nov 2014 13:10

Royal Rother Coppell's sessions had no tackling - not sure how they learned to tackle but that's what Kevin Dillon said.

(As a result?) Team 106 had a remarkably injury-free season.

That's why I said 'totally'. We did get injuries in that season, just not many and fairly spread out. Shorey, was out for a few weeks, Sidwell was out briefly, Lita broke his leg, Little was out for a while.

And plenty of our injuries this season & from last season, occurred during games not training. And not tackling in training is not going to help much with that.

Tackling's overrated as Harper showed anyway. Keep the ball and when you don't have it force an error. Tackling is a last resort.


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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by P!ssed Off » 01 Nov 2014 14:11

Lita broke his ankle, not leg.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Lacoste » 01 Nov 2014 14:15

Ian couldn't tell from the comfort of his radio

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Ian Royal » 01 Nov 2014 14:31

P!ssed Off Lita broke his ankle, not leg.

Thank you, that really makes a difference.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by P!ssed Off » 01 Nov 2014 14:39

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P!ssed Off Lita broke his ankle, not leg.

Thank you, that really makes a difference.


Yes, they are significantly different injuries, I agree.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Man Friday » 01 Nov 2014 16:45

Pros....

Cons...feckin useless.

Time for a change.

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by Winston Smith » 01 Nov 2014 19:02

Has he gone yet?

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Re: Adkins - Pros and Cons

by ManchesterRoyals » 01 Nov 2014 19:03

Anyone know what he said after the game today?

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