Should we sign Murray permanently?

Do you want Glenn Murray to sign permanently?

Yes, I believe he's performed well enough to sign.
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No, there's better players available to sign.
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I'm not fussed either way.
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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by blueroyals » 02 Jan 2015 16:31

Derby close to signing Darren Bent on loan. Perhaps they're not interested in Murray after all?

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by Ian Royal » 02 Jan 2015 16:37

£3m is a lot, it depends how it's structured and who else is available. £1m - £1.5m is about right. I can't see us paying as much as £3m - it'd break our transfer record! Nor having agreed that price in the summer.

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by Nameless » 02 Jan 2015 16:44

If 3million was 1 million now, 500k in 18 months if he plays 75% of games and 500k in 30 months on same basis then 1 million if we get promoted during his contract then probably ok. Assuming 2 1/2 year deal....

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by Royal_jimmy » 02 Jan 2015 19:51

This is a very interesting question.

If we did not have the issue with the FFP then I would say this it is a no brainer to sign Murray. 8 goals in 18 is pretty good and I cant see there being many strikers at this level being able to match Murray's record.

Realistically we cannot afford to sign him though. Unless we can re-loan him for the rest of the season then I cannot see him being in a Reading shirt again. With the £1m or so we may have I think we should go for a striker like Eoin Doyle of Chesterfield who could be the real deal in our league and is much younger than Murray.

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by Nameless » 02 Jan 2015 20:49

But if we agreed a deal at the start of the loan then clearly we CAN afford to buy him.

The issues are

1. Does Clarke rate him
2. Does Clarke want to use the money in other ways
3. Does Murray want to move
4. Does the change in management at Palace mean Murray may have a future there
5. Is anyone else interested

The move won't founder on the cost agreed at the start of the loan


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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by Wycombe Royal » 02 Jan 2015 21:14

Nameless But if we agreed a deal at the start of the loan then clearly we CAN afford to buy him.

The issues are

1. Does Clarke rate him
2. Does Clarke want to use the money in other ways
3. Does Murray want to move
4. Does the change in management at Palace mean Murray may have a future there
5. Is anyone else interested

The move won't founder on the cost agreed at the start of the loan

Not necessarily as we've paid off a manager and back room staff since then......

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by Ian Royal » 03 Jan 2015 01:30

Well Palace are hardly going to accept less than the amount agreed with no strikers, especially when his loan was a success. So it seems safe to assume that because we've said we're still interested we have the fee. It's surely personal terms and whether Murray has any better options that will decide it.

Unless we're trying to offset fee with Pog.

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by Snowball » 03 Jan 2015 09:56

http://hltco.org/2015/01/03/murrays-fut ... llion-bid/?

Definitely think £3 Million is too much.

I rate him but he's older, has to be fading, always the extra injury-risk etc.

If we have 3M we can get a rising star on lower wages and maybe have change!

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by UpNorth » 03 Jan 2015 12:11

Doyle at Chesterfield probably falls into the category of 'rising star' but his price has gone up to £2m following interest from several clubs.

So, finding someone good on the cheap as we have in the past will not be easy.


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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by Snowball » 03 Jan 2015 12:19

UpNorth Doyle at Chesterfield probably falls into the category of 'rising star' but his price has gone up to £2m following interest from several clubs.

So, finding someone good on the cheap as we have in the past will not be easy.


2M is less than 3M and his wages would be lower, guessing 10-15K a week less

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by RoyalBlue » 03 Jan 2015 13:16

Same old 'Reading Way' again.

According to Hammond in the summer we had agreed a fee with Palace for which they would release Murray if we wanted him. So presumably that fee was the £3M now being talked about. However, typically of Reading it would appear that we are now considering going back to Palace to try to renegotiate that fee down! If this is the Reading Way of doing business (we also had the shenanigans with York over Murty and the wriggling out of Salako's appearances deal to name just two other examples) I suspect clubs agents and players may be becoming quite wary of doing business with us.

How apt that Madejski made a lot of his money through a business linked to the second hand car market. Is our word our bond?!

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by Ian Royal » 03 Jan 2015 13:34

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UpNorth Doyle at Chesterfield probably falls into the category of 'rising star' but his price has gone up to £2m following interest from several clubs.

So, finding someone good on the cheap as we have in the past will not be easy.


2M is less than 3M and his wages would be lower, guessing 10-15K a week less

He'd also be more of a punt with a probably longer settling period.

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by P!ssed Off » 03 Jan 2015 13:46

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UpNorth Doyle at Chesterfield probably falls into the category of 'rising star' but his price has gone up to £2m following interest from several clubs.

So, finding someone good on the cheap as we have in the past will not be easy.


2M is less than 3M and his wages would be lower, guessing 10-15K a week less

He'd also be more of a punt with a probably longer settling period.


and a much longer paying off period, given he's not approaching retirement.


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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by Ian Royal » 03 Jan 2015 14:07

Murray could easily play to 34. Doyle could prove to be a flop and have no resale value. Younger doesn't automatically equal better.

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by M Brook » 03 Jan 2015 14:09

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Dave-Royal murray was talking to radio berkshire this morning and he what to stay with reading !!! he said it up to reading to get him permanent... signed... he don't what to stay at palace !!... fans on here don't no what they talking about !!!
I assume he was talking on a local Reading area radio station.

I assume he was talking on a radio station that only transmits in pidgin English!

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by Pepe the Horseman » 03 Jan 2015 15:53

Sounds like we're doing just fine without him.

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by Ian Royal » 03 Jan 2015 16:23

Pepe the Horseman Sounds like we're doing just fine without him.

It's alright, it's better to just not have shots according to PO.

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by P!ssed Off » 03 Jan 2015 17:05

Ian Royal
Pepe the Horseman Sounds like we're doing just fine without him.

It's alright, it's better to just not have shots according to PO.


Better to have 1 shot and 1 goal than 10 shots and 10 misses.

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by Ian Royal » 03 Jan 2015 17:11

Although 10 shots 9 misses 1 goal >> 1 shot 1 goal. And Murray's record was hardly 10 shots 10 misses.

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Re: Should we sign Murray permanently?

by P!ssed Off » 03 Jan 2015 17:16

Ian Royal Although 10 shots 9 misses 1 goal >> 1 shot 1 goal. And Murray's record was hardly 10 shots 10 misses.


Remember that time when Murray scored the winning goal in that tight and scrappy game?

no, me neither...


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