Have you taken to Steve Clarke yet?

[Snowball]

PS

I think Feds needs a rest and Andersen a chance, if only to
get Feds back on his game

[Maguire]

how he thought we would win any game with a midfield of norwood, taylor and Guthrie is beyond me

I doubt that he did. He's playing a longer game than those 90mins.

Not sure what his game is called. Could have easily rested players, rotated the team a bit and not fielded that car crash of a formation

Fair enough, I concede that his selection and formation were sub-optimal even with the understanding that he wanted to rest players.

Minor caveat: we don't know which players were carrying knocks etc and capable of starting.

[ayjaydee]

I can see why Pog & Williams were given a complete rest (assuming not injured). Pog in particular even in the Leeds and Wigan debacles put in a great shift and he and Williams were excellent at Ipswich on Saturday.

Agree that Mackie was a strange omission for the reason stated.

All in all "we will take the positives and move on"

[Ian Royal]

TBM - For all you know a lot of those players have knocks / niggles & he is trying to keep them all fit.

Pretty confident Clarke knows what he's doing. He's proved he can get results in big games IMO. Plus if we get to Wembley, the competition in training will heat up as the players will be desperate to prove they are worthy of a start at Wembley. That should in turn improve the league results.

Lets be honest we need max 12 points to stay up. Hardly a massive ask to get 12 from 39 is it?

Making six changes to a winning side that beat a play off contender with an excellent home record and losing 0-3 to mid-table also rans, having previously made a couple of changes to a winning side that beat play off hopefuls and then lost 0-2 to mid-table also rans is enough to raise legitimate questions about that.

Especially combined with ropey performances & results against Millwall, Wigan and possibly Fulham (I can't recall) as well. All struggling teams. And as we all know from the past, getting some good results against the top teams don't mean shit if you're drawing or losing to those around you regularly.

Clarke was brought in to improve on Adkins and he's taken us from winning 1.19 ppg to 1.25 ppg. Now it's early days, I don't expect miracles, he's had a great cup run and definitely done some good work, but it's far from a rosey picture of a job definitely well done.
Improvement is definitely needed. A win on Saturday and we swing back to ok. Lose and it's unimpressed.

[Royality creeps In]

Pog in particular even in the Leeds and Wigan debacles put in a great shift "

LOLZ and LOLZ

Missed that then. I cant remember him doing a single thing apart from giving the keeper an easy header to catch in two home games.

I cannot recall him peppering their goal with shots, headers and feeding his team mates with goal scoring opportunities.
So influential in two home games with sweet FA goal mouth action.

Hate to see him have a bad game by your standards.

Probably dropped yesterday for being shite!

I think he should be nicked for deception (ie Impersonating a footballer)

[windermere_royal]

Pog in particular even in the Leeds and Wigan debacles put in a great shift "

LOLZ and LOLZ

Missed that then. I cant remember him doing a single thing apart from giving the keeper an easy header to catch in two home games.

I cannot recall him peppering their goal with shots, headers and feeding his team mates with goal scoring opportunities.
So influential in two home games with sweet FA goal mouth action.

Hate to see him have a bad game by your standards.

Probably dropped yesterday for being shite!

I think he should be nicked for deception (ie Impersonating a footballer)

very strange i noticed you were the latest poster and I knew the subject of the post before I read it

[Ian Royal]

It's the child who thinks Pog is our worst ever striker right?

[bcubed]

TBM - For all you know a lot of those players have knocks / niggles & he is trying to keep them all fit.

Pretty confident Clarke knows what he's doing. He's proved he can get results in big games IMO. Plus if we get to Wembley, the competition in training will heat up as the players will be desperate to prove they are worthy of a start at Wembley. That should in turn improve the league results.

Lets be honest we need max 12 points to stay up. Hardly a massive ask to get 12 from 39 is it?

Making six changes to a winning side that beat a play off contender with an excellent home record and losing 0-3 to mid-table also rans, having previously made a couple of changes to a winning side that beat play off hopefuls and then lost 0-2 to mid-table also rans is enough to raise legitimate questions about that.

Especially combined with ropey performances & results against Millwall, Wigan and possibly Fulham (I can't recall) as well. All struggling teams. And as we all know from the past, getting some good results against the top teams don't mean shit if you're drawing or losing to those around you regularly.

Clarke was brought in to improve on Adkins and he's taken us from winning 1.19 ppg to 1.25 ppg. Now it's early days, I don't expect miracles, he's had a great cup run and definitely done some good work, but it's far from a rosey picture of a job definitely well done.
Improvement is definitely needed. A win on Saturday and we swing back to ok. Lose and it's unimpressed.

Yep, all this
I had taken to him to start with, maybe giving him the benefit of the doubt
But he definitely tightened up the defence and some players are performing better under him.

The mass changes and strange selections/formation are leaving me seriously doubting that he knows what he's doing

And if he can't take the league games seriously why should any fan?
Is there any point going on Saturday?!

[Mr.Swainey]

@ Ian Royal.

Moan, moan, moan.

The sane amongst us are still pleased that scouse physio was sacked.

[Harpers So Solid Crew]

You can't polish a turd, both Adkins and clarke have had that job.
Nigel Howe has pointed out as best he can where Anton left us up shit creek, one stupid year in football can take five or ten to rectify.
Ask Bradford, ex Premier League, believe it or not

[bcubed]

You can't polish a turd, both Adkins and clarke have had that job.
Nigel Howe has pointed out as best he can where Anton left us up shit creek, one stupid year in football can take five or ten to rectify.
Ask Bradford, ex Premier League, believe it or not

Doesn't mean you shouldn't make the best of what you have got
And Clarke's not doing that

[paultheroyal]

How anyone cannot see an improvement under Clarke beggars belief.

We were in a total downward spiral under Adkins and I am sure our league position would be a whole lot worse.

An FA Cup run, mid table safety and a review of the squad which will mean the likes of Taylor, Guthrie, Akpan, Blackman, Kelly etc are not here next season is a job well done.

[Extended-Phenotype]

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Minor caveat: we don't know which players were carrying knocks etc and capable of starting.

True. Though Im not sure why Clarke wouldn't mention that.

[Snowball]

How anyone cannot see an improvement under Clarke beggars belief.

We were in a total downward spiral under Adkins and I am sure our league position would be a whole lot worse.

An FA Cup run, mid table safety and a review of the squad which will mean the likes of Taylor, Guthrie, Akpan, Blackman, Kelly etc are not here next season is a job well done.

+1

Never in a million years could we have imagined being 90 minutes from Wembley
under Adkins. SC has stabilised us. Even adding in the Watford game (wrong, IMO)
we are W7 D3 L5 and the first (Watford) and the latest (Huddersfield) have changed
L3 to L5. The mid-section is W7 D3 L3

In points equivalence that would be 24 from 13, PO form

[Snowball]

OTOH you could say we have lost 3 of our last 5!














Yet won at Derby (top of the table), won at Ipswich...

[TBM]

Never in a million years could we have imagined being 90 minutes from Wembley under Adkins

tbf, we were 181 minutes away from Wembley under Adkins

[leon]

Never in a million years could we have imagined being 90 minutes from Wembley under Adkins

tbf, we were 181 minutes away from Wembley under Adkins

chuckLOLe

[Maguire]

Never in a million years could we have imagined being 90 minutes from Wembley under Adkins

tbf, we were 181 minutes away from Wembley under Adkins

Technically we were 1 minute away from being 90 mins away from Wembley*. So basically all we'd have to imagine is Brighton not scoring a goal, which isn't too hard.

*if you get in the POs you're going be 90mins away from Wembley after the first leg

[TBM]

Never in a million years could we have imagined being 90 minutes from Wembley under Adkins

tbf, we were 181 minutes away from Wembley under Adkins

Technically we were 1 minute away from being 90 mins away from Wembley*. So basically all we'd have to imagine is Brighton not scoring a goal, which isn't too hard.

*if you get in the POs you're going be 90mins away from Wembley after the first leg

Very true

So Adkins wasn't that bad, after all

[winchester_royal]

Shirley if you get into either the PO's or the QF's of the cup you're guaranteed to be 1 minute away from Wembley