LOLiverpooLOL - Next Season

[WoodleyRoyal]

and the league is better this year

[Angry Shed Sex]

But your reply is nonsensical.

Doesn't matter where they were at the start of the season. It's as bad as Liverpool fans saying "If the season started in January, we would have won the league".

Not that I am a Rodgers apologist but I think he is trying to say that 4th place for Liverpool this season, considering the bad start they had, would be seen as a positive.

I don't think it would also be unreasonable to also say Liverpool fans at the end of last season would be disappointed in finishing 4th this season.

I'm sorry if that is causing your under-utilised brain some difficulties. I'll try not to post in future.

[No Fixed Abode]

But your reply is nonsensical.

Doesn't matter where they were at the start of the season. It's as bad as Liverpool fans saying "If the season started in January, we would have won the league".

Not that I am a Rodgers apologist but I think he is trying to say that 4th place for Liverpool this season, considering the bad start they had, would be seen as a positive.

I don't think it would also be unreasonable to also say Liverpool fans at the end of last season would be disappointed in finishing 4th this season.

I'm sorry if that is causing your under-utilised brain some difficulties. I'll try not to post in future.

It's ok my m8. Just try and stop digging that hole.

[Royalclapper]

Roughly translated Rodgers is saying that they've lost pretty much the only top class player they had Suarez - and now he's doing his best to bond together a load of try-hards.

[Hoop Blah]

Roughly translated Rodgers is saying that they've lost pretty much the only top class player they had Suarez - and now he's doing his best to bond together a load of try-hards.

They also lost their second top scorer through injury for quite some time and a 'second season syndrome' after the being the surprise package last year.

Obviously 4th isn't better than 2nd, but taken in context of the changes and how much more difficult it is to replicate success rather than just fluke a season and I can see what Rodgers is on about.

[No Fixed Abode]

Roughly translated Rodgers is saying that they've lost pretty much the only top class player they had Suarez - and now he's doing his best to bond together a load of try-hards.

They also lost their second top scorer through injury for quite some time and a 'second season syndrome' after the being the surprise package last year.

Obviously 4th isn't better than 2nd, but taken in context of the changes and how much more difficult it is to replicate success rather than just fluke a season and I can see what Rodgers is on about.

So, they lost Suarez, but had pretty much all the same players from last season. Pretty poor show if you rely on 1 player so much. The injury to Sturridge, these things happen. You can't use that as an excuse.

[Royal Rother]

God, you're an idiot.

[No Fixed Abode]

God, you're an idiot.

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Season starts in August. If you get off to a bad start, that's nobody else's fault. If you finish 4th, that is not a better acheivement than finishing 2nd. I hope that's not too complic8ed to understand.

[Ouroboros]

Kes, would Southampton finishing 4th be a bigger achievement than Arsenal finishing 3rd?

[Whatevs]

Kes, would Southampton finishing 4th be a bigger achievement than Arsenal finishing 3rd?

we have to define 'achievement' and then get into an argument over semantics (easily another 10 pages of quality* bantz)

[Hoop Blah]

Roughly translated Rodgers is saying that they've lost pretty much the only top class player they had Suarez - and now he's doing his best to bond together a load of try-hards.

They also lost their second top scorer through injury for quite some time and a 'second season syndrome' after the being the surprise package last year.

Obviously 4th isn't better than 2nd, but taken in context of the changes and how much more difficult it is to replicate success rather than just fluke a season and I can see what Rodgers is on about.

So, they lost Suarez, but had pretty much all the same players from last season. Pretty poor show if you rely on 1 player so much. The injury to Sturridge, these things happen. You can't use that as an excuse.

They've also had European football to contend with. Last year it could be argued that their title challenge benefitted from not having the Champions League distractions of the other challengers but this year they've had to throw that into the mix.

You could also argue that with the amount of money United and Arsenal have been throwing about this season the competition for the top four is stronger this year than last.

For whatever reasons this season has presented different challenges which some could argue make this season more difficult than last season and so making the top 4 a bigger achievement.

[No Fixed Abode]

And Liverpool didn't spend millions?

Other teams have to cope with European football and have that expectation of finishing in the top 4.

[Whatevs]

And Liverpool didn't spend millions?

Other teams have to cope with European football and have that expectation of finishing in the top 4.

When Liverpool did well in Europe 2005-7 it was always because they were totally out of the running for anything domestic. The other clubs would usually be competing in Europe + league + (pos) cup competitions

[Hoop Blah]

And Liverpool didn't spend millions?

Other teams have to cope with European football and have that expectation of finishing in the top 4.

Of course Liverpool spent a lot yes, but not as much as United, and they were trying to replace their best player and enhance the squad for Europe.

I'm sure they also expected, and still do, to get into the top 4. That doesn't' t mean it's not an achievement though does it?

[No Fixed Abode]

And Liverpool didn't spend millions?

Other teams have to cope with European football and have that expectation of finishing in the top 4.

Of course Liverpool spent a lot yes, but not as much as United, and they were trying to replace their best player and enhance the squad for Europe.

I'm sure they also expected, and still do, to get into the top 4. That doesn't' t mean it's not an achievement though does it?

Correct. Just not as good an achievement as finishing 2nd.

[Hoop Blah]

Depends on your point of view I guess.

[No Fixed Abode]

Depends on your point of view I guess.

2nd has always been a better achievement than 4th. Unless we're doing the school thing, where places don't matter as not to upset the school kids. It's the taking part that counts....

[Winston Smith]

2nd has always been a better achievement than 4th

Nope. There are no hard and fast rules as to what is a 'better achievement', that is a purely subjective thing.

[No Fixed Abode]

2nd has always been a better achievement than 4th

Nope. There are no hard and fast rules as to what is a 'better achievement', that is a purely subjective thing.

[Whatevs]

2nd has always been a better achievement than 4th

Nope. There are no hard and fast rules as to what is a 'better achievement', that is a purely subjective thing.

This is Liverpool football club we're talking about 4fs.

It'd be like Man U thinking they've done well to finish 4th