by Jagermesiter1871 » 04 Mar 2015 22:25
by Snowball » 04 Mar 2015 22:29
SCIAG When, and more importantly, how, did Blackman get three assists?
by SCIAG » 04 Mar 2015 23:36
SnowballSCIAG When, and more importantly, how, did Blackman get three assists?
Two in the home game v Millwall, and 1 v Blackpool
according to trnsfrmkt
by leon » 04 Mar 2015 23:42
Jagermesiter1871 Just another addition to my long list of Russian dislikes.
by Jagermesiter1871 » 05 Mar 2015 00:08
leonJagermesiter1871 Just another addition to my long list of Russian dislikes.
Like the username. But 1781 would be the icing on the cake.
by Reading4eva » 05 Mar 2015 06:38
SnowballSCIAG When, and more importantly, how, did Blackman get three assists?
Two in the home game v Millwall, and 1 v Blackpool
according to trnsfrmkt
by Snowball » 05 Mar 2015 09:21
by Jano » 05 Mar 2015 10:31
by Hoop Blah » 05 Mar 2015 10:57
by Maguire » 05 Mar 2015 12:22
by paddy20 » 05 Mar 2015 12:28
Hoop Blah Of course Pogrebnyak is expensive, overpriced and pretty much an unwanted drain on our limited resources. There really isn't anything we can do about that though at the moment is there?
It certainly isn't a reason not to play him, unless his cost spirals as a result of playing, which I don't believe is the case.
When we had Murray it was rightly difficult for Pogrebnyak to get a game. Murray was much more what the side needed and a much more natural partner for Cox as well. Now that Murray has gone Pogrebnyak is probably the only forward we have who can really lead the line in any way shape or form, he's certainly the only one that looks to be able to play upfront on his own. The alternative is Blackman or Mackie, neither of which have had much success and neither of which can hold the ball up as effectively as Pogrebnyak.
The main problem we have is that Cox and Pogrebnyak are too similar. They are both most suited to playing off of a forward who can lead the line and be the main goalscorer. Someone like Murray for instance. Without that partner and without any wingers or a creative force in midfield really creating too many chances for them both Cox and Pogrebnyak have struggled.
We need someone to play in the box and get on the end of things more often. That was a point Clarke made in his post-match interview as well I think. How we do that with the players we have available is something for him to work out but until we do I can't see us scoring many goals.
Should we drop Pobrebnyak (or Cox for that matter) and give Blackman, Mackie or even Yakubu a run up tops with one or other of them? Maybe, but it's not likely to happen until we're out of the cup.
by Whore Jackie » 05 Mar 2015 12:32
Maguire I like Pogrebnyak. There, I said it.
Of course he's a disappointment when you consider salary and reputation but he works his arse off and has had a few decent games recently. He's also not a massive chav idiot like half our players.
My major complaint with him is that (accepting that he's in a side that doesn't provide a lot of good delivery) he doesn't get himself into the areas where goals are scored often enough. His goal return is too low even when playing in a poor side.
I would definitely start him v Bradford, even thought he'll prolly get sent off. Yakubu is rubbish for a start.
by The Real Sandhurst Royal » 05 Mar 2015 12:44
Paddy20 wrote: Despite our paucity of strikers is it time to call time on the Pog? I just wonder what he offers anymore.
He can't jump
He can't shoot
He can't control the ball
He's got no pace
He hardly ever scores
He has poor first touch
He does try but is that enough? Time for a more mobile attack with Cox and Mackie up front and Yakubu and the Pog for last 15 min subs. Lets face it he has been an expensive disaster based on a short period of games with Fulham where he scored 6 in 6 and then no goals after that. Time to wise up
by Z175 » 05 Mar 2015 13:58
Maguire I like Pogrebnyak. There, I said it.
Of course he's a disappointment when you consider salary and reputation but he works his arse off and has had a few decent games recently. He's also not a massive chav idiot like half our players.
My major complaint with him is that (accepting that he's in a side that doesn't provide a lot of good delivery) he doesn't get himself into the areas where goals are scored often enough. His goal return is too low even when playing in a poor side.
I would definitely start him v Bradford, even thought he'll prolly get sent off. Yakubu is rubbish for a start.
by paddy20 » 05 Mar 2015 15:07
The Real Sandhurst RoyalPaddy20 wrote: Despite our paucity of strikers is it time to call time on the Pog? I just wonder what he offers anymore.
He can't jump
He can't shoot
He can't control the ball
He's got no pace
He hardly ever scores
He has poor first touch
He does try but is that enough? Time for a more mobile attack with Cox and Mackie up front and Yakubu and the Pog for last 15 min subs. Lets face it he has been an expensive disaster based on a short period of games with Fulham where he scored 6 in 6 and then no goals after that. Time to wise up
That will be a hatrick on Saturday then!!
by paddy20 » 05 Mar 2015 15:08
Z175Maguire I like Pogrebnyak. There, I said it.
Of course he's a disappointment when you consider salary and reputation but he works his arse off and has had a few decent games recently. He's also not a massive chav idiot like half our players.
My major complaint with him is that (accepting that he's in a side that doesn't provide a lot of good delivery) he doesn't get himself into the areas where goals are scored often enough. His goal return is too low even when playing in a poor side.
I would definitely start him v Bradford, even thought he'll prolly get sent off. Yakubu is rubbish for a start.
I agree with all that.
I don't think there is much wrong with Pogrebnyak's shooting, its just hes had like a handful of half chances all season. Is that because we don't create enough or because he doesn't get himself in goal scoring postions enough? If the latter, it doesn't help that he works hard on the touchline then is too slow to get in the box!
Personally I would have him work a bit less hard. Keep him right up top, one on one the less physical centre back for 90 mins. Forget the ball, just bully the man. Then have Blackman or HRK up with him constantly running in behind.
by blueroyals » 05 Mar 2015 15:25
by melonhead » 05 Mar 2015 16:18
by Snowball » 05 Mar 2015 17:36
by KC Royal » 06 Mar 2015 13:49
Snowball Not saying I'M impressed, either, just posting the stats.
Incidentally, one assist v Millwall was winning a penalty (I presume) which he scored.
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