Ian Royal Tell us again how Long is a 10 goal a season man in the PL...
I refer the dishonourable gentleman to the answer I gave earlier
by Snowball » 14 Mar 2015 18:13
Ian Royal Tell us again how Long is a 10 goal a season man in the PL...
by RoyallyFcuked » 15 Mar 2015 16:50
by Ian Royal » 15 Mar 2015 17:38
by Hoop Blah » 15 Mar 2015 18:14
by Hoop Blah » 15 Mar 2015 18:21
by Snowball » 15 Mar 2015 18:37
Hoop Blah
Either way, for all the praise Gunter gets for being an athlete and attacking full back (misplaced a lot of the time IMO) you have to remember that Obita has been brought up as a singer and so really should be more effective in the final third than Gunter who's main attacking strength is his relationship with McLeary.
by Snowball » 15 Mar 2015 18:38
Ian Royal Similar to Blackman in that they're both really wide forwards in an attacking three.
Given Obita and Gunter are decent going forward and not great defensively I do wonder if we're better suited to a back 3 with wingbacks and ... something like:
......................Federici
..........Pearce..Hector..Cooper
Gunter....................................Obita
............Chalobah..Williams
....Blackman...........................HRK
...........................Pog
Hector can step out to bring the ball forward if there's space. Williams or Chalobah can slot across to cover a rampaging run forward. The flanks can drop back in defence to a 5-4-1. The players would need to be aware and bright enough to go with circumstance though.
by SCIAG » 15 Mar 2015 19:43
Ian Royal snowball appears to have regressed back into proper autistic mental after mellowing for a while.
Snowball I've put a few "old favourites" in the list for comparison.
Off the players currently at the club and have played 10+ games, HRK is fourth overall in terms of minutes played for a goal or assist, just 30 minutes behind our current top player Cox, 29 behind McCleary, 18 behind Mackie.
Snowball 264 Appearances 25 Goals 31 Assists = 56 G/A in 16,278 Minutes = 291 Minutes per Goal/Assist LEFT - "Obita- HRK"
202 Appearances 11 Goals 29 Assists = 40 G/A in 15,473 Minutes = 386 Minutes per Goal/Assist RIGHT "Gunter-McCleary"
The appearances should really be averaged out and the mins goal/assist should really be halved as they are "both playing"
132 Appearances 25 Goals 31 Assists = 56 G/A in 8,139 Minutes = 146 Minutes per Goal/Assist "Obita- HRK"
101 Appearances 11 Goals 29 Assists = 40 G/A in 7,737 Minutes = 193 Minutes per Goal/Assist "Gunter-McCleary"
by Ian Royal » 15 Mar 2015 21:56
SnowballIan Royal Similar to Blackman in that they're both really wide forwards in an attacking three.
Given Obita and Gunter are decent going forward and not great defensively I do wonder if we're better suiHe's to a back 3 with wingbacks and ... something like:
......................Federici
..........Pearce..Hector..Cooper
Gunter....................................Obita
............Chalobah..Williams
....Blackman...........................HRK
...........................Pog
Hector can step out to bring the ball forward if there's space. Williams or Chalobah can slot across to cover a rampaging run forward. The flanks can drop back in defence to a 5-4-1. The players would need to be aware and bright enough to go with circumstance though.
So you'd drop McCleary?
by Snowball » 16 Mar 2015 00:26
by Hoop Blah » 16 Mar 2015 09:49
by Portsmouth Royal » 16 Mar 2015 10:33
Ian Royal Similar to Blackman in that they're both really wide forwards in an attacking three.
Given Obita and Gunter are decent going forward and not great defensively I do wonder if we're better suited to a back 3 with wingbacks and ... something like:
......................Federici
..........Pearce..Hector..Cooper
Gunter....................................Obita
............Chalobah..Williams
....Blackman...........................HRK
...........................Pog
Hector can step out to bring the ball forward if there's space. Williams or Chalobah can slot across to cover a rampaging run forward. The flanks can drop back in defence to a 5-4-1. The players would need to be aware and bright enough to go with circumstance though.
by Snowball » 16 Mar 2015 10:46
Hoop Blah And that kind of shows why your stats are largely irrelevant in this context and detail.
You come over all holier-than-thou because you look at the facts as opposed to form an opinion with your eyes and understanding of the game but don't take enough of the influencing factors into account to make those facts relevant.
by Hoop Blah » 16 Mar 2015 11:09
by Forbury Lion » 16 Mar 2015 11:35
and Mackie?SnowballIan Royal Similar to Blackman in that they're both really wide forwards in an attacking three.
Given Obita and Gunter are decent going forward and not great defensively I do wonder if we're better suited to a back 3 with wingbacks and ... something like:
......................Federici
..........Pearce..Hector..Cooper
Gunter....................................Obita
............Chalobah..Williams
....Blackman...........................HRK
...........................Pog
Hector can step out to bring the ball forward if there's space. Williams or Chalobah can slot across to cover a rampaging run forward. The flanks can drop back in defence to a 5-4-1. The players would need to be aware and bright enough to go with circumstance though.
So you'd drop McCleary?
by Snowball » 16 Mar 2015 11:44
Hoop Blah We haven't scored that many goals though Snowball, that is a key point in the lack of assists. 7 blanks in 9 homes games, or whatever the stat before the Brighton game, is testament to that issue.
I also think you're creating this perception that the right side creates so many more goals/chances than the left.
by WestRoyal » 16 Mar 2015 12:20
Snowball SCIAG
It wasn't "in depth analysis"
As I said it was a rough thing, just curious as to which side
produces the goals.
As I also said, my instinct was that the right wing produced 3-4-5 times as many goals/assists
as the left side, so I was very surprised to find the left side produces more.
Sure, I'd need to know how many HRK goals were pens, how many (if any) pens
were won by HRK, Obita, Gunter, McCleary. Also how often HRK played LW but
not with Obita at LB, how often Obita played LB but not behind HRK, and how
often Obita played LW or MF, and how often HRK played striker or No 10
But teasing out the detail ain't something I fancy doing
by Hoop Blah » 16 Mar 2015 13:26
SnowballHoop Blah We haven't scored that many goals though Snowball, that is a key point in the lack of assists. 7 blanks in 9 homes games, or whatever the stat before the Brighton game, is testament to that issue.
I also think you're creating this perception that the right side creates so many more goals/chances than the left.
Huh? I said, my subjective impression. Isn't me creating the perception a given?
Mind you, plenty on this list say "we are creating nothing down the left" or something similar
by Angry Shed Sex » 16 Mar 2015 17:06
by teignmouth hoops » 17 Mar 2015 09:23
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