Record Watch 2014/15

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by Winchester Royal » 15 Feb 2015 18:52

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Nameless Anyone have the info on our record breaking FA cup performances ? Not sure who comes close to us, but if we win the cup this year it will be the first time for decades the gap between us and the pack will have closed.....


Don't understand this!


We have lost more FA cup games than any other club.

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by tidus_mi2 » 15 Feb 2015 19:15

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Nameless Anyone have the info on our record breaking FA cup performances ? Not sure who comes close to us, but if we win the cup this year it will be the first time for decades the gap between us and the pack will have closed.....


Don't understand this!


We have lost more FA cup games than any other club.

By virtue of entering for the first time in the 1877-78 season, the same season as Notts County, since then both teams have competed in every FA Cup with Notts County winning in 1894 and therefore having 1 less FA Cup defeat than ourselves.

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by The Cube » 15 Feb 2015 19:24

At this very moment we are equal with Notts County on the largest number of FA Cup tie losses for any League club. That's because they've lost one this season and we haven't.

There are two clubs who have proably lost more FA Cup games - Maidenhead and Marlow. They both entered the FA Cup six seasons before us, but Maidenhead missed one season in the 1870s. Assuming that both those clubs have entered every year in the last few seasons (that is, since I last checked) then Marlow hold the outright record.

I think the only other club who might possibly have lost more games than Reading (as at the start of the season) are Sheffield FC, but I have no idea if they have entered every single season since their first, which was the year before Reading. I suspect they are nowhere near us.


All the above assumes that scratched games count as a loss. The lucky loser season doesn't affect any of my statements, although in theory it could have done. The two-legged season is the reason why I have referred to Cup ties rather than games, although I believe that if anyone has a closer look at it they will find it makes no difference.

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by sputnik » 15 Feb 2015 19:38

Not even in the top twenty for FA Cup defeats.

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/fa-cup/all-time-table

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by From Despair To Where? » 15 Feb 2015 19:50

I suspect that list only includes the 1st Rd onwards, Certainly before 1900, we played in qualifying rounds.


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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by sputnik » 15 Feb 2015 19:58

Yeah that makes sense.

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by sputnik » 15 Feb 2015 20:04

Anyway, as they say, you've got to be in it to win it

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by Royal Ginger » 15 Feb 2015 23:36

For such a "tinpot" nothing little club we do alright in records.

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by Snowball » 16 Feb 2015 11:09

Isn't "number of losses in the FA Cup" a dumb statistic?

You can only lose 1 game a season and every entering club except the winner loses precisely one game

So all the stat means is "Played in a lot of FA Cup seasons and never won it."


Wow


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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by urz13 » 16 Feb 2015 12:27

Fewest FA cup games won would be a better stat.

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by Four Of Clubs » 16 Feb 2015 17:19

From Despair To Where? I suspect that list only includes the 1st Rd onwards, Certainly before 1900, we played in qualifying rounds.


...indeed it does - just taking Marlow's FA Cup records - the link above has them down @ 198th showing 'only' 48 ties played - well ignoring their apparentmystery absence between 1897 & 1945 they have entered the FA Cup on 87 occasions - and played about 160 ties.

below them in 201st place is Maidenhead (United?) - for some reason the records I usually look at (FCHD.INFO) aren't showing up properly before 1928 :? - possibly as they merged as Maidenhead and Norfolkians sometime in or after the 1890s? Adding these together you get about 90 years of entry and just over 200 odd in number of ties played.

However our record in the linked table there does look about right - - our corresponding FCHD entry shows 331 ties in 115 entries

...quietly collects anorak and sidles back to GF... 8)
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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by Ian Royal » 16 Feb 2015 17:21

Snowball Isn't "number of losses in the FA Cup" a dumb statistic?

You can only lose 1 game a season and every entering club except the winner loses precisely one game

So all the stat means is "Played in a lot of FA Cup seasons and never won it."


Wow

Yay! We've found a stat you won't obsess about!

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by JC » 19 Feb 2015 13:08

2 more gone from the 106 chase as Deby and Middlesbrough have dropped out
Only Bristol City (112) can beat it and 2 from L2 can equal


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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by Sutekh » 19 Feb 2015 17:20

Snowball Isn't "number of losses in the FA Cup" a dumb statistic?

You can only lose 1 game a season and every entering club except the winner loses precisely one game

So all the stat means is "Played in a lot of FA Cup seasons and never won it."


Wow


Actually that is incorrect, in 1999 Darlington lost two games against two entirely different teams in the FA Cup.

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by Linden Jones » 19 Feb 2015 19:10

The Cube At this very moment we are equal with Notts County on the largest number of FA Cup tie losses for any League club. That's because they've lost one this season and we haven't.

There are two clubs who have proably lost more FA Cup games - Maidenhead and Marlow. They both entered the FA Cup six seasons before us, but Maidenhead missed one season in the 1870s. Assuming that both those clubs have entered every year in the last few seasons (that is, since I last checked) then Marlow hold the outright record.

I think the only other club who might possibly have lost more games than Reading (as at the start of the season) are Sheffield FC, but I have no idea if they have entered every single season since their first, which was the year before Reading. I suspect they are nowhere near us.


Both Maidenhead and Marlow have played in all but one FA Cup competition and therefore share the record for most defeats. Marlow are the only club to have entered every competition but one season went onto decline to compete having paid the entry fee.
Sheffield didn't enter in the early years which is why York Road has the oldest ground record as it's seen virtually continuous FA Cup action from 1871/2 to the present day.

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by JC » 22 Feb 2015 19:00

JC 2 more gone from the 106 chase as Deby and Middlesbrough have dropped out
Only Bristol City (112) can beat it and 2 from L2 can equal



Bristol City down to 109 and Buton on 106

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by Nameless » 22 Feb 2015 19:16

Snowball Isn't "number of losses in the FA Cup" a dumb statistic?



Well you are the expert !

It's a pretty decent statistics, bit tongue in cheek but actually promotes quite a bit of discussion. It's actually more 'interesting' than number of times you have won the cup, which is a bit of a dead end, although obviously a worthwhile statistic of record.

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by Franchise FC » 17 Mar 2015 22:24

Bristol City can still get 107 if they win the next 8

Unlikely, but ...

Preston can still get 106

Must admit I haven't looked at the fixtures to see if they're playing each other

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by RoyalBlue » 17 Mar 2015 22:34

Franchise FC Bristol City can still get 107 if they win the next 8

Unlikely, but ...

Preston can still get 106

Must admit I haven't looked at the fixtures to see if they're playing each other


Well that's a bit lazy of you! Wouldn't have happened with Strap! :wink:

Just done the job for you: 11th April, Preston at home to Bristol City.

And surely the max Preston can get is 102?

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Re: Record Watch 2014/15

by tidus_mi2 » 17 Mar 2015 22:37

Unless I'm oxf*rd up my maths somewhere, Preston are on 36 games with 72 points, they can only get 102 points at most. Just Bristol City to worry about, frankly the way they are playing they could probably pull it off, need Samuel to help Coventry to nick a point off them or Parky to get a result.

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