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[No Fixed Abode]

Despite Arsenal finishing 2nd in their group and get one of the easier draws in the round of 16, they fell at the same hurdle as they have done in previous years.

City tonight - I can't see them going through either. Perhaps it's really time to have a winter break as with the other top European Leagues.

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Screw ruining the best part of the season for the fans, in the most depressing part of the year, just because our top 4 teams are sh*t.

[Whatevs]

Pepe's expecting a spanking off EIL.

I think this would be something she'd be up for Pepe m8

[No Fixed Abode]

Screw ruining the best part of the season for the fans, in the most depressing part of the year, just because our top 4 teams are sh*t.

I think that's an over-exaggeration saying they're sh1t. I think it's been fairly evident that our English sides have looked fairly tired in this round of UCL games. PSG's games get moved forward 24 hours to a Friday night ahead of a UCL game. It's certainly something we should also consider.

[LUX]

over- exaggeration?


r u a romanian?

[No Fixed Abode]

over- exaggeration?


r u a romanian?

[YateleyRoyal]

Screw ruining the best part of the season for the fans, in the most depressing part of the year, just because our top 4 teams are sh*t.

I think that's an over-exaggeration saying they're sh1t. I think it's been fairly evident that our English sides have looked fairly tired in this round of UCL games. PSG's games get moved forward 24 hours to a Friday night ahead of a UCL game. It's certainly something we should also consider.

A rare 'greed.

[Pepe the Horseman]

over- exaggeration?


r u a romanian?

He's calling you a gypsy.

[Winston Smith]

Despite Arsenal finishing 2nd in their group and get one of the easier draws in the round of 16, they fell at the same hurdle as they have done in previous years.

City tonight - I can't see them going through either. Perhaps it's really time to have a winter break as with the other top European Leagues.

How tired and in need of a winter break were english teams in the mid to late 00's?

[No Fixed Abode]

Despite Arsenal finishing 2nd in their group and get one of the easier draws in the round of 16, they fell at the same hurdle as they have done in previous years.

City tonight - I can't see them going through either. Perhaps it's really time to have a winter break as with the other top European Leagues.

How tired and in need of a winter break were english teams in the mid to late 00's?

Times change m8.

I would say the Premier League is as competitive as it's ever been. The physicality of the Premier League is definitely higher than Spain, Germany, Italy or France. Yet they have a winter break and we don't. Their FA's are more flexible with their teams domestic fixtures too.

[genome]

I don't like this new sensible, sense-making Kes. I want the belmont back.

[Winston Smith]

Despite Arsenal finishing 2nd in their group and get one of the easier draws in the round of 16, they fell at the same hurdle as they have done in previous years.

City tonight - I can't see them going through either. Perhaps it's really time to have a winter break as with the other top European Leagues.

How tired and in need of a winter break were english teams in the mid to late 00's?

Times change m8.

In the last 10 years we have had 3 CL winners and multiple other finalist and semi finalists (didnt we have 3 semi finalist one year in the last decade?) where the other big leagues had a winter break and we didnt, But now this season we have no teams in the QF it is definitely the lack of winter break causing it?

There doesnt always have to be finger pointing and excuse making when things dont go your way in sport.

[Angry Shed Sex]

I don't like this new sensible, sense-making Kes. I want the belmont back.

Oh he's there all right, just waiting to strike with a hilarious comment about Hillsborough or black people when the opportunity arises.

[Silver Fox]

Their FA's are more flexible with their teams domestic fixtures too.

But in 2012, the year you got so upset about the FA making you play your cup semi on the Sunday, you won the Champions League

[No Fixed Abode]

How tired and in need of a winter break were english teams in the mid to late 00's?

Times change m8.

In the last 10 years we have had 3 CL winners and multiple other finalist and semi finalists (didnt we have 3 semi finalist one year in the last decade?) where the other big leagues had a winter break and we didnt, But now this season we have no teams in the QF it is definitely the lack of winter break causing it?

There doesnt always have to be finger pointing and excuse making when things dont go your way in sport.

Granted, I take your point. But as I said, times change. If we want to sit still whilst the rest of Europe (possibly) progress..........

Bayern, Barca, Real, PSG all get the benefit of being able to rest their best players in some domestic games as some of the smaller sides aren't gr8 - you don't really get that in the Premier League.

When you look at Liverpool in 2005, they finished 37 points behind Chelsea in the league, so they could rest player domestically. I don't think they would ever have won it had they been in the mix for the Prem title.

Assuming City go out tonight - come next years competition it will be 4 years since an English has won it.

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Screw ruining the best part of the season for the fans, in the most depressing part of the year, just because our top 4 teams are sh*t.

I think that's an over-exaggeration saying they're sh1t. I think it's been fairly evident that our English sides have looked fairly tired in this round of UCL games. PSG's games get moved forward 24 hours to a Friday night ahead of a UCL game. It's certainly something we should also consider.

^^ better than a winter break, which impacts on everyone for the sake of 4 teams.

And I'm not convinced a winter break would make any difference. Plus the teams would just be doing friendly, money making tours in the spare time

[No Fixed Abode]

Their FA's are more flexible with their teams domestic fixtures too.

But in 2012, the year you got so upset about the FA making you play your cup semi on the Sunday, you won the Champions League

Fair point well made. I do however think it's beneficial to be a bit more flexible with sides in Europe. Who knows, we might have won it easier with a winter break or the fixtures being moved.....

[Ark Royal]

Serious question: How long will it take consistent failures at this level of the competition before England's UEFA co-efficient is low enough for only three teams to qualify from the Premier League?

[Ian Royal]

Serious question: How long will it take consistent failures at this level of the competition before England's UEFA co-efficient is low enough for only three teams to qualify from the Premier League?

Oh the fun that would produce.

[sandman]

Have to say kes may be on to something here, the winter break has really benefitted Real Madrid this year.