Brian: The right decision?

3714 posts

Have the club done the right thing to sack Brian today?

Yes
290
51%
No
225
40%
Not sure
53
9%
 
Total votes: 568
Royal Bahamas
Member
Posts: 232
Joined: 26 Sep 2011 16:19

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Royal Bahamas » 16 Dec 2014 21:25

RoyalinBracknell
Royal Lady Until someone comes in who achieves more than McD did when he was manager here, it will, to me, always be the wrong decision.


Not an unfair summary - particularly considering he wasn't given the chance again to succeed/fail at this level with us.

Has the club gone forwards since sacking Brian McDermott? I think the answer is quite clearly no.

Has the club gone backwards? I think the answer is quite clearly yes.

I suppose this leaves the question - would we have gone backwards more/quicker if McDermott had stayed? Obviously this is hypothetical but I very, very much doubt it.


100% agree!!!! Brian should never have been fired. He was the Heart of Reading!

User avatar
schubert06
Member
Posts: 49
Joined: 18 May 2008 21:44
Location: Unsightly Croydon Town

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by schubert06 » 17 Dec 2014 00:01

Royal Lady Until someone comes in who achieves more than McD did when he was manager here, it will, to me, always be the wrong decision.


I don't say much on this forum, but I agree with this

User avatar
bcubed
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 11819
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 18:16
Location: Would do better with a stick of rhubarb

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by bcubed » 17 Dec 2014 13:37

schubert06
Royal Lady Until someone comes in who achieves more than McD did when he was manager here, it will, to me, always be the wrong decision.


I don't say much on this forum, but I agree with this


Well I'm not sure it was worth the wait!


I do like your songs though! Time for another?

User avatar
WoodleyRoyal
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 5956
Joined: 16 Jun 2008 10:49
Location: when was the last time you did something for the first time?

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by WoodleyRoyal » 25 Mar 2015 14:55

Royal Lady Until someone comes in who achieves more than McD did when he was manager here, it will, to me, always be the wrong decision.


Clarke is a better manager than Brian

User avatar
melonhead
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 14230
Joined: 30 Jul 2010 15:36
Location: on a thorn

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by melonhead » 25 Mar 2015 15:11

hes probably a better coach, ill give you that



the whole thing still leaves a bitter taste in the mouth

forced out on the whim of some Russian tw@ who buggered off himself a few months later

what an absolute cnut


User avatar
WoodleyRoyal
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 5956
Joined: 16 Jun 2008 10:49
Location: when was the last time you did something for the first time?

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by WoodleyRoyal » 25 Mar 2015 15:32

so hypothetically then had anton left 6 months earlier would Brian still be in charge of Reading today? i think not

User avatar
melonhead
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 14230
Joined: 30 Jul 2010 15:36
Location: on a thorn

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by melonhead » 25 Mar 2015 15:38

I think so
would probably have taken us back up, or close, by now

User avatar
WoodleyRoyal
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 5956
Joined: 16 Jun 2008 10:49
Location: when was the last time you did something for the first time?

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by WoodleyRoyal » 25 Mar 2015 15:47

melonhead I think so
would probably have taken us back up, or close, by now


problem was he never had a plan b, he would have been found out by now

User avatar
melonhead
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 14230
Joined: 30 Jul 2010 15:36
Location: on a thorn

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by melonhead » 25 Mar 2015 15:50

that's just nonsense

he had, and used plans A-Z
it just so happened that they all pragmatically had to suit the majority players he had at his disposal in the 1st team


User avatar
WoodleyRoyal
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 5956
Joined: 16 Jun 2008 10:49
Location: when was the last time you did something for the first time?

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by WoodleyRoyal » 25 Mar 2015 16:03

He had one management style and that was as a morale office, he just tried to get 11 happy and up for it players on the pitch, which of course is no bad thing, but it will only get you so far. He is the most tactically unaware manger we have had since bullivant. I Know it sounds harsh and he has achieved more than any other manager other than Coppell, 2 fa cup qf's and a promotion as champions, shouldn't be sniffed at. But still he was/is tactically unaware, and we will progress further as a club without him at the helm

User avatar
floyd__streete
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 8326
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 18:03
Location: ARREST RAY ILSLEY.

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by floyd__streete » 25 Mar 2015 16:28

Yeah, we're really tearing the place up without him :|

User avatar
tidus_mi2
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 7354
Joined: 15 Jun 2012 15:24

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by tidus_mi2 » 25 Mar 2015 17:28

floyd__streete Yeah, we're really tearing the place up without him :|

We've been at our worst in the aftermath of the AZ era, not a huge surprise there, we'll be able to offload some of the overpaid players from his reign this summer which will allow Clarke some flexibility to rebuild, the biggest factor here I figure, will be how much money the Thai's make available, obviously we're trying to stick to FFP but there is some flexibility allowed in there for owner investment.

User avatar
Ian Royal
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 35156
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 13:43
Location: Playing spot the pc*nt on HNA?

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Ian Royal » 25 Mar 2015 17:51

We were close to a shambles under McDermott at the end and it's more likely we'd have done no better, or worse because of a continued decline than under Adkins last season. There was a definite new manager freshness and bounce the next season after he left, if not as good a one as we'd wanted.

McDermott certainly would have had bugger all chance of doing a lot better this season with the state of the club's finances. The chances of him staying on to this season after a failed promotion push (or worse) would be pretty slim too.

Adkins is a similar case to Rodgers. Good manager, wrong time. In Rodgers case he needed more experience and to know how to adapt his methodology to his circumstances. There was just too much change at the time. It certainly didn't help him that his marquee signing was a total div who didn't get on board with his style or methods. In Adkins case, the finances and ownership saga killed any serious chance he had of being a success, especially after replacing McDermott with much of the fanbase not willing to cut him much slack for the perceived injustice against their hero.


sandman
Hob Nob Super-Addict
Posts: 12449
Joined: 01 Oct 2008 18:25
Location: Slaughterhouse soaked in blood and betrayal

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by sandman » 25 Mar 2015 18:10

You keep telling yourself that Ian.

SCIAG
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 6438
Joined: 17 Jun 2008 17:43
Location: Liburd for England

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by SCIAG » 25 Mar 2015 18:23

WoodleyRoyal He is the most tactically unaware manger we have had since bullivant. I Know it sounds harsh and he has achieved more than any other manager other than Coppell, 2 fa cup qf's and a promotion as champions, shouldn't be sniffed at. But still he was/is tactically unaware, and we will progress further as a club without him at the helm

He made some tactical mistakes in the Premier League - I'd strongly argue that we'd still be there if he'd started every match with 4-5-1 and Pearce and Mariappa at centre back - but he also successfully completely reinvented us three times. And he outmanoeuvred Adkins and Allardyce to win us the Championship.

Compare that with Rodgers and Burns during their time at the club, neither of whom managed to build a single successful side despite spending huge amounts of money.

SCIAG
Hob Nob Addict
Posts: 6438
Joined: 17 Jun 2008 17:43
Location: Liburd for England

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by SCIAG » 25 Mar 2015 18:23

Ian Royal In Rodgers case he needed more experience and to know how to adapt his methodology to his circumstances. There was just too much change at the time. It certainly didn't help him that his marquee signing was a total div who didn't get on board with his style or methods.

Harsh on McAnuff :shock:

User avatar
Ian Royal
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 35156
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 13:43
Location: Playing spot the pc*nt on HNA?

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Ian Royal » 25 Mar 2015 18:36

SCIAG
Ian Royal In Rodgers case he needed more experience and to know how to adapt his methodology to his circumstances. There was just too much change at the time. It certainly didn't help him that his marquee signing was a total div who didn't get on board with his style or methods.

Harsh on McAnuff :shock:


:lol:

I love Jobi, I'd never call him a div.

Man Friday
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 2856
Joined: 20 Nov 2005 13:45

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Man Friday » 25 Mar 2015 20:14

WoodleyRoyal He had one management style and that was as a morale office, he just tried to get 11 happy and up for it players on the pitch, which of course is no bad thing, but it will only get you so far. He is the most tactically unaware manger we have had since bullivant. I Know it sounds harsh and he has achieved more than any other manager other than Coppell, 2 fa cup qf's and a promotion as champions, shouldn't be sniffed at. But still he was/is tactically unaware, and we will progress further as a club without him at the helm

Talk about defeating your own argument! Reminds me of that Monty Python sketch..." public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what have the Romans ever done for us?"

AthleticoSpizz
Hob Nob Legend
Posts: 24397
Joined: 15 Apr 2004 19:49
Location: A Hicks Hoof from Coley Park

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by AthleticoSpizz » 25 Mar 2015 20:21

Like his predecessor, now it's his turn to sit back and enjoy our Wembley annihilation

Cureton's Volley
Hob Nob Regular
Posts: 1633
Joined: 08 Jan 2013 23:58

Re: Brian: The right decision?

by Cureton's Volley » 28 Apr 2015 22:59

No matter how shit it gets...

Remember how it felt to do thIs? 8)


3714 posts

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 126 guests

It is currently 11 Oct 2024 03:26