Clarke leaving after Saturday?

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by tee peg » 30 Apr 2015 14:10

Bang on and well put.

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by GH Royal » 30 Apr 2015 14:37

TBM Look into League One - i'm sure those banging in 15+ goals wouldn't have cost as much as Murray

When Wolves bought Afobe he had scored 10 in 22 apps.. He cost them around £2mill.... :?

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by TBM » 30 Apr 2015 14:56

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TBM Look into League One - i'm sure those banging in 15+ goals wouldn't have cost as much as Murray

When Wolves bought Afobe he had scored 10 in 22 apps.. He cost them around £2mill.... :?


There you go then....point proven

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by GH Royal » 30 Apr 2015 15:02

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TBM Look into League One - i'm sure those banging in 15+ goals wouldn't have cost as much as Murray

When Wolves bought Afobe he had scored 10 in 22 apps.. He cost them around £2mill.... :?


There you go then....point proven

Wouldn't it be point disproven?

Murray would of cost us in the region of £1mill-£2mill
You were asking for a League One striker who had scored 15+ - Afobe had scored 10
You said we were get this player cheaper than what we would of got Murray for, when Afobe would of been more expensive

Not having a go, simply stating.

Anyone know how much Eoin Doyle cost Cardiff?

He was banging them in, 21 goals in 26 apps in League One before he got signed. Currently on 2 goals in 13 apps for Cardiff.... Guess it doesn't always work out!

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by TBM » 30 Apr 2015 15:11

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TBM Look into League One - i'm sure those banging in 15+ goals wouldn't have cost as much as Murray

When Wolves bought Afobe he had scored 10 in 22 apps.. He cost them around £2mill.... :?

Wouldn't it be point disproven?

Murray would of cost us in the region of £1mill-£2mill
You were asking for a League One striker who had scored 15+ - Afobe had scored 10!


I'm talking about those who score 15+ goals a season - not before Christmas......


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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by melonhead » 30 Apr 2015 16:05

Pepe the Horseman
melonhead money was there.but for some reason murray decided hed just prefer to play regularly at his own club, in the premiere league instead of for a rubbish relegation threatened club in the championship.

agree we should have had other targets, but transfers are just hard, and sometimes don't come off. especially when the money isn't very much, and the club isn't very good.

That was obvious. That's why we shouldn't have wasted time trying to sign him. Just not buying the 'he hasn't had a striker' excuse, when he had a month to sort it out, but instead chased a player who we realistically weren't going to get, then signed Yakubu.

Murray was on high wages, and would've cost what, £1.5m-£2m? Plenty of money to have signed a decent striker at this level, even if we were languishing in the bottom half.


murray WAS on high wages, at another club. in the premiere league
he didn't come because we weren't offering anywhere near that, and wa convinced that hed get games in th eprem under new management.
we had other targets too, but clubs wanted more than we physically had.
we went further and further down the list, and ended up with yakubu


just cos Clarke hasn't published a ful llist of every striker he looked at, enquired after or put offers in for, doesn't mean that didn't happen

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by melonhead » 30 Apr 2015 16:07

andrew1957 When we had Afobe most on hear moaned about how crap he was. No doubt if we had paid 2M for him in January it would have been condemned as a shockingly bad buy. Most on here are never satisfied.

And frankly whether we end the season 17th or 21st has no bearing whatsoever on next season. Survival is survival. I would much prefer 21st and the cup run to 17th and no cup run. Clearly the players lost interest once we were safe and the cup became the sole focus. Once you lose focus it is very hard to get it back - hence the poor results since Arsenal. Although I am sure from what he said the other night that SC is genuinely angry with the general lack of resolve in the squad - hence many of the underperformers will go this summer.


I would certainly have been moaning and calling it a shocking buy :lol:

looked shit for us.
and 2 million on an unproven kid is a daft gamble, full stop
let alone when you almost went out of business a few months back.

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by TFF » 30 Apr 2015 20:30

Graham,

He says your website's rubbish

http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/footb ... ke-9155870

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by parky » 30 Apr 2015 20:36

http://footballleagueworld.co.uk/readin ... -the-club/

Possibly talking about this one so don't take it to heart Graham.


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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by RoyalBlue » 30 Apr 2015 21:42

TFF Graham,

He says your website's rubbish

http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/footb ... ke-9155870


Really starting to talk like he is feeling the pressure that he is rightly under.

Went for Dellor, Rodgers style, on Tuesday when Dellor rightly suggested that, given how things currently are, we might be fighting relegation next season.

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by Nameless » 30 Apr 2015 22:09

Dell or'so comment was a typically stupid remark for someone who pretty consistently hasn't a clue but thinks he is an expert because he has a degree in Sports Science.
Guessing what might happen next season before this season is over is utterly pointless.
I'd agree Clarke is under pressure, no way will he want to be at this end of the league but he's now got 3 months to make changes and plan a better season, which the core of the squad is quite capable of delivering

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by TBM » 30 Apr 2015 22:37

TFF Graham,

He says your website's rubbish

http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/footb ... ke-9155870


He didn't say It wasnt true tho

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 01 May 2015 07:10

Agreed, a straight denial would have stopped this talk.


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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by Elm Park Kid » 01 May 2015 09:32

“If you’ve got access to a rubbish website you can publish anything you want. I don’t have to make a quote on that.


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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by From Despair To Where? » 01 May 2015 12:05

GH Royal [Anyone know how much Eoin Doyle cost Cardiff?

He was banging them in, 21 goals in 26 apps in League One before he got signed. Currently on 2 goals in 13 apps for Cardiff.... Guess it doesn't always work out!


Doyle cost Cardiff something stupid like £400,000 but Chesterfield were talking in terms of a £1.5m + price tag so I presume there's other performance related clauses in place.

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by melonhead » 01 May 2015 12:14

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TFF Graham,

He says your website's rubbish

http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/footb ... ke-9155870




Went for Dellor, Rodgers style, on Tuesday when Dellor rightly suggested that, given how things currently are, we might be fighting relegation next season.


no he didn't.
just argued his point and questioned why hes mentioning relegation next year at all, let alone when this year still hasn't even finished.
fair comment imo

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by melonhead » 01 May 2015 12:15

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TFF Graham,

He says your website's rubbish

http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/footb ... ke-9155870




Went for Dellor, Rodgers style, on Tuesday when Dellor rightly suggested that, given how things currently are, we might be fighting relegation next season.


no he didn't.
just argued his point that things wouoldnt remain as they currently are, as hed just spent 5 minutes saying hed identified the problems and there would be big changes in the summer.
and questioned why hes mentioning relegation next year at all, let alone when this year still hasn't even finished.
fair comment imo

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by mikey0406 » 01 May 2015 12:27

Clarke has seen the squad now, what is available to him, the youngsters coming through and he also now has an idea of who needs to leave to fund his re-build. The squads that are likely to get promoted this season have all spent money, we have not at this level...really, and still have many players on high wages strangling what the manage can do? will there be some money available to Clarke in the summer?? who knows but its going to be a massive overhaul in order to turn this team from battling relegation to promotion contenders.

Clarke knew exactly what he was taking on, yes Yakubu was probably a last minute panic but what else was available with the money we had? if you was looking for a proven goalscorer on paper yakubu ticked the boxes but for whatever reason, guessing that his real age of 50 was the real reason, it has not worked.

Clarke knows he is likely to rely on freebies and loans to improve the squad. the relationship with Chelsea will be interesting as he has proven that they will play here and start.... a few youngsters again would improve the squad greatly

Clarke will not leave and he will be given time to turn this around but do not underestimate what a pre-season can do if allowed to change players they way he wants to

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by Man Friday » 01 May 2015 18:09

Snowball He (Murray) got 8 in 18 for us.

That's nearly as good a strike rate as ALF at struggling Bolton.
Oh yeah, I forgot, ALF's rubbish.

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Re: Clarke leaving after Saturday?

by SydenhamRoyal » 01 May 2015 19:01

mikey0406 Clarke has seen the squad now, what is available to him, the youngsters coming through and he also now has an idea of who needs to leave to fund his re-build. The squads that are likely to get promoted this season have all spent money, we have not at this level...really, and still have many players on high wages strangling what the manage can do? will there be some money available to Clarke in the summer?? who knows but its going to be a massive overhaul in order to turn this team from battling relegation to promotion contenders.

Clarke knew exactly what he was taking on, yes Yakubu was probably a last minute panic but what else was available with the money we had? if you was looking for a proven goalscorer on paper yakubu ticked the boxes but for whatever reason, guessing that his real age of 50 was the real reason, it has not worked.

Clarke knows he is likely to rely on freebies and loans to improve the squad. the relationship with Chelsea will be interesting as he has proven that they will play here and start.... a few youngsters again would improve the squad greatly

Clarke will not leave and he will be given time to turn this around but do not underestimate what a pre-season can do if allowed to change players they way he wants to


And WHEN he wants. If he signs them end of August he's lost pre-season. Club needs to act early and decisively (recognising that there are several parties to any deal who can delay things)

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