less prolific than Pog

[GH Royal]

Martin Butler - 103 Apps 32 Goals

That's better than Pog.

Just thought I'd give another example that's on a similar level, it's not better by that much!

[blueroyals]

But he works so hard!!!!!!!!!!!

[Geekins]

Les Ferdinand?

[RoyalBlue]

It makes a difference though, if you're part of a team where five or six top scorers get 10-15 apiece, or if you are one of only two strikers who would be expected to pop in 20+ goals each. If you're a lone striker and your only job is to tuck it into the back of the net, I'd say you've failed when you consistently can't hit a barn door from six yards out (I'm looking at you, Glenn Murray). Sure, he was lucky a few times, as was the Pog. But, in terms of expectations, the Russian has been disappointing. He should have scored more.

It would be interesting to see if - taking into account fees and wages - Pavel's goals have been the most expensive in Reading history.

But was Pog signed with the intention of playing him on a regular basis as a lone striker or as part of a strike force with the added benefit of his overall contribution to a team's play?

[From Despair To Where?]

These are only League stats but how about

Dean Horrix 158 games, 35 goals

Stuart Lovell 227 games, 58 goals

Leroy Lita 83 games 20 goals

Steve Moran 136 games 30 goals.

And to p[rove a point the other way, Ollie Kearns 86 games 40 goals and he really was shite

So yeah, absolutely loads of former Reading forwards with over 50 games who have a worse strike rate than Pog which kind of proves that statistics in isolation are complete bollocks

[DaddyKuhl]

Tony Rougier - 6 goals in 84 games (1 in 14).

[Coppelled_Streets]

Keith Scott? It still pains me that we signed him.

[AthleticoSpizz]

Ray Hiron, 92 games 14 goals

[Ian Royal]

STRAP!!!???

Where is your sexy little database when we need it.

[billybraggsbeard]

But no goals have been so expensive, whether he's on £40k or whatever a week, he's the biggest waste of money in our history, and please don't tell me he works so hard for the team that's the friggin least he can do as he doesn't score goals

[Snowball]

Appearances are meaningless. Goals per minute tells the story.

Shane had zillions of appearances of 1-2-3-4-5-6 minutes, for example.

Hunt had about two seasons where he came on for the last 25 minutes

[Dr_Hfuhruhurr]

Appearances are meaningless. Goals per minute tells the story.

Points Per Game would be my ultimate stat - which given that we've just finished 4 points above a Rotherham side, (who themselves were deducted three points), Im not holding my breath that Pog's is better than Hunt's.

[Ian Royal]

All stats are just indicators at best, that can skew reality if taken in isolation with no contextualisation.

Unusual circumstances at the extreme ends of the scale will always cause a problem with any stat based interpretation if you look solely at the stats.

[Mr Optimist]

What about Carla Asaba?

The man who was breaking in a pair of horse dentures and inexplicably went on to score bucket loads of goals for Gillingham when he looked like he couldn't hit a cows arse with a banjo in the hoops.

[Snowball]

A few players in goals/min order

Columns are apps, goals assists, total minutes, avg minutes, mins/goal, mins/goal or assist

051 22 11 03886 76 0177 118 GYLFI
154 58 08 11326 74 0195 171 KITSON
197 53 35 10981 56 0207 125 LONG

006 01 00 00217 36 0217 217 APPIAH
157 55 11 12700 81 0231 192 DOYLE
094 26 08 06311 67 0243 186 LITA
162 39 27 09517 59 0244 144 HUNT

122 23 06 05985 49 0260 206 CHURCH
106 28 07 07687 73 0275 220 POG
048 08 06 02869 60 0359 205 COX

011 01 00 00374 34 0374 374 Yakubu
085 09 03 03506 41 0390 292 Blackman

039 06 04 02398 61 0400 240 Mackie
193 25 19 10202 53 0408 232 HRK

190 31 45 14316 75 0462 188 KEBE
171 29 09 14667 86 0506 386 SIDWELL
024 02 00 01151 48 0576 576 BUTLER

110 12 26 07165 65 0597 189 McCleary
175 12 16 13356 76 1113 477 Karacan

[Snowball]

If you consider goals + assists you get

0177 118 GYLFI
0207 125 LONG
0244 144 HUNT

0195 171 KITSON
0243 186 LITA
0462 188 KEBE
0597 189 McCleary
0231 192 DOYLE

0359 205 COX
0260 206 CHURCH

0217 217 APPIAH
0275 220 POG

0408 232 HRK
0400 240 Mackie

0390 292 Blackman

0374 374 Yakubu
0506 386 SIDWELL
1113 477 Karacan
0576 576 BUTLER

[Snowball]

Pleased to see Hunt & Long so high, they were a brilliant partnership.

Hunt was seriously under-rated as his stats show.

Surprised to see Mackie so low.

[Royality creeps In]

I have been saying Pog is shite for months, however some of the muppets on this board begged to differ.

Apparently he works hard

[NewCorkSeth]

Which Hunt is that?

[Jagermesiter1871]

It makes a difference though, if you're part of a team where five or six top scorers get 10-15 apiece, or if you are one of only two strikers who would be expected to pop in 20+ goals each. If you're a lone striker and your only job is to tuck it into the back of the net, I'd say you've failed when you consistently can't hit a barn door from six yards out (I'm looking at you, Glenn Murray). Sure, he was lucky a few times, as was the Pog. But, in terms of expectations, the Russian has been disappointing. He should have scored more.

It would be interesting to see if - taking into account fees and wages - Pavel's goals have been the most expensive in Reading history.

Yes but equally you could say Pog has played in a side void of flair where chances have been at a premium. This wasn't the case for Hunt for example.