Summer Rebuild

[Coppelled_Streets]

Charles Watts gets a lot less 1-2-1 time with the club now and it shows in the reporting. Nothing against him, I prefer him to Fordham, but stories like this just feel like he's reaching for a story. Of course the club had discussions about a budget by now. You don't don't go releasing anyone until you know what you want to keep and what positions need filling. I suspect the meeting is nothing more than a progress update on transfer targets and contract situations. Maybe throw a few more names at each other for who they might like to come in, not forgetting coaching staff.

[mumbo-jumbo]

Could it not be that Clarke etc attend the board meeting with their shopping list in hand, meaning a budget meeting then becomes more meaningful, not less, as the board will know what kind of figures are realistically required rather than hypothetical?

[Sutekh]

Could it not be that Clarke etc attend the board meeting with their shopping list in hand, meaning a budget meeting then becomes more meaningful, not less, as the board will know what kind of figures are realistically required rather than hypothetical?

That's what I'm hoping. First discussions immediately after the season finished to set ball park expectations and confirm comings and goings amongst the current squad.

Next SC/NH meeting with players and agents to see where they stand in terms of what is actually wanted out in the real world by their various targets.

Then, next week, a further discussion with the board to advise what is required using more specific figures and spell out what the management feel the ramifications will be if you do this rather than that etc.

[Norfolk Royal]

Charles Watts gets a lot less 1-2-1 time with the club now and it shows in the reporting. Nothing against him, I prefer him to Fordham, but stories like this just feel like he's reaching for a story. Of course the club had discussions about a budget by now. You don't don't go releasing anyone until you know what you want to keep and what positions need filling. I suspect the meeting is nothing more than a progress update on transfer targets and contract situations. Maybe throw a few more names at each other for who they might like to come in, not forgetting coaching staff.

Exactly, budget discussions are ongoing as they would be in any business I would think.

[Hoop Blah]

Charles Watts gets a lot less 1-2-1 time with the club now and it shows in the reporting. Nothing against him, I prefer him to Fordham, but stories like this just feel like he's reaching for a story. Of course the club had discussions about a budget by now. You don't don't go releasing anyone until you know what you want to keep and what positions need filling. I suspect the meeting is nothing more than a progress update on transfer targets and contract situations. Maybe throw a few more names at each other for who they might like to come in, not forgetting coaching staff.

Exactly, budget discussions are ongoing as they would be in any business I would think.

You'd hope so, and I can't believe Clarke doesn't have the backing to get some business done early as he wants.

As for it not being an issue IF it is true, as tidus suggests, well that's rubbish. In reality clubs are, and have been for a while, talking to players and their agents right now to tie down deals. We can't afford to be a few weeks behind the game if we're looking to decent attract players, especially those who are about to be without a club.

[tidus_mi2]

Charles Watts gets a lot less 1-2-1 time with the club now and it shows in the reporting. Nothing against him, I prefer him to Fordham, but stories like this just feel like he's reaching for a story. Of course the club had discussions about a budget by now. You don't don't go releasing anyone until you know what you want to keep and what positions need filling. I suspect the meeting is nothing more than a progress update on transfer targets and contract situations. Maybe throw a few more names at each other for who they might like to come in, not forgetting coaching staff.

Exactly, budget discussions are ongoing as they would be in any business I would think.

You'd hope so, and I can't believe Clarke doesn't have the backing to get some business done early as he wants.

As for it not being an issue IF it is true, as tidus suggests, well that's rubbish. In reality clubs are, and have been for a while, talking to players and their agents right now to tie down deals. We can't afford to be a few weeks behind the game if we're looking to decent attract players, especially those who are about to be without a club.

We clearly are talking to players if reports are to believed, the big rumour of course being McShane, what I suggested is we're not going out and agreeing transfer fees early because we've had to get through our contracts, work out what we need as a priority before we spend limited funds.

We've not got the flexibility of other clubs, most notably Premier League clubs.

[John Smith]

Charles Watts gets a lot less 1-2-1 time with the club now and it shows in the reporting. Nothing against him, I prefer him to Fordham, but stories like this just feel like he's reaching for a story. Of course the club had discussions about a budget by now. You don't don't go releasing anyone until you know what you want to keep and what positions need filling. I suspect the meeting is nothing more than a progress update on transfer targets and contract situations. Maybe throw a few more names at each other for who they might like to come in, not forgetting coaching staff.

Charles Watts is an Arsenal fan, therefore anything he says or does has absolutely no value to me whatsoever. May he be shunned by the club for as long as he is employed in that role.

[Hoop Blah]

We've not got the flexibility of other clubs, most notably Premier League clubs.

We're not, presumably, competing with Premier League clubs though. If the report is to believed (and I don't think it is) and we don't have budget in place it's a problem and far too late in the day to be setting budgets down.

It's not too late in the day to be trying to evolve those budgets or tweak the strategy based on the players leaving or conversations we're having with some of our targets, but to think it's fine for the manager not to have a clue as to what his budget is at this stage is a little bizarre.

[floyd__streete]

they scout the players, they can estimate how much a player is worth and have that all on record, if it turns out later that the budget won't allow for a player then they can't go for him.

What if another club - y'know, one which had already decided its budget for 2015/16 - gets in first while we are awaiting the outcome of our own meeting We appear to be fiddling whilst Rome burns.

[Ian Royal]

It's not particulalry credible, but it's just one more negative piece of news helping to nail closed the coffin lid of our chances neXt season.

[Forbury Lion]

A manager would have input into the budget, He may decide that we need to sign a goalkeeper and a decent one will cost us £x then that will be built into the budget.... Sure there may be some discussions about whether we can save some money here or there and they may decide they can't afford a decent one, so perhaps a half decent one will do.

The manager/DoF have to determine what signings are required to achieve the objectives set out by the board, that's the second part of budget process, the first part is the board telling them what the objectives are - Different players/cost required for a title push versus avoiding relegation.

[Royal Rother]

I guess the reality is that Clarke may not want to start using up his budget signing new players when he doesn't know who is going to be leaving / staying.

E.g. if Pearce had ended up staying he wouldn't need to use up some of his budget on a CD, and might therefore be able to use more funds to get a better player in a different position than would otherwise have been the case.

It's not ideal but when funds are tight and FFP looms you have to play a bit of a waiting game.

I wouldn't be surprised if until recently Clarke's main focus on incoming players had been to get some deals lined up on the extended term loan market.

We shall see.

[maffff]

We appear to be fiddling whilst Rome burns.

"...we're on fire, lets build some hydrants..."

[linkenholtroyal]

Do you think we may be able to offload Blackman and Akpan to Adkins at Sheffield he was always an admirer of the pair might even get some money for them, 2 million for the pair would be gd, go towards a decent striker

[Pepe the Horseman]

He didn't rate Akpan at all.

[WoodleyRoyal]

Do you think we may be able to offload Blackman and Akpan to Adkins at Sheffield he was always an admirer of the pair might even get some money for them, 2 million for the pair would be gd, go towards a decent striker

2 mill are you on the windup? doubt we would get 500k for the pair

[linkenholtroyal]

good enough salesman and we could sell ice to the inuits, just show that one long range goal against Swansea to them for blackman. and just say that akpan is the next yaya toure sorted

[WoodleyRoyal]

good enough salesman and we could sell ice to the inuits, just show that one long range goal against Swansea to them for blackman. and just say that akpan is the next yaya toure sorted

literally the most racist thing ever written

[linkenholtroyal]

OK HES THE NEXT STEVEN GERRARD OR IS THAT RACIST TO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[John Smith]

Do you think we may be able to offload Blackman and Akpan to Adkins at Sheffield he was always an admirer of the pair might even get some money for them, 2 million for the pair would be gd, go towards a decent striker

Blackman came from Sheff United didn't he...I think this could happen, and I'd fully support it too