Summer Rebuild

[mambo3]

I don't see clubs coming in with money for any of our so called 1st Team Players so im wondering where are we going to find the funds to buy other players that are basically out of work that are of any quality, I suppose we can buy for the "short Term" but that's wasting money.

Better off using any money to secure the young players future with READING.

[floyd__streete]

I don't see clubs coming in with money for any of our so called 1st Team Players

That is because they've been allowed to leave on a free as we didn't even attempt to renew their contracts until the last minute. Whatever you may think about the departure of Federici & Pearce and the inevitable loss of Karacan they will not be easily or cheaply replaced. Sure, they inherited what we are informed was a shambles under TSI (welcomed unquestioning by our supporters, remember) but I can't see any particular signs of improvement in the way the club has been run under the Thais given they had almost a year to attempt to tie key players down to new deals.

Of course, many will still be suffering from RFC Supporter Stockholm Syndrome and a belief that the club is languishing in an arid cashless waste ground as AZ had marble staircases installed in the Hotel and dancing girls performing in the directors lounge and the poor Thais are just the innocent victims of a Russian tax write-off.

[Royal Rother]

I'm not really sure what the club can do in this situation.

If Pearce and Co were on £20k pw with parachute payments running out - what can Reading offer them?

A 2 year extension sometime during last season on money that the club can afford whilst also not potentially falling foul of FFP might have put them on £12k pw (even that would be high for the Championship).

Put yourselves in his position - would your agent advise you to take that, or would he / she say "Tell you what, carry on taking £20k pw for the rest of the season, run your contract down and we'll be in a lovely position to negotiate with a new club to pay YOU a nice lump sum instead of Reading FC. Or maybe they'll pay you the £20k pw and get you for nothing, you leave that to me. One way or the other, you're done at Reading because if you take a drop in pay at this stage of your career - you'll never get it back up."

[RG30]

With the imminent departure of Jem, that's almost the spine of the team decimated. Worrying times ahead. Pre-season training can't be far away now.

[Coppelled_Streets]

With the imminent departure of Jem, that's almost the spine of the team decimated. Worrying times ahead. Pre-season training can't be far away now.

It would be easier to accept if the club were open and honest and explained that cutting the wage bill was the first priority, but we're still fed bullshite about getting promoted.. It may well be a case of getting the players out first, then establish the budget and bring in whatever we can with what money is made available, but I can see us relying heavily on the kids, a couple of loans and maybe three perm signings, free transfers or small fee's. If that proves to be the case, then I fancy bottom three next season. We're still missing coaching staff ffs. Just too much to do on a small budget IMO.

[Royal Rother]

Calm down, no-one knows what's going on internally - just stop getting in a tizzy.

Oh and when did they last talk about getting promoted?

[Coppelled_Streets]

:lol: Calm down, no-one knows what's going on internally - just stop getting in a tizzy.

Oh and when did they last talk about getting promoted?

You only need to go back a couple of months, talking about what Clarke brings (they made a point about bring the kids through) and the usual 'ambitions' about getting back into the Premier League. We are a long way from that.

[Hoop Blah]

Spot on with your post RR, the club can't just go throwing money around that it doesn't have and a player isn't going to sign a contract when they know they're likely to be able to better it. That stands for half way through this season or last summer.

Both Pearce and Federici signed new deals previous to that and were destined to run those down unless we went up again. Karacan has been injured for two years and so the club have probably done the most they can do there too.

As for the club being honest, I'm no club apologist, but ever since Zingaravich disappeared everything that's come out of the club has been about living within our means and not transgressing the FFP rules. Sure they still want to build a squad capable of a promotion challenge but they're not going to spunk money they don't have to do so.

[linkenholtroyal]

Quote me if I am wrong but Pearce, Federici and Karacn have gone or seem like they are going, apparently someone is interested in Hal and also someone Is willing to take Pog off our hands. So surely our wage bill if this was to happen would have dropped by a third to a half.... so surely this would mean we would have enough space to swing a lion let alone a cat within FFP. If this is so we must start signing players soon??

[Who Moved The Goalposts?]

Agree with both RR an Hoop Blah, but it doesn't stop me worrying about our fate next season. I think we'll be bottom three all season - I really can't see our squad being that much better than Blackpool's was.

Whether this is the managed decline some on here have suggested or part of a painful-but-necessary process to put us back on an even keel, it doesn't bode well.

Regarding being panicked, I'm not. I just feel sorry for all those who have shelled out 1/40 of HRK's rumoured weekly wage to watch yet another season of struggle.

[Hoop Blah]

Quote me if I am wrong but Pearce, Federici and Karacn have gone or seem like they are going, apparently someone is interested in Hal and also someone Is willing to take Pog off our hands. So surely our wage bill if this was to happen would have dropped by a third to a half.... so surely this would mean we would have enough space to swing a lion let alone a cat within FFP. If this is so we must start signing players soon??

Probably, or maybe hopefully is more accurate, yes.

That doesn't mean we have the cash to extend ourselves to the limits of FFP though (whatever they are these days I don't know).

It also doesn't change the past and the restrictions we have been operating under which have led to the loss of players who've been commanding our highest wages (although we still have Pogrenbnyak and Williams).

[Nameless]

PistolPete
Your list is interesting but misses out quite a few players so looks thinner than it is. I appreciate Stacey, Fosu, Long, Tanner, Novacovic et all are not established but they will be part of the squad again next season, and are all good players just lacking experience as yet.
I'd query your rating of Cooper and Kuhl as Div 1 or below ! Kuhl is as good as Norwood already IMHO and will be better by some way,
Small points but a selective listing of players, including some and not others for no apparent reason doesn't give a full picture. Debate as to how rosy that picture is is of course a different matter....

[linkenholtroyal]

We gotta hope though. Also I had heard we still has first refusal on kwesi appiah for 1 million or a season long loan and 1.5 if we choose to buy at the end of that, personally I'd take the loan if pog goes even if we get sa he is another option. I'd like to play Samuel and appiah together imagine the explosive pace up front

[WoodleyRoyal]

We gotta hope though. Also I had heard we still has first refusal on kwesi appiah for 1 million or a season long loan and 1.5 if we choose to buy at the end of that, personally I'd take the loan if pog goes even if we get sa he is another option. I'd like to play Samuel and appiah together imagine the explosive pace up front

Cruciate knee injury m9 http://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/article/crys ... 84943.aspx we won't see him for a while

[linkenholtroyal]

We gotta hope though. Also I had heard we still has first refusal on kwesi appiah for 1 million or a season long loan and 1.5 if we choose to buy at the end of that, personally I'd take the loan if pog goes even if we get sa he is another option. I'd like to play Samuel and appiah together imagine the explosive pace up front

Cruciate knee injury m9 http://www.cpfc.co.uk/news/article/crys ... 84943.aspx we won't see him for a while

Ouch that's a shame

[percy_freeman]

Not going too well is it? SC saying he wan'ts to get his business done early wasn't the best thing to say either......

[Ian Royal]

With the imminent departure of Jem, that's almost the spine of the team decimated. Worrying times ahead. Pre-season training can't be far away now.

It would be easier to accept if the club were open and honest and explained that cutting the wage bill was the first priority, but we're still fed bullshite about getting promoted.. It may well be a case of getting the players out first, then establish the budget and bring in whatever we can with what money is made available, but I can see us relying heavily on the kids, a couple of loans and maybe three perm signings, free transfers or small fee's. If that proves to be the case, then I fancy bottom three next season. We're still missing coaching staff ffs. Just too much to do on a small budget IMO.

TBF if you have even half a brain cell it should be blindingly obvious that's the first priority.

I'm pretty sure they've said it's a priority too. Just not every bloody day to satisfy the goldfish memoried News24 brigade.

And wanting to get back to the PL and cutting the wage budget aren't mutually exclusive. In fact, to be honest, we've got bugger all chance of the former until we've done the latter.

I share Goat's concerns about next season and lament the loss of Pearce and Federici. But we're a victim of circum(Zingaravich)stance. It doesn't help when Clarke comes out with bobbins comments like "We'll be no where near relegation next season" and "I know exactly what the problem is and I won't be taking a holiday so I can get straight on with sorting it". I'd point out that pretty much all the expectation raising (which no one should take seriously anyway) is coming from him, not the owners. Well, everything I've seen anyway.

[PistolPete]

PistolPete
Your list is interesting but misses out quite a few players so looks thinner than it is. I appreciate Stacey, Fosu, Long, Tanner, Novacovic et all are not established but they will be part of the squad again next season, and are all good players just lacking experience as yet.
I'd query your rating of Cooper and Kuhl as Div 1 or below ! Kuhl is as good as Norwood already IMHO and will be better by some way,
Small points but a selective listing of players, including some and not others for no apparent reason doesn't give a full picture. Debate as to how rosy that picture is is of course a different matter....

It's a fair point, but my list was never going to be unanimously agreed upon. I have HUGE hopes for Kuhl and I think he could become a premier league player, but now he's a league one player...probably. Stacey, Fosu etc have barely played first team football (Watford away doesn't count!). Cooper looks good, I'd agree, he'd borderline I suppose.

I've tried to include players who are league 1 standard at lowest, there's no point adding players to the squad if they're quite simply not up to it - and my opinion is that our U21s are not.

[Ian Royal]

How many times have you seen them play?

[P!ssed Off]

Perhaps the Thais might like to invest some of the money they received from Bangkok Bank PCL when they mortgaged the hotel in February?

Or is that money earmarked for Samrit's legal defence team?



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