1st 30 league games in charge

[strap]

Just having a lazy meander around the database and put this out there for no other reason than I can ...

Only 22 out of our 52 managers/mangerial teams (including caretakers), have managed to amass 30 or more league games in the chair. The reason for this cut-off point is simply that the win at Brentford was Clarke's 30th league game for us.

Of those 22, Clarke comes in as the 21st most succesful, with a points per game record of 1.033, (using 3 points for a win).



Clarke has also had 8 Knock-out Cup games under his belt, and when these are added to his League games, his record over 38 games is much better, and he even boasts the highest number of away wins in any of our managers' first 38 League and Cup games in charge. Even so, he is only 16th out of 23 based on PPG after 38 League and Cup games. Impressed with his away record, but needs to do something about the home games.



Use as you will.

(Apologies, have resized the images to fit onto the screen width - may be a bit hard to see).

[Royal Ginger]

Sucks to be Jack Smith...

[Ian Royal]

Ooof, below Terry the Taxi in both measures.

Hang on, where's McDermott on the list?

And more than half our managers haven't made a full season? Are you sure you're querying the old beast correctly?

[PistolPete]

Yeah, was also wondering about McDermott?

[JIM]

who cares ? Its this season,with his chosen team that counts. Last season he and Adkins had all the rubbish forced on them by the Russian, now judge him on this seasons results.
Delete forced add inherited

[RG30]

If rumours are to be believed then the only player last season "forced" on Adkins was Ferdinand.

Clarke will come good. He's shown in the one-off games he can tactically get it right. The summer recruitment this year from those that have played (Quinn, Sa, McShane) look to have complimented our squad although we still look poor in goal.

[strap]

Ooof, below Terry the Taxi in both measures.

Hang on, where's McDermott on the list?

And more than half our managers haven't made a full season? Are you sure you're querying the old beast correctly?

I think the old beast has decided to wipe BMcD from its memory! I will take a big stick to it and find out why! As for only having 23 of our managers being in charge for 38 games or more, "tis true I tells ye" - see the list below of managers' games totals since we entered the league in 1920.

[Ian Royal]

Ah, fair enough, that's a lot of caretakers.

That's equally a lot of managers with over 100 games. Just goes to shows in the last 20 years we're committed to give managers time. Only Rodgers and Bullivant haven't made a full season, and Bullivant still got 50 games. Shows how terrible we were under Rodgers. Can Clarke make it past Bullivant?

[strap]

Many thanks for spotting McDermott AWOL. Had to coach the old beast with a bit of raw meat, but found the gremlin, His 1 match stint as caretaker was over-writing his later longer stint. Indeed, his 1st 30 league games record puts him at number 1 on a PPG basis - so a serious omission, for which profuse apologies, not least to BMcD.







For the eagle-eyed, I have also removed Harry J Matthews from the list as he was Secretary/Manager in our SL days.

[Royal Monk]

Its an outrage that Micky Godding isnt mentioned in the list ..... SORT IT OUT

[Ian Royal]

I petition that you change the entry to Mick Quinn, Jimmy Gooding or Quinn Gooding strap.

[Hoop Blah]

If rumours are to be believed then the only player last season "forced" on Adkins was Ferdinand.

Clarke will come good. He's shown in the one-off games he can tactically get it right. The summer recruitment this year from those that have played (Quinn, Sa, McShane) look to have complimented our squad although we still look poor in goal.

They were both still dealing with the after effects of the regime, ie restrictive wages, disruptive characters, unbalanced squad and a business without stability and leadership.

That's not the recipe for success.

[Ian Royal]

If rumours are to be believed then the only player last season "forced" on Adkins was Ferdinand.

Clarke will come good. He's shown in the one-off games he can tactically get it right. The summer recruitment this year from those that have played (Quinn, Sa, McShane) look to have complimented our squad although we still look poor in goal.

They were both still dealing with the after effects of the regime, ie restrictive wages, disruptive characters, unbalanced squad and a business without stability and leadership.

That's not the recipe for success.

Agreed. And it doesn't have to be a new signing to be a player forced on you, it can be a player previously signed that you can't get rid of.

[strap]

I petition that you change the entry to Mick Quinn, Jimmy Gooding or Quinn Gooding strap.

Pleasure ...

[Mr Angry]

It would be interesting to see Alex Ferguson's record after 30 League games in charge of Man Utd.

From a Reading perspective, did the 30 game ppg figures equate across the whole of the reign of each Manager, or were there significant increases/decreases?

Also, why have the games that a guy had as caretaker not been included in his totals? I know Pards had a single caretaker game (iirc, a defeat to Huddersfield albeit it a much better performance) then came back some time later as Manager, but Maccy D's caretaker spell didn't set the World alight did it? Include those 8 games at the start of his 30 and his ppg ratio comes down.

[Sanguine]

7 goals in 15 home league games is the massive issue that needs to be resolved.

[strap]

It would be interesting to see Alex Ferguson's record after 30 League games in charge of Man Utd.

From a Reading perspective, did the 30 game ppg figures equate across the whole of the reign of each Manager, or were there significant increases/decreases?

Also, why have the games that a guy had as caretaker not been included in his totals? I know Pards had a single caretaker game (iirc, a defeat to Huddersfield albeit it a much better performance) then came back some time later as Manager, but Maccy D's caretaker spell didn't set the World alight did it? Include those 8 games at the start of his 30 and his ppg ratio comes down.

All good points. I can't comment on Ferguson's first games. With regard to our managers and caretaker roles, I treat these as separate spells as they are on trial and generally do not get any fiancial backing until they are permanently in charge.

It's like players who come on loan before signing permanently. I treat these as two distinct spells.

I have updated the 38 game League/Cup/Play-off game list, and corrected for the two different Jack Smiths we had in charge. I have then also shown the PPG for all managers 1st 38 games in charge and the PPG at the end of their reign. Not sure how much that can be read into this, but it's a bit of fun whilst watching Clarke sell off our future.





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