Loans

[URZZZZZ]

With all these loans we have coming in where does it leave you at the end of the season when they all return to their parent club.

Let's say we have a brilliant season, all the loan players perform and each individually show their worth. Come the end of the season when they all return and move on to bigger and better things, where does that leave us??
Back to square 1

[Pepe the Horseman]

Cross that bridge when we come to it. Worked out ok for Watford. And if they get us promoted, I'm sure there'd be a good chance of signing them permanently, or at least on loan for another year.

[Platypuss]

Fold the club!

[Nameless]

We've got 3 loans haven't we ?
One with a view to a perm and another that's cover and would probably convert to a perm if we wanted.
Last season we had 3 loan players in the Wembley team and had at least 2 others during the season.
So we're down on loans currently, can replace them with other loans if needed and buy ourselves another year for the likes of Tishbola, Fosu, Stacey, Kuhl etc to develop.

[Lacoste]

CW talking about a further two loans coming in today.

Would prefer permanent signings.

Surely we still have the Beric money?

Reading are hoping to wrap up moves for at least two players on deadline day.

The club are working hard to push through a foreign deal, which getreading.co.uk believes to be for Benfica winger Ola John.

The 23-year-old Netherlands international moved to Portugal in 2012, joining from FC Twente for a fee of around £10 million.

But he has struggled to hold down a regular starting spot at the Estádio da Luz and he spent part of the 2013/14 season on loan with German side Hamburg.

John returned to Benfica last season and made 28 league appearances, scoring three goals. He also bagged the winner in the league cup final success against Maritimo.

But despite that, the Portuguese champions are still wiling to let the attacker leave and Royals are hopeful of concluding a loan deal before this evening’s 6pm deadline.

Steve Clarke is also keen to add a new frontman to his squad today, with Bournemouth’s South Africa international Tokelo Rantie on the radar.

The 24-year-old joined the Cherries in 2013 but currently finds himself down the pecking order at the Goldsands due to the superb form of Callum Wilson.


Tokelo Rantie charges at the Cardiff City defence Bournemouth's Tokelo Rantie is a target for Reading.

It is understood Reading are pursuing a possible one-year loan for Rantie, who cost Bournemouth around £2.5m two years ago.

But Clarke, who completed the signing of Chelsea star Lucas Piazon yesterday, is also keeping a watchful eye on Matej Vydra’s situation at Watford.

The Czech frontman could be allowed to leave Vicarage Road today, with the Hornets set to announce the signing of Victor Ibarbo from Roma.

Should Vydra, who Clarke worked with at West Brom, become available, Royals could launch a bid to bring him to Madejski Stadium for the season.

But they will face stiff competition for the frontman, who has yet to feature for Watford in the Premier League under Quique Sánchez Flores, with Sheffield Wednesday, Nottingham Forest and Fulham all said to be keen.

Reading also have an interest in Walsall forward Tom Bradshaw, who has scored 25 times in his last 44 appearances, although the 23-year-old is expected to remain with the Saddlers.

[Nameless]

I'd be more concerned at using up our loan allocation too early leaving us with less flexibility later in the season.
Loan deals are a way of life now. Better for a season than short term, there's not really much difference between signing a player on a perm compared to a season long loan and it does limit your exposure if the signing doesn't work. In hindsight Drenthe on a loan would have been preferable (although not signing him would have been better )

[Pepe the Horseman]

What is the loan limit in a matchday squad?

[Turns8]

What is the loan limit in a matchday squad?

I think it's 5 per matchday squad...

[Nameless]

Is it 7 loans in a season as well ?

[Nameless]

I hope these loans have been written to cover through to the playoff final.
IIRC some of our loan players wouldn't have been able to play in the FA cup final last season due to the loan period expiring and not been extendable

[Willos]

Was thinking the exactly same thing as the OP, hoping that a few of these loans have an agreed purchase price at the end of the loan stint if things work out well.

Either way great business by the club thus far especially is the holy grail for a decent forward has a happy ending.

Exciting times.

[JIM]

No problem with loans, If they are any good we get promotion, then we buy them . If no good they leave at the end of contract,
On hindsight we should have done that with Pog and the Real Madrid failure . The club would have been better off financially .

[Platypuss]

http://www.football-league.co.uk/global/section6.aspx

52.2.1 A maximum of 5 loan Players (Standard, International, Emergency or Youth) can be named in the Players listed on a team sheet for any individual match played under the auspices of The League. This figure shall include any additional loan of a goalkeeper approved by the Executive under the provisions of Regulation 54.

52.2.2 No Club may sign more than 4 loan Players (Standard, International, Emergency or Youth) from another Club (or club) in any Season. An additional Youth Loan Player may be added to this figure.

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53.2.5 A Loaning Club can have a maximum of 4 Players under 23 and a further 4 Players over 23 registered on a Standard Loan during any Season. The deadline for determining a Player’s age in this respect shall be 30 June prior to the Season in which the Standard Loan is intended to take place.

[SCIAG]

No problem with loans, If they are any good we get promotion, then we buy them . If no good they leave at the end of contract,
On hindsight we should have done that with Pog and the Real Madrid failure . The club would have been better off financially .

Both players were free agents, so there was nobody to take them on loan from. We could have tried to get them to sign one-year contracts, but then Pog would probably have joined Fulham and if either of them had joined then we would have lost them if they did well.

I've got no problem taking on loan players to hold down a place for a year whilst players develop (Mackie), to massively improve us (Bertrand, Upson, Murray), if it's basically a trial period to bring in a huge improvement (Legs, Little), or to cover injuries or provide a buffer when no young player is suitable (Taylor).

I do have a problem when we play another club's young players ahead of our own without seeing any benefit on the pitch. Chalobah ahead of Kuhl (or even Norwood), Afobe ahead of Samuel, potentially Piazon ahead of Fosu/Tanner/Stacey and Alex ahead of Tshibola.

Fortunately, in those later cases, if things don't work out then we can always use the young players. The risk is that they make themselves undroppable, but results don't improve, and so our young players stall and are less ready in a year.

[JIM]

Apart from your location. I agree, as things stand, this is going to be a great season, New players new owners. new ideas, THATS BOOKING GREAT

[SCIAG]

Apart from your location. I agree,

My location is a comment a particularly vocal user made shortly before Orlando Sa scored his first goal for Reading. It does not reflect my own opinion.

[Samrfc01]

To be fair the only loan signing we've made that we probably won;t be able to make permanent is Lucas Piazon. But then if we go up, we'll be able to have him again i'm sure.

Taylor and Alex could probably be easily made permanent if we wanted them.

As long as they improve the squad i'm all for it.

[Maguire]

There's a long history of loan signings playing massive roles in Championship clubs' seasons and nobody will be complaining if they're successful.

[Pepe the Horseman]

Zakly. My only beef is if we have too many to play at the same time. Is there some kind of rule that means you can have a certain amount of UK based loanees and a certain amount of foreigners?

[CountryRoyal]

Wouldn't have a problem with signing any of those players mooted on loan. Bar Rantie and Bradshaw a permanent deal for them wouldnt be possible.

My only concern with us being linked with a left sided attacker is that GMac could be off, which would be a massive oxf*rd kick in the balls.