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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by Hoop Blah » 04 Dec 2015 14:32

Right wing, as in a right sided attacker who isn't a right midfielder.

He was on the right, as an attacking player with, as you say, licence to come in and do what he's always done, play for himself and try and work a shot pretty much every time he had the ball.

Call it what you like, my point was that he wasn't playing through the middle apart from the odd occasion. The rest is semantics.

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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by sandman » 04 Dec 2015 14:34

Libertine I always thought Clarke only looked at Reading as a stepping stone to get a bigger job. Part of that process though would have been being successful here first. Which he wasn't.

I am not really fond of the managerial merry-go-round the past few seasons but this one the board had no choice on. He lost the faith of the board, the players and the fans. He had to go...just hoping we can finally hire someone who is committed to Reading and not another mercenary.


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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by Ian Royal » 04 Dec 2015 14:35

Hoop Blah Right wing, as in a right sided attacker who isn't a right midfielder.

He was on the right, as an attacking player with, as you say, licence to come in and do what he's always done, play for himself and try and work a shot pretty much every time he had the ball.

Call it what you like, my point was that he wasn't playing through the middle apart from the odd occasion. The rest is semantics.


Ok, I don't think it's particularly semantics, but as your overall point certainly stands I can go with it.

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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by Libertine » 04 Dec 2015 14:58

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Libertine I always thought Clarke only looked at Reading as a stepping stone to get a bigger job. Part of that process though would have been being successful here first. Which he wasn't.

I am not really fond of the managerial merry-go-round the past few seasons but this one the board had no choice on. He lost the faith of the board, the players and the fans. He had to go...just hoping we can finally hire someone who is committed to Reading and not another mercenary.


Everyone in the game is mercenary.


I get that. But not everyone to the extent Clarke was. I got the impression from him, from day 1, that he thought the Reading job was beneath him and he was already aiming higher.

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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by Dr_Hfuhruhurr » 04 Dec 2015 15:02

Its been a case of ‘be careful what you wish for’ on here this week as every call for the manager’s head seemed to ignore the price tag attached to it. But if the Thais have the money, then let them do it, get angry about the financial implications for the evening, and then wake up and see it as an opportunity and put it all in the past. I will say that if he ends up at Fulham, then we’ve been royally played by someone (not sure whom) and Clarke will end up our least popular manager of the modern era.
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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by melonhead » 04 Dec 2015 15:02

of course he was. there is no manager on earth who is out there eying the reading job as the future pinnacle of his career.

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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by Ian Royal » 04 Dec 2015 15:07

Of course Brendy, but many do actually commit to it. I agree with Libertine. It always felt like Clarke thought he was slumming it until someone took him back to his rightful level in the PL.


I really hope Clarke goes to Fulham - a) because he's shit and b) because it'll add a little spice to the fixture for the next 12 months.

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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by tidus_mi2 » 04 Dec 2015 15:08

melonhead of course he was. there is no manager on earth who is out there eying the reading job as the future pinnacle of his career.

Parky maybe?

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by Lacoste » 04 Dec 2015 15:11

Dr_Hfuhruhurr Its been a case of ‘be careful what you wish for’ on here this week as every call for the manager’s head seemed to ignore the price tag attached to it. But if the Thais have the money, then let them do it, get angry about the financial implications for the evening, and then wake up and see it as an opportunity and put it all in the past. I will say that if he ends up at Fulham, then we’ve been royally played by someone (not sure whom) and Clarke will end up our least popular manager of the modern era.
Its moments like this that I wish that if we were going to be crap for three years, we should have been crap with Brian. Thanks Anton.


Don't forget that as soon as Clarke walks into a new job, our payments to him stop as long as what the new club are paying him matches what we were paying him. If the new club are paying him less, we only have to make up the short fall.

There is no way we will have to pay up the whole contract.

This is why Sven stayed out of management for so long after England.


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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by Silver Fox » 04 Dec 2015 15:15

I was also under the impression that was the case with compo, and even if he doesn't go straight to Fulham without passing go the board can afford to pay

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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by Bonfire Boy » 04 Dec 2015 15:16

Not been able to to the Mad stad for a while (not from round 'ere) and can honestly say it was the worst game I've seen, I include witnessing a 4-1 thrashing by Bristol City many years ago in that. QPR were shockingly bad to, but the Reading players lacked passion, dare I say effort to, and the whole thing just felt wrong. Seemed to sum up Steve Clarke in fact, dour, uninteresting & passionless. Fans seemed totally apathetic towards Clarke, no atmosphere whatsoever, aimless long ball football & not a shot on target in 90 mins didn't help! I'm surprised there was 16'000 in there & no doubt crowds would've dropped further without this action being taken . The club have got this right, no question in my mind. Get Pearson in & put some fight back in the place, players need to share responsibility to & how we miss Quinn & Tshibola. Positives were Fernandez, HRK & John.

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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by strap » 04 Dec 2015 15:16

melonhead of course he was. there is no manager on earth who is out there eying the reading job as the future pinnacle of his career.


Apropros nothing at all - I note that the last 2 judas's we employed have never gone on to manage more club games at any one club than they have with us. (Fat Scottish Bastard managed 183 games with us, his next best was 163 at Millwall. Parjudas managed us for 212 games, his next best was Newcastle for 185 games).

The Scottish Charlatan has just managed to beat that little record by "managing" 60 games for WBA, whilst mismanaging 53 for us. Wonder what odds we'd get on him never managing more than 60 games for a single club in the English divisions?

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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by Millsy » 04 Dec 2015 15:17

Good riddance.

Any manager would do as long as brings in a keeper and a keeping coach with him.


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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by Ian Royal » 04 Dec 2015 15:24

Bonfire Boy Not been able to to the Mad stad for a while (not from round 'ere) and can honestly say it was the worst game I've seen, I include witnessing a 4-1 thrashing by Bristol City many years ago in that. QPR were shockingly bad to, but the Reading players lacked passion, dare I say effort to, and the whole thing just felt wrong. Seemed to sum up Steve Clarke in fact, dour, uninteresting & passionless. Fans seemed totally apathetic towards Clarke, no atmosphere whatsoever, aimless long ball football & not a shot on target in 90 mins didn't help! I'm surprised there was 16'000 in there & no doubt crowds would've dropped further without this action being taken . The club have got this right, no question in my mind. Get Pearson in & put some fight back in the place, players need to share responsibility to & how we miss Quinn & Tshibola. Positives were Fernandez, HRK & John.

There weren't. includes STHs and literally thousands of them didn't show.

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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by Ian Royal » 04 Dec 2015 15:26

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melonhead of course he was. there is no manager on earth who is out there eying the reading job as the future pinnacle of his career.


Apropros nothing at all - I note that the last 2 judas's we employed have never gone on to manage more club games at any one club than they have with us. (Fat Scottish Bastard managed 183 games with us, his next best was 163 at Millwall. Parjudas managed us for 212 games, his next best was Newcastle for 185 games).

The Scottish Charlatan has just managed to beat that little record by "managing" 60 games for WBA, whilst mismanaging 53 for us. Wonder what odds we'd get on him never managing more than 60 games for a single club in the English divisions?
Come on strap, we all know Pardew's had a good career since and done better than we have

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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by Bonfire Boy » 04 Dec 2015 15:30

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Bonfire Boy Not been able to to the Mad stad for a while (not from round 'ere) and can honestly say it was the worst game I've seen, I include witnessing a 4-1 thrashing by Bristol City many years ago in that. QPR were shockingly bad to, but the Reading players lacked passion, dare I say effort to, and the whole thing just felt wrong. Seemed to sum up Steve Clarke in fact, dour, uninteresting & passionless. Fans seemed totally apathetic towards Clarke, no atmosphere whatsoever, aimless long ball football & not a shot on target in 90 mins didn't help! I'm surprised there was 16'000 in there & no doubt crowds would've dropped further without this action being taken . The club have got this right, no question in my mind. Get Pearson in & put some fight back in the place, players need to share responsibility to & how we miss Quinn & Tshibola. Positives were Fernandez, HRK & John.

There weren't. includes STHs and literally thousands of them didn't show.


Got it, did seem more like 10/12'000 at most.....why would you have a ST & not go? Live on sky sports can't have helped, guess that won't happen again for a while at least after that 'entertainment'!

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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by DaddyKuhl » 04 Dec 2015 15:33

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Bonfire Boy Not been able to to the Mad stad for a while (not from round 'ere) and can honestly say it was the worst game I've seen, I include witnessing a 4-1 thrashing by Bristol City many years ago in that. QPR were shockingly bad to, but the Reading players lacked passion, dare I say effort to, and the whole thing just felt wrong. Seemed to sum up Steve Clarke in fact, dour, uninteresting & passionless. Fans seemed totally apathetic towards Clarke, no atmosphere whatsoever, aimless long ball football & not a shot on target in 90 mins didn't help! I'm surprised there was 16'000 in there & no doubt crowds would've dropped further without this action being taken . The club have got this right, no question in my mind. Get Pearson in & put some fight back in the place, players need to share responsibility to & how we miss Quinn & Tshibola. Positives were Fernandez, HRK & John.

There weren't. includes STHs and literally thousands of them didn't show.
Yeah but the huge club that is QPR brought with them a huge following, about 4/5 of which were dressed as blue seats.

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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by Ian Royal » 04 Dec 2015 15:37

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Bonfire Boy Not been able to to the Mad stad for a while (not from round 'ere) and can honestly say it was the worst game I've seen, I include witnessing a 4-1 thrashing by Bristol City many years ago in that. QPR were shockingly bad to, but the Reading players lacked passion, dare I say effort to, and the whole thing just felt wrong. Seemed to sum up Steve Clarke in fact, dour, uninteresting & passionless. Fans seemed totally apathetic towards Clarke, no atmosphere whatsoever, aimless long ball football & not a shot on target in 90 mins didn't help! I'm surprised there was 16'000 in there & no doubt crowds would've dropped further without this action being taken . The club have got this right, no question in my mind. Get Pearson in & put some fight back in the place, players need to share responsibility to & how we miss Quinn & Tshibola. Positives were Fernandez, HRK & John.

There weren't. includes STHs and literally thousands of them didn't show.
Yeah but the huge club that is QPR brought with them a huge following, about 4/5 of which were dressed as blue seats.


QPR managed about 1500. Which is poor for such a close game certainly, but with threats of motorway closure and a thursday night TV game with both teams utter turd, I'm not surprised the turn out was low.

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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by Stranded » 04 Dec 2015 15:41

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melonhead of course he was. there is no manager on earth who is out there eying the reading job as the future pinnacle of his career.


Apropros nothing at all - I note that the last 2 judas's we employed have never gone on to manage more club games at any one club than they have with us. (Fat Scottish Bastard managed 183 games with us, his next best was 163 at Millwall. Parjudas managed us for 212 games, his next best was Newcastle for 185 games).

The Scottish Charlatan has just managed to beat that little record by "managing" 60 games for WBA, whilst mismanaging 53 for us. Wonder what odds we'd get on him never managing more than 60 games for a single club in the English divisions?


Yeah but the 185 games at Newcastle raised his profile to probably a career high and he is riding a crest of a decent wave at Palace - where he is doing a very good job. I'd say he's more likely to leave there for a better job (poss even England) then he is to get fired - as things stand today at least.

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Re: Steve Clarke Sacked

by M Brook » 04 Dec 2015 15:53

Bonfire Boy
Ian Royal There weren't. includes STHs and literally thousands of them didn't show.


Got it, did seem more like 10/12'000 at most.....why would you have a ST & not go? Live on sky sports can't have helped, guess that won't happen again for a while at least after that 'entertainment'!


Think you've answered your own question there, Bonfire Boy! :D

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