The footballer gets arrested thread

[6ft Kerplunk]

I'd stress as well that not all 12 have to agree. If they can't agree the judge can offer them a 10-2 or 11-2 verdict if necessary.

The latter seems unlikely.

[Hoop Blah]

If he gets an 11-2 verdict then I reckon he's got good grounds for a mistrial.

[genome]

Having followed it on Sunderland Echo's live updates part I can't see 12 members of the jury saying guilty.

IMO letter of the law means he will probably get off as the prosecution hasn't done enough to prove his guilt.

Seb, what are your thoughts?

I've not followed it enough, but the defence argument is that she's exaggerated to make herself look cool and that it was just a kiss.

Might the jury decide that he did put his hand down her trousers, but didn't get a blowie? One might be realistic, the other an exaggeration too far?

I'd stress as well that not all 12 have to agree. If they can't agree the judge can offer them a 10-2 or 11-2 verdict if necessary.

Having only looked at limited coverage in the last week or so, I'd say he's probably going to be found guilty of something - but Pownall QC is a oxf*rd EXCELLENT advocate and if anyone can get Johnson off (ooh er) it will be him.

The judge himself said:
“I can only accept unanimous verdicts in this case. 12-0 is the only possible score.”

Or do you think he'll go back on that?

[Winston Smith]

I am starting to wonder if Seb just bought some law certificates off the internetz

[Winston Smith]

There is no verdict in the case.

The jury of eight women and four men wanted to ask a question about the evidence they’ve heard.

They have asked counsel to clarify in which of the schoolgirl’s police interviews she told officers that Johnson moved the car before they took part in an alleged s*x act.

[genome]

s*x

[Winston Smith]

s*x

I wish I could put a * in the middle of your meh face

[Sanguine]

By * do you mean jizz?

[genome]

s*x

I wish I could put a * in the middle of your meh face

You're a meh face

[wingnut]

Jury sent home for the day after 3 hours of deliberation.

When you're w8ing for a verdict in your cases, are you able to reliably predict what the result will be? Any shocks/surprises?

[Sutekh]

Bumping above the crap....

[Pepe the Horseman]

But what does it all mean, Seb?

[LWJ]

Not guilt for the charge or her giving him a blowwy. (Count 2)

Undecided on count 1 which relates to him touching her up.

Follow it here FYI: http://www.sunderlandecho.com/live/event?1834584

[Uke]

Guilty of charge #2 - Johnson has been fingered by the long arm of the law

[genome]

... not sure why you keep bringing it up, mine was a genuine question not an insinuation you were spouting bullshit

[wingnut]

Guilty of fingering. Not guilty of a blowie. Nice.

Oh, hold on a sec, let me go back a page and quote something I wrote.

HA! IN YOUR FACES!!! EXACTLY AS I CALLED IT!

[Pepe the Horseman]

What sort of sentence should we expect?

[6ft Kerplunk]

From Seb? Something smug and pcuntish.

[genome]

The Guardian have gone with the headline "Johnson guilty of sex with child". Not exactly accurate?

[LWJ]

Not sure how they convicted on that. Unless they haven't told us all the evidence