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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by Maneki Neko » 08 Mar 2016 14:00

Ian Royal It's not negative to have written off a pie in the sky outcome and instead focus on reality and the legitimate positives for next season.


id suggest to you, that by simply looking at your language....written off, pie in the sky, unrealistic, illegitimate........you can see that its very very negative.

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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by maffff » 08 Mar 2016 14:00

genome IN :!: for 4 wins at Wembley this year

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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by genome » 08 Mar 2016 14:00

You think we'll win the Community Shield as well? Bit of a stretch...

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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by Forbury Lion » 08 Mar 2016 14:02

genome You think we'll win the Community Shield as well? Bit of a stretch...
If the Leicester bubble bursts and they lose their best players to the so called big clubs, then why not?

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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by genome » 08 Mar 2016 14:07

Imagine if we did though, and we won the FA Cup, the Community Shield and the Championship Play Off final. Brian will have turned a faltering season into the most successful in the club's history.

I'm sure Kes will still figure out a way to claim that there's been no improvement under him.


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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by Ian Royal » 08 Mar 2016 14:31

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Ian Royal It's not negative to have written off a pie in the sky outcome and instead focus on reality and the legitimate positives for next season.


id suggest to you, that by simply looking at your language....written off, pie in the sky, unrealistic, illegitimate........you can see that its very very negative.


And I'd say it's negative to be grasping onto unrealistic hopes when you could be focusing your energies on more positive avenues. :P
genome Imagine if we did though, and we won the FA Cup, the Community Shield and the Championship Play Off final. Brian will have turned a faltering season into the most successful in the club's history.

I'm sure Kes will still figure out a way to claim that there's been no improvement under him.

What sort of odds could you get on that?

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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by Maneki Neko » 08 Mar 2016 14:46

And I'd say it's negative to be grasping onto unrealistic hopes


I think you misunderstand the terms negative and positive and unrealistic.


its not unrealistic at all is it.
its unlikely at worst. unrealistic would be for the squad to turn into cabbage.

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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by Snowball136 » 08 Mar 2016 15:15

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genome You think we'll win the Community Shield as well? Bit of a stretch...
If the Leicester bubble bursts and they lose their best players to the so called big clubs, then why not?


We are buying Vardy?

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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by Ian Royal » 08 Mar 2016 16:52

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And I'd say it's negative to be grasping onto unrealistic hopes


I think you misunderstand the terms negative and positive and unrealistic.


its not unrealistic at all is it.
its unlikely at worst. unrealistic would be for the squad to turn into cabbage.

No, that's impossible*






*as far as anything is impossible.


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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by Maneki Neko » 08 Mar 2016 16:56

Reading reaching the playoffs from here wouldnt be unrealistic. Things of equal or more shocking unlikliness happen all the time. Therefore are realistic.

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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by Victor Meldrew » 08 Mar 2016 19:37

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AthleticoSpizz .........really?

A game where another 3 points keeps us vaguely interested in the play-offs

Unbeaten in 6......play the players.....keep the momentum going


Nowhere near the play-offs, concentrate on the FA Cup.
Players nowadays seem to like their little rests so a fresh (and best) side for Friday night.


id say that given brains record, its not sensible to dismiss the playoffs just yet.


Nobody can totally dismiss the play-offs but those 0-0s don't really point to a promotion push.
Also making up 9 points (and staying there) needs a number of other teams to have a dreadful run and nobody to perform well apart from us.
It isn't going to happen, although we spoke about this after the game when we remembered as young school kids often believing in the impossible until it was mathematically impossible which it so often was.
Let's concentrate on the FA Cup and a bit of building for next season.

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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by sandman » 08 Mar 2016 20:15

Top Flight I agree with alot of the comments that we don't look an accomplished team at the moment. I don't think that you can blame players like Gunter and McCleary individually for this. Because of weaknesses in all sorts of areas it affects the way players like Gunter and McCleary can play and the effect that they can have on the game. I think our most effective 11, not necessarily the one with our best players, but the team most likely to get positive results consistently at the moment if everyone was fit would be this:

In a 4-4-2 shape...

GK: Al Habsi
RB: Gunter
LB: Obita
CB: McShane
CB: Hector
RW: McCleary / Kanu
CM: Williams
CM: Quinn
LW: John
CF: Kermorgant
CF: Vydra

The thing is, not everyone is fit and McDermott has to make the best of what he's got. And what he's got right now is an old man up front with no pace who is missing decent chances regularly. If he had slid the ball inside the post rather than just wide of it we'd have been 3-1 on Fulham and cruising to victory. The details matter in the end. He is having to play a 4-5-1 type formation or variants of it to cover weaknesses that we have in midfield. With players that don't have enough of an all round game.

4-4-2 is an effective formation if you have the right players who do the right things. Leicester are playing 4-4-2 and flying away with the Premier League. When Danny Williams is missing, I think we can't play a 4-4-2 with Norwood and Quinn. You need a stronger box to box man in there. Ola John doesn't defend so you have to have Hector providing additional steel. Then that means we can only use one man up front. And Kermorgant is no Nicky Forster. We just have to soldier on until the end of the season with what we've got right now and hope Brian can get the players that we need during the summer.

Anyone who thinks this side is anywhere near the 2006 team is just totally wrong. There are weaknesses everywhere in this side. They are not an all round team that can find the balance between defence and attack. They are great at some things and weak at other things and that is our problem with these players. Our midtable position is exactly where we deserve to be with this group.


:lol:

Vydra's biggest fan criticising others for missing decent chances regularly.

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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by Top Flight » 08 Mar 2016 20:21

We need to win our game in hand away to Middlesboro as well. That ain't gonna be easy.


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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by Top Flight » 08 Mar 2016 20:23

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Top Flight I agree with alot of the comments that we don't look an accomplished team at the moment. I don't think that you can blame players like Gunter and McCleary individually for this. Because of weaknesses in all sorts of areas it affects the way players like Gunter and McCleary can play and the effect that they can have on the game. I think our most effective 11, not necessarily the one with our best players, but the team most likely to get positive results consistently at the moment if everyone was fit would be this:

In a 4-4-2 shape...

GK: Al Habsi
RB: Gunter
LB: Obita
CB: McShane
CB: Hector
RW: McCleary / Kanu
CM: Williams
CM: Quinn
LW: John
CF: Kermorgant
CF: Vydra

The thing is, not everyone is fit and McDermott has to make the best of what he's got. And what he's got right now is an old man up front with no pace who is missing decent chances regularly. If he had slid the ball inside the post rather than just wide of it we'd have been 3-1 on Fulham and cruising to victory. The details matter in the end. He is having to play a 4-5-1 type formation or variants of it to cover weaknesses that we have in midfield. With players that don't have enough of an all round game.

4-4-2 is an effective formation if you have the right players who do the right things. Leicester are playing 4-4-2 and flying away with the Premier League. When Danny Williams is missing, I think we can't play a 4-4-2 with Norwood and Quinn. You need a stronger box to box man in there. Ola John doesn't defend so you have to have Hector providing additional steel. Then that means we can only use one man up front. And Kermorgant is no Nicky Forster. We just have to soldier on until the end of the season with what we've got right now and hope Brian can get the players that we need during the summer.

Anyone who thinks this side is anywhere near the 2006 team is just totally wrong. There are weaknesses everywhere in this side. They are not an all round team that can find the balance between defence and attack. They are great at some things and weak at other things and that is our problem with these players. Our midtable position is exactly where we deserve to be with this group.


:lol:

Vydra's biggest fan criticising others for missing decent chances regularly.


Yeah, well, he's still in my team. Because Kermie is the best we've got right now along with Vydra.

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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by genome » 08 Mar 2016 20:23

Ian Royal What sort of odds could you get on that?


Can't find odds on the Community Shield.

250/1 to go up on Betfair
50/1 to win the cup on various sites

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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by bcubed » 08 Mar 2016 23:33

Maneki Neko
And I'd say it's negative to be grasping onto unrealistic hopes


I think you misunderstand the terms negative and positive and unrealistic.


its not unrealistic at all is it.
its unlikely at worst. unrealistic would be for the squad to turn into cabbage.


Still think it's realistic?!

And the accepted meaning of unrealistic that IR implies is confirmed by this definition-
"having a wrong idea of what is likely to happen"

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Re: Back from the game (Fulham)

by Forbury Lion » 09 Mar 2016 11:36

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genome You think we'll win the Community Shield as well? Bit of a stretch...
If the Leicester bubble bursts and they lose their best players to the so called big clubs, then why not?


We are buying Vardy?
Maybe, If Ranieri decides to make a move for him after declaring the Leicester job too easy and joining us for a bigger challenge.

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