How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Top Flight » 07 May 2016 20:03

That's not true.

You don't understand that this bunch of players really couldn't give a fu(k.

The only sort of management that is appropriate for these players is to show them where the door is and bring in some people with a better attitude. These players are losers. They keep proving it.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Top Flight » 07 May 2016 20:07

The performance today at Blackburn was completely predictable. We knew what the result would be before they even left Reading. There is no point getting in a hissy fit about it now. Nothing has changed. Now the season is over, Brian can finally get to work.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Ian Royal » 07 May 2016 20:59

sandman Really? We have an unbalanced squad with some good individual players.


And the squad was balanced when Adkins was in charge with Anton bringing in luxury poseurs?

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by RoyallyFcuked » 07 May 2016 21:05

The squad is still better than it was last season. Also worth noting that there were signs of improvment when Clarke took over, but we have not improved at all under McD, in fact we've got worse.

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by Ian Royal » 07 May 2016 21:08

RoyallyFcuked The squad is still better than it was last season. Also worth noting that there were signs of improvment when Clarke took over, but we have not improved at all under McD, in fact we've got worse.


FYI, McDermott's got exactly the same number of points and wins as Clarke did when he joined us. Both had 25 league games to finish the season. So no, Clarke didn't start any better. We've certainly finished badly under McDermott, but he arrested the total nosedive Clarke had us in and kept us up comfortably.

We certainly could have done worse under Clarke, who would have just oxf*rd off at the next opportunity anyway.


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by RoyalBlue » 07 May 2016 21:19

Top Flight The performance today at Blackburn was completely predictable. We knew what the result would be before they even left Reading. There is no point getting in a hissy fit about it now. Nothing has changed. Now the season is over, Brian can finally get to work.


Hopefully that work will comprise him looking for another job along with the rest of our largely unqualified and absolutely shyte 'coaching' team.

If he is allowed to get to work at the Mad Stad (other than doing a bit of painting and decorating) then we really are doomed next season.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by RoyallyFcuked » 07 May 2016 21:20

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RoyallyFcuked The squad is still better than it was last season. Also worth noting that there were signs of improvment when Clarke took over, but we have not improved at all under McD, in fact we've got worse.


FYI, McDermott's got exactly the same number of points and wins as Clarke did when he joined us. Both had 25 league games to finish the season. So no, Clarke didn't start any better. We've certainly finished badly under McDermott, but he arrested the total nosedive Clarke had us in and kept us up comfortably.

We certainly could have done worse under Clarke, who would have just oxf*rd off at the next opportunity anyway.


As I said, Clarke inherited a bigger mess and worse squad. He also comfortably kept us up from the downward spiral we had got into under Adkins, we were in 16th place and finished 19th. Meanwhile McD took over with us in 9th place and we finished 17th, so you're telling me the objective of a team in 9th place at the beginning of December that had been as high as 2nd was to 'stay up'? :lol:

And despite any of that my point still stands, there were signs of improvement when Clarke took over, we looked much better defensively for example but since McD has returned we have got worse at the back.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Top Flight » 07 May 2016 21:33

Our poor results in the last few weeks have come after safety was assured and our players stopped giving a damn. It has skewed our final league position.

Don't read too much into these meaningless games. Brian is the right man.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by sandman » 07 May 2016 21:45

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sandman Really? We have an unbalanced squad with some good individual players.


And the squad was balanced when Adkins was in charge with Anton bringing in luxury poseurs?


Yep. We had two players for every position, bar left back, and we owned the players we had.

Far more balanced.

If you want to see a manager doing a really poor job at a club then have a look at Ian's hero, Basil Brush Adkins, and his performance at Sheffield United this season. That's with owners who let him bring in his little buddies Hammond and Sharp btw.
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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by RoyallyFcuked » 07 May 2016 21:48

Top Flight Our poor results in the last few weeks have come after safety was assured and our players stopped giving a damn. It has skewed our final league position.

Don't read too much into these meaningless games. Brian is the right man.


We've been shit since he took over though, not just the last few weeks.

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by Mid Sussex Royal » 07 May 2016 22:04

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RoyallyFcuked The squad is still better than it was last season. Also worth noting that there were signs of improvment when Clarke took over, but we have not improved at all under McD, in fact we've got worse.


FYI, McDermott's got exactly the same number of points and wins as Clarke did when he joined us. Both had 25 league games to finish the season. So no, Clarke didn't start any better. We've certainly finished badly under McDermott, but he arrested the total nosedive Clarke had us in and kept us up comfortably.

We certainly could have done worse under Clarke, who would have just oxf*rd off at the next opportunity anyway.


Clarke was a far better coach than Mcdonut - interesting over the last few weeks he has started quoted poor form over the last 2 years as being the reason for the recent run - he needs to look closer to home and accept some responsibility. His tactics and team selections have been terrible.

I agree now we've appointed him we need to give him a couple of transfer windows but I said at the time this was a poor appointment and it has so far been proven to be. His record since 2012 has been dire.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by AthleticoSpizz » 07 May 2016 22:07

Second favourites @ 9/2 for promotion next season....already

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by Top Flight » 07 May 2016 22:08

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Top Flight Our poor results in the last few weeks have come after safety was assured and our players stopped giving a damn. It has skewed our final league position.

Don't read too much into these meaningless games. Brian is the right man.


We've been shit since he took over though, not just the last few weeks.


These players are sh!t.

And we've been a lot more shit in the last 7 games since safety was assured.

The players should be ashamed of themselves.

Anyway Karanka took 3 years to get Boro promoted and Dyche has just won the league after Burnely showed faith in him after Burnley getting relegated.

Give Brian a chance. Show some faith and support. Otherwise we'll be in League One the next time we change divisions.


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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by AthleticoSpizz » 07 May 2016 22:09

Three seasons for Sir Steve Coppell too.

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by Top Flight » 07 May 2016 22:10

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RoyallyFcuked The squad is still better than it was last season. Also worth noting that there were signs of improvment when Clarke took over, but we have not improved at all under McD, in fact we've got worse.


FYI, McDermott's got exactly the same number of points and wins as Clarke did when he joined us. Both had 25 league games to finish the season. So no, Clarke didn't start any better. We've certainly finished badly under McDermott, but he arrested the total nosedive Clarke had us in and kept us up comfortably.

We certainly could have done worse under Clarke, who would have just oxf*rd off at the next opportunity anyway.


Clarke was a far better coach than Mcdonut - interesting over the last few weeks he has started quoted poor form over the last 2 years as being the reason for the recent run - he needs to look closer to home and accept some responsibility. His tactics and team selections have been terrible.

I agree now we've appointed him we need to give him a couple of transfer windows but I said at the time this was a poor appointment and it has so far been proven to be. His record since 2012 has been dire.


It doesn't matter what system he plays. These players will still lose. The problems at the club are quite deep and go way beyond Brian.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Top Flight » 07 May 2016 22:20

The kind of management that these players need is not tactical or formational. It's not motivational or about a system. The only kind of management appropriate for these players involves the transfer market and getting them all the hell out of here.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by mambo3 » 07 May 2016 23:54

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FYI, McDermott's got exactly the same number of points and wins as Clarke did when he joined us. Both had 25 league games to finish the season. So no, Clarke didn't start any better. We've certainly finished badly under McDermott, but he arrested the total nosedive Clarke had us in and kept us up comfortably.

We certainly could have done worse under Clarke, who would have just oxf*rd off at the next opportunity anyway.


Clarke was a far better coach than Mcdonut - interesting over the last few weeks he has started quoted poor form over the last 2 years as being the reason for the recent run - he needs to look closer to home and accept some responsibility. His tactics and team selections have been terrible.

I agree now we've appointed him we need to give him a couple of transfer windows but I said at the time this was a poor appointment and it has so far been proven to be. His record since 2012 has been dire.


It doesn't matter what system he plays. These players will still lose. The problems at the club are quite deep and go way beyond Brian.


1st Team coaches to be made accountable as well.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by blueroyals » 08 May 2016 00:01

I don't want him to go. The style of play hasn't been that bad. A local guy that loves the club etc etc

Look at Leicester this year. They've got a team of players who love playing together. Look at our success under Coppell. Simple, effective football. That's what Brian is trying to build.

Yes, since he's come in we've slipped down the table but you've got to remember that we sold our two top scorers in January. Kermorgant was never going to make up the difference and Rakels wasn't his signing

What would be the point of sacking him now? You'd be handing our summer transfer budget to somebody who has no idea about the squad. At least Brian knows where we need to improve.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by CountryRoyal » 08 May 2016 00:28

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Top Flight Our poor results in the last few weeks have come after safety was assured and our players stopped giving a damn. It has skewed our final league position.

Don't read too much into these meaningless games. Brian is the right man.


We've been shit since he took over though, not just the last few weeks.


These players are sh!t.

And we've been a lot more shit in the last 7 games since safety was assured.

The players should be ashamed of themselves.

Anyway Karanka took 3 years to get Boro promoted and Dyche has just won the league after Burnely showed faith in him after Burnley getting relegated.

Give Brian a chance. Show some faith and support. Otherwise we'll be in League One the next time we change divisions.


Yeah you're right. It had nothing to do with those two clubs spending £10m+ on players.

Get real.

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Re: How impressed are you with BMcD's return to the club?

by Hoop Blah » 08 May 2016 07:49

Top Flight These players are sh!t.

And we've been a lot more shit in the last 7 games since safety was assured.

The players should be ashamed of themselves.


The players aren't shit, at least not all of them, but they are underperforming and we needed to use the resources we had more effectively this season plus probably add a better option here or there to help make this click.

Top Flight Anyway Karanka took 3 years to get Boro promoted and Dyche has just won the league after Burnely showed faith in him after Burnley getting relegated.

Give Brian a chance. Show some faith and support. Otherwise we'll be in League One the next time we change divisions.


You keep quoting these two but the fact is that Karanka and Dyche have been afforded more time because they were succeeding in the first place.

Karanka took over a Boro side that had only won 3 games in 15, losing 6. Of his first 15 games they won 6 and lost 4 and then won 13 by the end of the season, taking them up to 12th. In his second season he got them to 4th and then this season they've won promotion. He's improved them all along the way and so they've stuck with him.

I'm not suggesting we don't give McDermott the time to prove he's on the right track, but in this day and age he has to be in a decent position come November or he's going to be under immense pressure.

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