Record Watch 2016-17

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by Ian Royal » 07 Mar 2017 21:53

Newcastle - 107, with Leeds, Sheff W and Fulham still to play. Plus you never know with the likes of Wigan & Burton scrapping at the bottom. And then there's the home and hosed factor.

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by Royal With Cheese » 11 Mar 2017 16:54

And it's all over for Newcastle!

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by Winchester Royal » 11 Mar 2017 20:11

This just highlights how good the 106 team really were - Newcastle have a hugely expensive side and are probably the best resourced side to have been in this league for a while - there's still 10 games to go and even if they win them all, they can't match the class of 2006.

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by handbags_harris » 14 Mar 2017 12:34

Because, for all their millions of £££'s spunked on all but guaranteeing promotion in individually very good players, they're not as good a team as the 106 side. In fact, IMO they're not even as good a team as Brighton who are by far and away the most well-meshed unit I have seen at this level since that Coppell side.

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by double d » 14 Mar 2017 12:51

OR MAYBE

The standard of the league back then was absolutely piss poor bollocks to what it is now? How many teams are even still in the championship from back then and how many higher or lower?


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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by muirinho » 14 Mar 2017 13:52

double d OR MAYBE

The standard of the league back then was absolutely piss poor bollocks to what it is now? How many teams are even still in the championship from back then and how many higher or lower?


7 (Burnley, Watford, Southampton, Leicester, Crystal Palace, Hull, Stoke) all currently PL

6 (Coventry, Luton, Sheffield Utd, Argyle, Crewe, Milwall) lower divisions

12 championship

think that makes it better rather than worse. No?

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by Silver Fox » 14 Mar 2017 13:59

There were 25 teams in the championship that year? No wonder people find it so hard to beat 106 these days

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by double d » 14 Mar 2017 14:04

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double d OR MAYBE

The standard of the league back then was absolutely piss poor bollocks to what it is now? How many teams are even still in the championship from back then and how many higher or lower?


7 (Burnley, Watford, Southampton, Leicester, Crystal Palace, Hull, Stoke) all currently PL

6 (Coventry, Luton, Sheffield Utd, Argyle, Crewe, Milwall) lower divisions

12 championship

think that makes it better rather than worse. No?


Don't know. Arguably 3 of those PL teams could be in the Champ next season. It's probably worse then than it is now, it is a harder league now. But I don't know

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by No Fixed Abode » 14 Mar 2017 14:10

Silver Fox There were 25 teams in the championship that year?


There are always an even amount of teams in the league m8.


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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by muirinho » 14 Mar 2017 14:17

Silver Fox There were 25 teams in the championship that year? No wonder people find it so hard to beat 106 these days


Er, yeah. Prejudging the relegation race, I accidentally included Hull in my Championship tally first time round, noticed and put it in the PL list, but forgot to reduce the Championship total.

double d Don't know. Arguably 3 of those PL teams could be in the Champ next season.


Possibly, but could also have 2 or 3 of the Championship teams from that season in the PL. Proves nothing either way
double d It's probably worse then than it is now, it is a harder league now. But I don't know


So basically you have no clue, but want to try and denigrate their achievement regardless. Excellent hobnobbing.

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by From Despair To Where? » 14 Mar 2017 15:50

I don't think it is a stronger league this season. The Top 6 in 2006 was stronger, the bottom 6 were stronger and the middle 12 were much of a muchness in comparison to this season. Also, if you look at the teams likely to swap places at the top and the bottom this season, next season is going to be a much bigger challenge.

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by Ian Royal » 14 Mar 2017 17:44

From Despair To Where? I don't think it is a stronger league this season. The Top 6 in 2006 was stronger, the bottom 6 were stronger and the middle 12 were much of a muchness in comparison to this season. Also, if you look at the teams likely to swap places at the top and the bottom this season, next season is going to be a much bigger challenge.

Said every year.

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by SCIAG » 14 Mar 2017 18:13

Comparing the strength of the league from one season to the next is utterly futile.

Watching highlights of some of the thrashings we handed out that season does expose some terrible defending, but I guess that's the nature of the beast. I don't watch the matches where the other team successfully shut up shop and kept us out.

Obviously hard to say, but based on Newcastle's showing here the other week, I think the 106 side would comfortably beat them over two legs.


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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by Davezk » 14 Mar 2017 19:43

People always overestimate the strength of the league. What have Villa done this season for example? (Aside from beat us)

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by From Despair To Where? » 14 Mar 2017 20:48

Was it Ian Holloway who said of the 106 team something along the lines of "we scouted them and the scout came back and said they have no weaknesses. That's never happened before. I said so how do we beat them and he said with a hell of a lot of luck"

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by Ian Royal » 14 Mar 2017 22:48

From Despair To Where? Was it Ian Holloway who said of the 106 team something along the lines of "we scouted them and the scout came back and said they have no weaknesses. That's never happened before. I said so how do we beat them and he said with a hell of a lot of luck"

Rings a vague bell.

We even had strength in depth with Lita and Long upfront, Hunt and Oster on the wings, Gunnarsson in midfield and Makin at fullback. It's not like we didn't have injuries either. Kitson, Doyle, Lita, Sidwell, Shorey and Murty all spent time in the treatment room.

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by CountryRoyal » 14 Mar 2017 23:33

Davezk People always overestimate the strength of the league. What have Villa done this season for example? (Aside from beat us)


Surely that implies the overall strength of the league is better as a team with their qualities aren't pulling up any trees?

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by tmesis » 15 Mar 2017 20:15

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Davezk People always overestimate the strength of the league. What have Villa done this season for example? (Aside from beat us)


Surely that implies the overall strength of the league is better as a team with their qualities aren't pulling up any trees?

Or they just aren't that good, or are packed with players who can't be arsed.

I've seen nothing in the league this season to suggest the quality has improved since 2006.

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by 3points » 15 Mar 2017 21:40

IMO the quality of the league has reduced. More teams come to the Madejski now and just look for a point or score on the break than I remember in the past. You could say they are better tactically but I think it shows shortcomings in the opposition that they are happy to sit deep and take a point rather than come and make a game of it. Most teams who have attacked us this year could have taken all the points (though the vast majority didn't). I don't sit at games very often these days and think "they're a good team" in respect of the opposition and feel as though we didn't deserve something out of the game

(Or perhaps that's just my blue and white tinted specs)

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Re: Record Watch 2016-17

by From Despair To Where? » 16 Mar 2017 06:45

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Silver Fox There were 25 teams in the championship that year?


There are always an even amount of teams in the league m8.


Oh really?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987%E2%80%9388_Football_League#Second_Division_2

Easy to put out of your mind, m8, Chelsea also got relegated that season.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987%E2%80%9388_Football_League#Final_league_tables_and_results

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