If RFC don't make the play-offs....

[Hendo]

Those ppg stats are as meaningless as our possession stats this year under Stam.

McDermott won the title Clarke won Nothing.

Clarke would have got Reading to an FA Cup Semi Final penalty shootout if it wasn't for Adam Flapperici.

Corrected for you.

[marlowuk]

I'll be a bit dissapointed considering we've been up there for so long, and it means we'd have to do pretty oxf*rd gash for the remainder of the season, but I won't lose any sleep over it as we would get annihilated anyway, a top 10 finish still represents improvement, I think we'll be in a better place come next season to mount a more serious challenge, and the premier league is a bit shit anyway.

This!!

[No Fixed Abode]

I'll be a bit dissapointed considering we've been up there for so long, and it means we'd have to do pretty oxf*rd gash for the remainder of the season, but I won't lose any sleep over it as we would get annihilated anyway, a top 10 finish still represents improvement, I think we'll be in a better place come next season to mount a more serious challenge, and the premier league is a bit shit anyway.

This!!

I just don't get this mentality "Failure is OK".

[Top Flight]

I'll be a bit dissapointed considering we've been up there for so long, and it means we'd have to do pretty oxf*rd gash for the remainder of the season, but I won't lose any sleep over it as we would get annihilated anyway, a top 10 finish still represents improvement, I think we'll be in a better place come next season to mount a more serious challenge, and the premier league is a bit shit anyway.

This!!

I just don't get this mentality "Failure is OK".

A top 10 finish would not be considered failure. It is success based on the circumstances and resource limitations that Jaap has worked within.

[No Fixed Abode]

OK - I don't get this looking for excuses for failure mentality. Liverpool fans are very good at that. "Next season".

[bracksroyal10]

I'll be a bit dissapointed considering we've been up there for so long, and it means we'd have to do pretty oxf*rd gash for the remainder of the season, but I won't lose any sleep over it as we would get annihilated anyway, a top 10 finish still represents improvement, I think we'll be in a better place come next season to mount a more serious challenge, and the premier league is a bit shit anyway.

This!!

Regardless of IF we were to go up this year or next, we are really going to be up against it financially as are any of the teams who are now going up.

What may seem like a huge £30 million transfer kitty in actual reality is only going to get you x3 top end Championship/Low end PL players that will make the team competitive in today's market and thats not even mentioning the signing on fees/wages in that.

That said, if we were to get that kind of money via PL football it would be very interesting to see what kind of players we would bring in via Brian Tevreden. No doubt there would be a couple of bargain buys in the mould of Beerens/Moore.

[Top Flight]

OK - I don't get this looking for excuses for failure mentality. Liverpool fans are very good at that. "Next season".

I don't think Liverpool have failed either based on their own resources and limitations. The only failure this season would be Chelsea if they are unable to win the Premier League, FA Cup, League Cup and Champions League quadruple. Based on the resources that they have available to them they really ought to win all four. If not then that would be considered an absolute failure.

[Royal_jimmy]

What's everyone's opinion if we fail to make the playoffs now in this position

I'd be gutted personally based on how longs left and the gap between us and 6th/7th but at the same time our record in the playoffs is complete gash. Surely we will win them this time even if we are a long way from being ready from the premier league!

Long term it'd probably be better we lose in the playoffs and try and strengthen and go again stronger (though we lose Kelly, Williams and McCleary)

[Hound]

considering we are 5 pts clear, have dire Rotherham and a Wigan side not too far behind them both at home left to come, Wednesday have a game against Fulham - would be seriously disappointed if we didn't make the play offs now.

[BR0B0T]

OK - I don't get this looking for excuses for failure mentality. Liverpool fans are very good at that. "Next season".

I don't think Liverpool have failed either based on their own resources and limitations..

[Top Flight]

OK - I don't get this looking for excuses for failure mentality. Liverpool fans are very good at that. "Next season".

I don't think Liverpool have failed either based on their own resources and limitations..

I was just trying to wind him up Brobot. He was trying to troll me so I tried to troll him. Remember Kes is a Chelsea fan and a wind up merchant. It's just banter we're having. People don't actually believe half the sh*t they write Bro. Wise up.

[stealthpapes]

I'll be a bit dissapointed considering we've been up there for so long, and it means we'd have to do pretty oxf*rd gash for the remainder of the season, but I won't lose any sleep over it as we would get annihilated anyway, a top 10 finish still represents improvement, I think we'll be in a better place come next season to mount a more serious challenge, and the premier league is a bit shit anyway.

This!!

I just don't get this mentality "Failure is OK".

what failure?

[Ian Royal]

What's everyone's opinion if we fail to make the playoffs now in this position

I'd be gutted personally based on how longs left and the gap between us and 6th/7th but at the same time our record in the playoffs is complete gash. Surely we will win them this time even if we are a long way from being ready from the premier league!

Long term it'd probably be better we lose in the playoffs and try and strengthen and go again stronger (though we lose Kelly, Williams and McCleary)

I don't think we'll lose anyone we can't manage fine without. And I don't see a big exodus happening.

I don't have a probelm finishing below sixth as such, though I would have a problem with us ending the season very poorly. Mostly good results in the final three / five and I'm ecstatic.

Way worse than finishing 7th/8th for me would be seeing us lose at Wembley for a fourth time, or a season of losing to patronising big clubs followedby financial implosion.

[No Fixed Abode]

Who are the patronising big clubs Ian?

[Ian Royal]

Who are the patronising big clubs Ian?

Utd, Liverpool, City, Spurs, Arsenal... you know. The big ones.

[NewCorkSeth]

Who are the patronising big clubs Ian?

Utd, Liverpool, City, Spurs, Arsenal... you know. The big ones.

Burn.

[CountryRoyal]

Who are the patronising big clubs Ian?

Utd, Liverpool, City, Spurs, Arsenal... you know. The big ones.

Well played.

[Ascotexgunner]

I will console my self with the fact that my heart will be healthier. I hate the playoffs....great concept that it is.

[Ascotexgunner]

Who are the patronising big clubs Ian?

Utd, Liverpool, City, Spurs, Arsenal... you know. The big ones.

When it comes to patronising w*nkers I can't believe you didn't include Chelsea.....I'd love Abramovich to pull the plug on those p+icks. Sadly it won't happen but would be funny to watch them do a Blackpool or better still an Orient.....Those poor s+D's must be suffering.

[Maneki Neko]