Stam Gone

[Hound]

Absolutely and I wouldn't be surprised if the size of the squad isn't a factor towards some of our injury woes this season.

its an interesting point. Last year we had a core of about 14 players who seemed to be fit nearly all season (bar Swift, and latterly McCleary). Doubt that was just down to luck.

[genome]

oof

[Uke]

oof

There's an easy way to deal with this if we all just stop buying the Chronic



Oh...

[genome]

I actually vastly prefer Jonathan Low to that helmet

[Hound]

JLow is pretty harmless, grown to quite like him. Friday does look and come over as a complete bell

[John Smith]

What's wrong with a bit of speculative journalism?

If people are too thick to read between the lines then that's their problem. And obviously Chris Gunter's too.

[Victor Meldrew]

Gunter is right to say the players let Stam down with abject performance after abject performance. However this was his squad with the majority bought during his time in charge. Stam was given every chance to turn things around. It was clear he wasn’t going to be able to do so.

Quite right that this is HIS squad.
The late great Bill Shankly said that anybody could see whether a player is any good on the pitch but he was always more interested in the characters of players before signing them.
Looking at the likes of Aluko,Ilori, Blackett,Clement et al it makes you wonder to what extent the club looked at this aspect, if at all.

[genome]

What's wrong with a bit of speculative journalism?

If people are too thick to read between the lines then that's their problem. And obviously Chris Gunter's too.

I imagine you'd be all too happy if Courtney wrote an article on you, with regards to an interview he didn't even conduct with you, and then misrepresented what you actually said in that interview for clicks?

[John Smith]

What's wrong with a bit of speculative journalism?

If people are too thick to read between the lines then that's their problem. And obviously Chris Gunter's too.

I imagine you'd be all too happy if Courtney wrote an article on you, with regards to an interview he didn't even conduct with you, and then misrepresented what you actually said in that interview for clicks?

I imagine you believe everything you read in newspapers?

[genome]

What's wrong with a bit of speculative journalism?

If people are too thick to read between the lines then that's their problem. And obviously Chris Gunter's too.

I imagine you'd be all too happy if Courtney wrote an article on you, with regards to an interview he didn't even conduct with you, and then misrepresented what you actually said in that interview for clicks?

I imagine you believe everything you read in newspapers?

Of course not. But it doesn't make the practice okay.

[maffff]

As others have said. FFP is calculated over a number of seasons, so even though we made a profit last year we're not necessarily in the green just yet.

39 million allowed over 3 years.

losses:
2013/14 £7.3m (loss)
2014/15 £2.6m (profit)
2015/16 £15,034,948 (loss)
2016/17 £4,661,150 (profit)

so this season 2017/18 we could (in theory) go up to £19.3m loss. which would take us up to the margins.

Once the £15m loss from 2015/16 is out of the way we'll have that monkey off our back going into next seaason. I assume that's what is referred to as the mismanagement of finance?.

Then we might have more financial freedom from next year, parachute payments or no parachute payments. Even more so if our losses aren't high from the current season.

If we broke even this year we'd have up to £43m losses available over the next two...

[genome]

And how much have we spent in the transfer windows in 17/18? Add wages and other running costs then you’d imagine we’d be pretty close to that 19.3m?

[maffff]

And how much have we spent in the transfer windows in 17/18? Add wages and other running costs then you’d imagine we’d be pretty close to that 19.3m?

We'll know this time next year I guess... remember costs are spread out over length of contract. So I doubt it'll be that high for transfers.

[Lower West]

Looking at the likes of Aluko,Ilori, Blackett,Clement et al it makes you wonder to what extent the club looked at this aspect, if at all.

Clement has grown on me. Lacks experience and physical presence. Makes up with character and an ability to play 90 minutes. Still young though with time to improve. .

[maffff]

Looking at the likes of Aluko,Ilori, Blackett,Clement et al it makes you wonder to what extent the club looked at this aspect, if at all.

Clement has grown on me. Lacks experience and physical presence. Makes up with character and an ability to play 90 minutes. Still young though with time to improve. .

There's definitely a decent player in there. Can see why Stam wanted to give him a chance.

[Royal Rother]

As others have said. FFP is calculated over a number of seasons, so even though we made a profit last year we're not necessarily in the green just yet.

39 million allowed over 3 years.

losses:
2013/14 £7.3m (loss)
2014/15 £2.6m (profit)
2015/16 £15,034,948 (loss)
2016/17 £4,661,150 (profit)

so this season 2017/18 we could (in theory) go up to £19.3m loss. which would take us up to the margins.

Once the £15m loss from 2015/16 is out of the way we'll have that monkey off our back going into next seaason. I assume that's what is referred to as the mismanagement of finance?.

Then we might have more financial freedom from next year, parachute payments or no parachute payments. Even more so if our losses aren't high from the current season.

If we broke even this year we'd have up to £43m losses available over the next two...

Probably being dim, but I’m confused by your numbers.

-£15.034m + £4.661m = -£10.373m losses for the last 2 seasons.

If we are allowed £39m loss over 3 years does that not give us £28.6m left, not £19.3m?

But anyway, my understanding is that you can only lose up to £13m a season if the shortfall over £5m is made up by equity injection from the owners.

I suspect most owners are not prepared to do that as they can’t get that back cash out.

So if my reading is correct we would only be able to lose £15m - £10.4m = £4.6m this season.

And I’d have thought that was a virtual certainty.

[blueroyals]

The OS says "mutual consent" who's saying we paid Stam anything?

[Uke]

The OS says "mutual consent" who's saying we paid Stam anything?

Compromise agreements are by mutual consent to an agreed fee.

He would be daft to leave and say "OK then, fair fokkers I was useless so don't pay me anything while I look for a new job"

[John Smith]

Have we done the right thing in getting rid of Stam? He built this team and knew these players better than Clement. He deserved a chance to try and keep us up. I'm having second thoughts here...

[double d]

Have we done the right thing in getting rid of Stam? He built this team and knew these players better than Clement. He deserved a chance to try and keep us up. I'm having second thoughts here...

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