Relegation Watch

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Re: Relegation Watch

by Dr_Hfuhruhurr » 22 Apr 2018 13:28

So to go down we need all but one of the following to happen
1. Burton to win both their games
2. Barnsley to win 2 out of 3 games
3. Bolton not to lose again
4. Birmingham to finish the season better than us.

If, of course, we beat the team that are 16 points clear of the playoffs and 13 points clear of relegation with two games to go, you can add 1 game to 1,2,3 which, I believe makes two of them impossible.

Just saying, we are far more likely to stay up than not.

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Re: Relegation Watch

by Mid Sussex Royal » 22 Apr 2018 13:36

Dr_Hfuhruhurr So to go down we need all but one of the following to happen
1. Burton to win both their games
2. Barnsley to win 2 out of 3 games
3. Bolton not to lose again
4. Birmingham to finish the season better than us.

If, of course, we beat the team that are 16 points clear of the playoffs and 13 points clear of relegation with two games to go, you can add 1 game to 1,2,3 which, I believe makes two of them impossible.

Just saying, we are far more likely to stay up than not.


Agree - and both 1 and 3 cannot both happen as they play each other.

Also need to remember Barnsley's last 2 games are against sides who are in play off contention, so even if they win at Forest, they will still need probably another win.

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Re: Relegation Watch

by Denver Royal » 22 Apr 2018 14:01

Latest relegation odds on Betfred:

Burton 1/5
Barnsley 1/2
Bolton 11/8
Brum 9/1
Reading 10/1

That's the shortest I've seen us, indeed Betway has us at 33/1

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Re: Relegation Watch

by CountryRoyal » 22 Apr 2018 14:55

Hound Reading fans are what they are. No one is going to change the demographic of the area

The best way for the club to fill the stadium is to attract families etc and plan longer term

No real point moaning about it


This is the crux of it, and while I hate the fact, we’re not going to get a huge vocal following overnight, or perhaps and probably more realistically, ever.

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Re: Relegation Watch

by tmesis » 22 Apr 2018 14:57

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Dr_Hfuhruhurr So to go down we need all but one of the following to happen
1. Burton to win both their games
2. Barnsley to win 2 out of 3 games
3. Bolton not to lose again
4. Birmingham to finish the season better than us.

If, of course, we beat the team that are 16 points clear of the playoffs and 13 points clear of relegation with two games to go, you can add 1 game to 1,2,3 which, I believe makes two of them impossible.

Just saying, we are far more likely to stay up than not.


Agree - and both 1 and 3 cannot both happen as they play each other.

Also need to remember Barnsley's last 2 games are against sides who are in play off contention, so even if they win at Forest, they will still need probably another win.

If we lose both of our final two, Barnsley would finish above us with 5 points from 3 games. Our GD would be at best -20, and there's, at worst, would be -19.


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Re: Relegation Watch

by RoyalBlue » 22 Apr 2018 15:41

stealthpapes I was chatting to Keith Wyness, of all people, last night and he seemed confident that we wouldn't go down. I just don't think I could cope with getting relegated by a Warnock-managed Cardiff. I guess with the playoff situation, its likely to be on telly as well.



Watching final score through me fingers next week, I think.


In the past, I would have always said that, in this type of situation, we would be far more likely to pee on Colin and Cardiff's parade. Sadly, most of this current squad appear to lack the required spirit and fight to ensure that happens.

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Re: Relegation Watch

by Mid Sussex Royal » 22 Apr 2018 18:36

Denver Royal Latest relegation odds on Betfred:

Burton 1/5
Barnsley 1/2
Bolton 11/8
Brum 9/1
Reading 10/1

That's the shortest I've seen us, indeed Betway has us at 33/1


Still 28 on Sky - which we were before the Saturday games. Birmingham 14, I guess that's down to our GD and playing Ipswich.

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Re: Relegation Watch

by Royal_jimmy » 22 Apr 2018 20:36

Let's hope we finish the job on Saturday. The thought of being in the same league as Accrington Stanley, Lincoln, Fleetwood and Bristol Rovers makes my blood boil.

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Re: Relegation Watch

by AthleticoSpizz » 22 Apr 2018 20:39

....there’s always Sunderland, Portsmouth, Plymouth and Charlton tho’


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Re: Relegation Watch

by Stranded » 23 Apr 2018 08:18

Experimental 361 site has raised our % probability for relegation 1% following the weekends results.

They now see us as having a 3% chance to drop.

They see the bottom 3 as is dropping, obviously Sunderland have already gone.

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Re: Relegation Watch

by linkenholtroyal » 23 Apr 2018 13:31

I think if Forest beat Barnsley and burton beat Bolton I would feel a lot happier. But I would love for the first time this season to put oufuture in our own hands and beat Ipswich or draw would do.

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Re: Relegation Watch

by John Smith » 23 Apr 2018 13:51

Denver Royal Charlie Austin put in a shift. A real handful. Prolly not a Prem player, but he'd be good in hoops in the Champ. :wink:

Probably on...£40k a week?

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Re: Relegation Watch

by Stranded » 23 Apr 2018 13:57

linkenholtroyal I think if Forest beat Barnsley and burton beat Bolton I would feel a lot happier. But I would love for the first time this season to put oufuture in our own hands and beat Ipswich or draw would do.


At no point this season has our future not been in our own hands.


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Re: Relegation Watch

by Sutekh » 23 Apr 2018 14:47

Just for the record, if Barnsley don't get more than 1 point from their next two fixtures Reading will be safe even if they lose both of their final games (presuming Bolton don't manage a 10-15 goal win v Forest).

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Re: Relegation Watch

by Stranded » 23 Apr 2018 14:52

Sutekh Just for the record, if Barnsley don't get more than 1 point from their next two fixtures Reading will be safe even if they lose both of their final games (presuming Bolton don't manage a 10-15 goal win v Forest).


If Barnsley don't win tomorrow, I can't see them picking up another point given their last two games.

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Re: Relegation Watch

by Hound » 23 Apr 2018 15:39

Sutekh Just for the record, if Barnsley don't get more than 1 point from their next two fixtures Reading will be safe even if they lose both of their final games (presuming Bolton don't manage a 10-15 goal win v Forest).


this is true - same is if Bolton lose on Saturday we are safe no matter what. But obvs those games are at the same time as the Ipswich one, so we'll be going into that game needing 3 points as far as everyone is concerned

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Re: Relegation Watch

by Silver Fox » 23 Apr 2018 15:42

Hound if Bolton lose on Saturday we are safe no matter what.


That's not right

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Re: Relegation Watch

by Hound » 23 Apr 2018 15:53

Silver Fox
Hound if Bolton lose on Saturday we are safe no matter what.


That's not right


nope fair enough. Lost track of the permutations for a min, but basically saying we can't go into the Ipswich game thinking anything other than 3 points is good enough.

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Re: Relegation Watch

by Silver Fox » 23 Apr 2018 16:01

Now that I agree with

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Re: Relegation Watch

by linkenholtroyal » 23 Apr 2018 17:10

Am I the only on that thinks burton could survive, they have Bolton and Preston as there last 2, both very winnable games. That is a big game at the weekend.

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