The Non - League thread

[Christof]

Mon 7th May BH
SLP PO King's Lynn Town 1-2 Slough Town – att 2842 Manny Williams winner on 89’ - start delayed for 1/2 hr to get the large crowd in.

Amazing day - it felt like a lot more than 2,800 there, with huge queues to get in, to use the 'facilities', and for beer/food as well. The Heras fencing between the sets of supporters was moved so that the gap was smaller, to give more space to the KL fans.

Good game, well contested, with KL shading the first 25 minutes then Slough taking control. In true Slough fashion, they really started to play once they'd gone behind, and for the remainder of the game former Royal Scott Davies was immense. Scenes when the winning goal went in, limbs everywhere etc. At that point, some unruly KL 'fans' decided to try and remove the fencing between us (maybe they wanted to celebrate with us?) and Norfolk's finest had to step in. Pandemonium at the final whistle as Slough fans staged a mini-pitch invasion, whilst the scrotes continued to try and demolish the barrier (and get round it) - they failed. By then, we didn't care.

Anyway, we were held back until gone 6:00, once the excitement (and the sound of police sirens) had died down. Apparently one of the supporters' coaches was bricked during the police escort away from the ground, but with only superficial damage. All back to Arbour Park, proper celebrations!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYE-pJBR4cI&feature=youtu.be - 10:00 for the winning goal

Have to feel a tad sorry for King's Lynn (apart from the scrotes), as any team scoring 100 points and not being promoted is bound to feel hard done by, but Slough were simply better on the day. Now dreaming of a trip to Torquay...

[Royal Rother]

Congrats!

[mx]

For anyone who can't bear the non-league season being over .....

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Testimonial for a long serving Winchester City player this Saturday.

Should be a good day out.

cheers

[Old Man Andrews]

Mon 7th May BH
SLP PO King's Lynn Town 1-2 Slough Town – att 2842 Manny Williams winner on 89’ - start delayed for 1/2 hr to get the large crowd in.

Amazing day - it felt like a lot more than 2,800 there, with huge queues to get in, to use the 'facilities', and for beer/food as well. The Heras fencing between the sets of supporters was moved so that the gap was smaller, to give more space to the KL fans.

Good game, well contested, with KL shading the first 25 minutes then Slough taking control. In true Slough fashion, they really started to play once they'd gone behind, and for the remainder of the game former Royal Scott Davies was immense. Scenes when the winning goal went in, limbs everywhere etc. At that point, some unruly KL 'fans' decided to try and remove the fencing between us (maybe they wanted to celebrate with us?) and Norfolk's finest had to step in. Pandemonium at the final whistle as Slough fans staged a mini-pitch invasion, whilst the scrotes continued to try and demolish the barrier (and get round it) - they failed. By then, we didn't care.

Anyway, we were held back until gone 6:00, once the excitement (and the sound of police sirens) had died down. Apparently one of the supporters' coaches was bricked during the police escort away from the ground, but with only superficial damage. All back to Arbour Park, proper celebrations!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYE-pJBR4cI&feature=youtu.be - 10:00 for the winning goal

Have to feel a tad sorry for King's Lynn (apart from the scrotes), as any team scoring 100 points and not being promoted is bound to feel hard done by, but Slough were simply better on the day. Now dreaming of a trip to Torquay...

Great stuff. Happy for Slough's management team, both top blokes.

[Sutekh]

Expecting to be well wide of the mark but got bored yesterday and did some complete and utter guess work as to the constitution of the Southern League next season

PREMIER

Basingstoke Town
Beaconsfield Town

• Bognor Regis Town
  Chesham United
  Dorchester Town
  Dorking Wanderers
  Farnborough
  Frome Town
  Gosport Borough
  Haringey Borough
  Harrow Borough
  Hartley Wintney
  Kings Langley
  Leatherhead
  Merthyr Town
  Poole Town
  Salisbury
  Staines Town
  Swindon Supermarine
  Taunton Town
  Tiverton Town
  Weymouth

ONE WEST

AFC Totton
Andover Town
Barnstaple Town
Bideford
Blackfield & Langley
Bristol Manor Farm
Didcot Town
Evesham United
Kidlington
Larkhall Athletic
Mangotsfield United
Melksham Town
Moneyfields
Paulton Rovers
Street
Thame United
Thatcham Town
Wimborne Town
Winchester City
Yate Town

ONE EAST

AFC Dunstable
Ashford Town (Middx)
Aylesbury
Aylesbury United
Bedfont Sports
Berkhamsted Town
Bracknell Town
Chalfont St Peter
Chipstead
Dunstable Town
Egham Town
Fleet Town
Hanwell Town
Horsham
Marlow
Molesey
Northwood
South Park
Uxbridge
Westfield

Biggest impact is how the new central leagues are fitted in, I presumed those leagues will be covering Norfolk and Suffolk over to Warwickshire and Worcestershire and probably then reaching down the M5 corridor to Gloucestershire to make up the numbers which has a knock effect of pulling some clubs around the M4 and M25, that are currently in the Isthmian, into the Southern League.

Makes you appreciate what a difficult job the people who run these leagues have in trying to fit clubs in where reasonably logical and no doubt also trying to satisfy some clubs requests to be in a particualr league rather than another.

Be interesting to see how many I actually get right.

[Old Man Andrews]

Expecting to be well wide of the mark but got bored yesterday and did some complete and utter guess work as to the constitution of the Southern League next season

PREMIER

Basingstoke Town
Beaconsfield Town

• Bognor Regis Town
  Chesham United
  Dorchester Town
  Dorking Wanderers
  Farnborough
  Frome Town
  Gosport Borough
  Haringey Borough
  Harrow Borough
  Hartley Wintney
  Kings Langley
  Leatherhead
  Merthyr Town
  Poole Town
  Salisbury
  Staines Town
  Swindon Supermarine
  Taunton Town
  Tiverton Town
  Weymouth

ONE WEST

AFC Totton
Andover Town
Barnstaple Town
Bideford
Blackfield & Langley
Bristol Manor Farm
Didcot Town
Evesham United
Kidlington
Larkhall Athletic
Mangotsfield United
Melksham Town
Moneyfields
Paulton Rovers
Street
Thame United
Thatcham Town
Wimborne Town
Winchester City
Yate Town

ONE EAST

AFC Dunstable
Ashford Town (Middx)
Aylesbury
Aylesbury United
Bedfont Sports
Berkhamsted Town
Bracknell Town
Chalfont St Peter
Chipstead
Dunstable Town
Egham Town
Fleet Town
Hanwell Town
Horsham
Marlow
Molesey
Northwood
South Park
Uxbridge
Westfield

Makes you appreciate what a difficult job the people who run these leagues have in trying to fit clubs in where reasonably logical and no doubt rying to satisfy some clubs requests to be in a particualr league rather than another.

Be interesting to see how many I actually get right.

Chocolate Salty Footballs.

[Four Of Clubs]

Expecting to be well wide of the mark but got bored yesterday and did some complete and utter guess work as to the constitution of the Southern League next season

.....

Biggest impact is how the new central leagues are fitted in, I presumed those leagues will be covering Norfolk and Suffolk over to Warwickshire and Worcestershire and probably then reaching down the M5 corridor to Gloucestershire to make up the numbers which has a knock effect of pulling some clubs around the M4 and M25, that are currently in the Isthmian, into the Southern League.

Makes you appreciate what a difficult job the people who run these leagues have in trying to fit clubs in where reasonably logical and no doubt also trying to satisfy some clubs requests to be in a particualr league rather than another.

Be interesting to see how many I actually get right.

....looks vaguely sensible - so doubtless miles wide of the mark!

... not started delving too deep on what the NLM experts think but I did overhear - or maybe half-gaze at a post somewhere else - that suggested Isthmian could possibly extend it's influence further west to include the bits of Surrey it hasn't got currently and potentially start hoovering in some East Hants clubs.
- doubt it would reach over as far as Basingstoke - though they were Isthmian for a good 15 odd years before they reached the Conference in the early 00's.


The only certainties being mooted about so far, seem to be that the 'extreme' NE Isthmian clubs may go North (Lowestoft, Norwich Utd etc - and possibly Kings Lynn may transfer over from the Southern Prem)

- I did see an article this week, of all places from the Wilts FA, that had some pretty clear explanations of the ethos behind the introduction of the two new leagues (one at STEP03 and one at STEP04) - and the knock-on effect downwards that would have on promotion and restructuring below those levels.

- To enable the restructure All STEP03 to 06 leagues should be reduced where necessary to 20 clubs max. and feeder STEP07 leagues are not to exceed 16 - which is also a convenient way of ditching the teams with unlit ground that have hung-on for some time. Though few of our 'local' STEP06 leagues exceed the stipulated limit.
There will need to be some transfers sideways but essentially any reduction in numbers are achievable, as there are far more clubs being promoted up to STEP04 than those being relegated.

Local to us this season, the numbers have been as follows [RED] where they exceed the proposed limit:

03 ILP [24]
04 IL1N [24] : IL1S [24]

03 SLP [24]
04 SL1E [22] ; SL1W [22]

05 CCLP [22]
06 CCL1 [19]

05 HELLP [20]
06 HELL1E [13] : HELL1W [14]

05 SSMP [21]
06 SSM1 [20]

05 WESSP [22]
06 WESS1 [18]

05 WESTP [20]
06 WEST1 [22]

Once I've wriggled free of the detritus of this season - and before I start thinking about the WC and PSFs just beyond - I might have a dig about, to see what draft (or daft) ideas some of my Anorak fraternity have come up with.

- I'm happy to swill around at any local Cup Finals and sub-STEP06, for at least another week or two

.... actually pondering a visit to the Sw!nedome this evening (Wed) for the Wilts Senior Cup Final between Chipp'num Town and Highworth. (£5 to get in)

[paultheroyal]

Mon 7th May BH
SLP PO King's Lynn Town 1-2 Slough Town – att 2842 Manny Williams winner on 89’ - start delayed for 1/2 hr to get the large crowd in.

Amazing day - it felt like a lot more than 2,800 there, with huge queues to get in, to use the 'facilities', and for beer/food as well. The Heras fencing between the sets of supporters was moved so that the gap was smaller, to give more space to the KL fans.

Good game, well contested, with KL shading the first 25 minutes then Slough taking control. In true Slough fashion, they really started to play once they'd gone behind, and for the remainder of the game former Royal Scott Davies was immense. Scenes when the winning goal went in, limbs everywhere etc. At that point, some unruly KL 'fans' decided to try and remove the fencing between us (maybe they wanted to celebrate with us?) and Norfolk's finest had to step in. Pandemonium at the final whistle as Slough fans staged a mini-pitch invasion, whilst the scrotes continued to try and demolish the barrier (and get round it) - they failed. By then, we didn't care.

Anyway, we were held back until gone 6:00, once the excitement (and the sound of police sirens) had died down. Apparently one of the supporters' coaches was bricked during the police escort away from the ground, but with only superficial damage. All back to Arbour Park, proper celebrations!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYE-pJBR4cI&feature=youtu.be - 10:00 for the winning goal

Have to feel a tad sorry for King's Lynn (apart from the scrotes), as any team scoring 100 points and not being promoted is bound to feel hard done by, but Slough were simply better on the day. Now dreaming of a trip to Torquay...

Referee'd Kings Lynn - horrible club so delighted they lost!

[Four Of Clubs]

...just found this on the Hartley Wintney site - STEP03 line-up for them for next season - so Sutekh wasn't too far off



...so much for the all leagues from STEP03-06 being 20 clubs max?

Not sure what the Yellow/White colours signify either - presumably Yellow could be subject to appeal/negotiation with the other STEP03 leagues?

Doubt if Beaconsfield, & even more so Hendon/Harrow & Walton Casuals, will be too chuffed and there is a high proportion of Western clubs in that lot.

Will see if I can unearth the other STEP03 & STEP04 listings tomorrow ... Dad's Taxiis and Guinness is calling - Not in that order of course!

[AthleticoSpizz]

^ that’s looking like an interesting and tough league to me

[Hoop Blah]

...just found this on the Hartley Wintney site - STEP03 line-up for them for next season - so Sutekh wasn't too far off



...so much for the all leagues from STEP03-06 being 20 clubs max?

Not sure what the Yellow/White colours signify either - presumably Yellow could be subject to appeal/negotiation with the other STEP03 leagues?

Doubt if Beaconsfield, & even more so Hendon/Harrow & Walton Casuals, will be too chuffed and there is a high proportion of Western clubs in that lot.

Will see if I can unearth the other STEP03 & STEP04 listings tomorrow ... Dad's Taxiis and Guinness is calling - Not in that order of course!

Step 4 leagues have announced their constitutions via the websites this evening.

As above, Basingstoke and Hartley are in Southern League South.

Bracknell are in the Isthmian South Central and Thatcham and Highworth are in the Southern West

http://www.isthmian.co.uk/new-season-ne ... lubs-50509

http://www.evostikleaguesouthern.co.uk/ ... ions-50508

[Sutekh]

...just found this on the Hartley Wintney site - STEP03 line-up for them for next season - so Sutekh wasn't too far off



...so much for the all leagues from STEP03-06 being 20 clubs max?

From the literature I've seen the intention was always that Step 3 would have 4 x 22 club divisions (NP, IP, SP, CP) and Step 4 would have 7 x 20 club divisions (NP1N, NP1S, IP1N, IP1S, SP1E, SP1W and CP1),

[Sutekh]

...just found this on the Hartley Wintney site - STEP03 line-up for them for next season - so Sutekh wasn't too far off



...so much for the all leagues from STEP03-06 being 20 clubs max?

Not sure what the Yellow/White colours signify either - presumably Yellow could be subject to appeal/negotiation with the other STEP03 leagues?

Doubt if Beaconsfield, & even more so Hendon/Harrow & Walton Casuals, will be too chuffed and there is a high proportion of Western clubs in that lot.

Will see if I can unearth the other STEP03 & STEP04 listings tomorrow ... Dad's Taxiis and Guinness is calling - Not in that order of course!

Step 4 leagues have announced their constitutions via the websites this evening.

As above, Basingstoke and Hartley are in Southern League South.

Bracknell are in the Isthmian South Central and Thatcham and Highworth are in the Southern West

http://www.isthmian.co.uk/new-season-ne ... lubs-50509

http://www.evostikleaguesouthern.co.uk/ ... ions-50508

The one important thing to remember is that though the Isthmian League has grown the Isthmian North League is technically a separate entity as it does NOT feed into the Isthmian Premier but the Southern League Central

[Sutekh]

Red is relegated
Yellow is a lateral movement and
Green is promoted

[Old Man Andrews]

...just found this on the Hartley Wintney site - STEP03 line-up for them for next season - so Sutekh wasn't too far off



...so much for the all leagues from STEP03-06 being 20 clubs max?

Not sure what the Yellow/White colours signify either - presumably Yellow could be subject to appeal/negotiation with the other STEP03 leagues?

Doubt if Beaconsfield, & even more so Hendon/Harrow & Walton Casuals, will be too chuffed and there is a high proportion of Western clubs in that lot.

Will see if I can unearth the other STEP03 & STEP04 listings tomorrow ... Dad's Taxiis and Guinness is calling - Not in that order of course!

Step 4 leagues have announced their constitutions via the websites this evening.

As above, Basingstoke and Hartley are in Southern League South.

Bracknell are in the Isthmian South Central and Thatcham and Highworth are in the Southern West

http://www.isthmian.co.uk/new-season-ne ... lubs-50509

http://www.evostikleaguesouthern.co.uk/ ... ions-50508

Would think Bracknell will be happy with that. A lot less travel by the look of it.

[Hoop Blah]

Would think Bracknell will be happy with that. A lot less travel by the look of it.

It looks like an easier division too.

[Old Man Andrews]

Would think Bracknell will be happy with that. A lot less travel by the look of it.

It looks like an easier division too.

Yep it seems it. I would be shocked if they weren't at the very least mid table, all depends on who they can recruit this summer. Fairly sure there is a bit of cash available.

[Four Of Clubs]

Red is relegated
Yellow is a lateral movement and
Green is promoted

... OK - makes sense - I was just thrown completely by Banbury and Basingstoke being in 'Yellow' as they are both currently in the same division as the 'White' clubs?

From the literature I've seen the intention was always that Step 3 would have 4 x 22 club divisions (NP, IP, SP, CP) and Step 4 would have 7 x 20 club divisions (NP1N, NP1S, IP1N, IP1S, SP1E, SP1W and CP1),

...just me and the WiltsFA at odds with that then!?

...... presumably in the Article I read, they meant to write that STEP04 to 06 would be reduced to twenty..

... it would appear they are one of the few STEP07 County level leagues that will actually have to reduce their constitution to 16 - they will achieve that by demoting the lowest finishing Reserve or Development club from their Premier League.

Ironically any such 2nd string clubs, might have to transfer over to boost the numbers in the lower levels of the Hellenic as there isn't a direct feeder league to the Wilts Premier that I know of. Odd as some of the clubs opting to move the other way recently, (Cricklade, Purton, Trowbridge, Kintbury) did so to continue playing at STEP07?

- will need to drop more if there are any further clubs in their area electing to leave their current level due to Grading
- e.g. such as Letcombe - though they will undoubtedly apply to go to the N.Berks leagues next season - albeit the Wilts would be easier to return from, should they ever wish to, as the former is outside the remit of the FA Pyramid.

...and that league Bracknell have been placed in has a weird shaped 'footprint' - Chipstead & South Park at one end and Cheshunt, Hertford, Waltham Abbey and Ware at t'other?

Thatcham & Highworth's one makes more sense - though I fear this end of season 'bonus' promotion for Worthians might make or break them - they'll have to recruit a forward line for starters.

[Hoop Blah]

I wonder if Highworth might be able to attract a few of the better players who left them this season to step back up a level or two.

As ever, it’ll probably depend on budget!

[Tony Le Mesmer]

Cinderford sure to appeal being placed in the EAST division (that must be an error), so maybe Thatcham will go East?

Also the East and Central southern leagues are the wrong way round, whats that all about?