World Cup 2018

[Sutekh]

Mexico 1 (ONE) Germany 0

It won’t happen though will it.

[tulip]

Loving the Mexicans, olé

[St Pauli]

I don't know, Germany are stronger going forward, and were last tournament, but this World Cup will be one of their opponents sitting back and trying to beat Germany on the counter, which Mexico are doing that very well.

They could also do with staying in their feet more, Khedira has lost the ball twice under little pressure in really precarious positions.

Attacking decision making/vision/awareness of other options hasn't been great either.

[CountryRoyal]

Mexico outrageous going forward.

Bit frustrating though, if their final ball and decision making was a little better they could easily be 3 or more up. Germany poor atm, tactically all wrong.

[Ark Royal]

Layun has been the bollocks for Mexico today. Can they hold on? Tense stuff!

[leon]

Germany’s final ball into the box has been shit all game. P

Mexico should be 3 up.

[St Pauli]

Germany’s final ball into the box has been shit all game. P

Mexico should be 3 up.

On the first half performance yes, not sure what the point in packing the box with German shirts is if you can never find one.

Normally this is sorted by shots from distance, couldn't hit a barn door though.

[tmesis]

I mean, yeah, if you want to look at a still it's ambiguous, but the video couldn't be clearer that he's caught and impeded.

the video, from that angle, doesn't show where the contact started. This isn't a conclusion make by looking at that still. That's just the only replay I could find (I made the still).

You've only got to watch it to see he's got eyes for nothing but the ball and that the contact happens behind him where he can't possibly see it to engineer it. His foot is going down to the ground to push off for a step and the Dane's leg goes through it taking it out from under him.

I'd swear (although 'd be happy to be proven wrong) that there was another angle shown from the side, that showed the actual contact was late, and after he'd started his fall. IF, and I stress IF that is the case, I'd say he was looking for it.

I mean, there's not even been any media question that it was dodgy. People said live they thought there might be no contact, but after seeing it its a clear pen.

I don't have enough to express bemusement at the idea it wasn't a clear penalty on review.

We sadly live in a time where any sort of contact is deemed sufficient to award a penalty, even if a player is clearly looking for it, so maybe you are right regardless.

Having checked they do talk about contact on the player, but it's not required. There is literally no mention of getting the ball first preventing something being a foul. Not that I could find under law 12 anyway.

It is a bit vague, but I don't think anyone is suggesting that even if he'd got a firmer touch and cleared the ball, it'd still be a foul. Maybe it's not so much about getting a touch or not as preventing a player from getting the ball.

[Ark Royal]

Absolutely brilliant from Mexico. What a performance!

[Sutekh]

Just thinking ahead, if Germany don’t win their group they are in danger of getting Brazil in the last 16. In turn this could affect England’s thinking as if England get to the QFs the expectation would be to face either Germany or Brazil.

If Germany do get Brazil, do England want to win their group?

[CountryRoyal]

This World Cup is the tits. Go on Mexico.

[BR0B0T]

geROFLmany

[BR0B0T]

deutscheLOLand

[CountryRoyal]

I know Mexico have some really decent players but I did Nazi that coming.

[BR0B0T]

I know Mexico have some really decent players but I did Nazi that coming.

[Snowflake Royal]

I mean, yeah, if you want to look at a still it's ambiguous, but the video couldn't be clearer that he's caught and impeded.

the video, from that angle, doesn't show where the contact started. This isn't a conclusion make by looking at that still. That's just the only replay I could find (I made the still).

You've only got to watch it to see he's got eyes for nothing but the ball and that the contact happens behind him where he can't possibly see it to engineer it. His foot is going down to the ground to push off for a step and the Dane's leg goes through it taking it out from under him.

I'd swear (although 'd be happy to be proven wrong) that there was another angle shown from the side, that showed the actual contact was late, and after he'd started his fall. IF, and I stress IF that is the case, I'd say he was looking for it.

I mean, there's not even been any media question that it was dodgy. People said live they thought there might be no contact, but after seeing it its a clear pen.

I don't have enough to express bemusement at the idea it wasn't a clear penalty on review.

We sadly live in a time where any sort of contact is deemed sufficient to award a penalty, even if a player is clearly looking for it, so maybe you are right regardless.

Having checked they do talk about contact on the player, but it's not required. There is literally no mention of getting the ball first preventing something being a foul. Not that I could find under law 12 anyway.

It is a bit vague, but I don't think anyone is suggesting that even if he'd got a firmer touch and cleared the ball, it'd still be a foul. Maybe it's not so much about getting a touch or not as preventing a player from getting the ball.

If he'd got a firmer touch and cleared the ball, he wouldn't be impeding the attacker by bringing him down in the follow through, because the ball is no longer there.

I won't say any more about the Peru one, we'll just have to agree to disagree. One of us has to be just plain wrong, but clearly neither of us will convince the other.

[Ascotexgunner]

Have they found Ozil yet?

[Muskrat]

Swiss team currently running like clockwork...

[bcubed]

Clear push in the back for Swiss equaliser
Why no VAR?

[John Madejski's Wallet]

Clear push in the back for Swiss equaliser
Why no VAR?

VAR and ref obviously don't think it was had enough to be a proper foul