by RoyalJones » 02 Sep 2018 17:50
by Zip » 02 Sep 2018 18:10
Jagermesiter1871Royal_jimmyWAZZOCK
Spot on with your first paragraph.
A couple of questions though;
1) where have you heard that Gourlay is a nice guy?
2) why is Tevreden unprofessional?
Tevreden had some unprofessional conversations to a vulnerable person and said some silly things. To be honest if he was the one who negotiated the Aluko deal he should be sacked for that alone.
Huh?
by Royalwaster » 03 Sep 2018 08:24
by Snowflake Royal » 03 Sep 2018 08:41
Royalwaster I actually think the signings this transfer window have been reasonable given rather limited resources .... Clement clearly wasn't given a large war chest and has had to quite a bit of wheeling and dealing to get in players to fill the gaps. And can't really blame him for not getting rid of dross - why would anyone want our crap?
by Maneki Neko » 03 Sep 2018 13:31
Royalwaster I actually think the signings this transfer window have been reasonable given rather limited resources .... Clement clearly wasn't given a large war chest and has had to quite a bit of wheeling and dealing to get in players to fill the gaps. And can't really blame him for not getting rid of dross - why would anyone want our crap?
by NewCorkSeth » 03 Sep 2018 13:50
Royalwaster I actually think the signings this transfer window have been reasonable given rather limited resources .... Clement clearly wasn't given a large war chest and has had to quite a bit of wheeling and dealing to get in players to fill the gaps. And can't really blame him for not getting rid of dross - why would anyone want our crap?
by Ascotexgunner » 07 Sep 2018 07:20
by Hound » 07 Sep 2018 09:06
NewCorkSethRoyalwaster I actually think the signings this transfer window have been reasonable given rather limited resources .... Clement clearly wasn't given a large war chest and has had to quite a bit of wheeling and dealing to get in players to fill the gaps. And can't really blame him for not getting rid of dross - why would anyone want our crap?
Certainly not our worst summer but there is the question over how transfers were handled.
Clement seemed unsure about which formation we would be using going into the season. We didn't play a 4-4-2 during pre-season. I don't think the players were signed with a 4-4-2 in mind.
Signing 2 strikers, 1 CM, 1 RB, 1 GK and a CB while moving out 3 strikers and 3 CMs seems to show that they thought we were solid in midfield. The area we are clearly weakest. The 2 loan signings were both made in response to injury and performance issues.
The only explanation I can think of for this is he was hoping to play a 3 man midfield with Meyler, Bacuna, Swift and Kelly seemingly up to the task. Sadly they disappointed in that formation thus far and i doubt (but hope) we will see it again soon. It doesn't take a genius to see we might have wanted to prioritise getting another CM in to add some balance in there.
As for wingers starting a season with Aluko and Barrow as your only fit and ready players for those positions is a joke. The loaning of Sims was a good move but having to rely on Aluko to play/cover for the season fills me with dread.
by Sutekh » 07 Sep 2018 09:39
by NewCorkSeth » 07 Sep 2018 10:04
HoundNewCorkSethRoyalwaster I actually think the signings this transfer window have been reasonable given rather limited resources .... Clement clearly wasn't given a large war chest and has had to quite a bit of wheeling and dealing to get in players to fill the gaps. And can't really blame him for not getting rid of dross - why would anyone want our crap?
Certainly not our worst summer but there is the question over how transfers were handled.
Clement seemed unsure about which formation we would be using going into the season. We didn't play a 4-4-2 during pre-season. I don't think the players were signed with a 4-4-2 in mind.
Signing 2 strikers, 1 CM, 1 RB, 1 GK and a CB while moving out 3 strikers and 3 CMs seems to show that they thought we were solid in midfield. The area we are clearly weakest. The 2 loan signings were both made in response to injury and performance issues.
The only explanation I can think of for this is he was hoping to play a 3 man midfield with Meyler, Bacuna, Swift and Kelly seemingly up to the task. Sadly they disappointed in that formation thus far and i doubt (but hope) we will see it again soon. It doesn't take a genius to see we might have wanted to prioritise getting another CM in to add some balance in there.
As for wingers starting a season with Aluko and Barrow as your only fit and ready players for those positions is a joke. The loaning of Sims was a good move but having to rely on Aluko to play/cover for the season fills me with dread.
Meite is a winger. So is Popa. Harriott was fit (but yeah I know...), and McCleary is apparently fit now. That was 5 fit wingers going into the season with one coming back in September
by Snowflake Royal » 07 Sep 2018 10:27
NewCorkSethHoundNewCorkSeth Certainly not our worst summer but there is the question over how transfers were handled.
Clement seemed unsure about which formation we would be using going into the season. We didn't play a 4-4-2 during pre-season. I don't think the players were signed with a 4-4-2 in mind.
Signing 2 strikers, 1 CM, 1 RB, 1 GK and a CB while moving out 3 strikers and 3 CMs seems to show that they thought we were solid in midfield. The area we are clearly weakest. The 2 loan signings were both made in response to injury and performance issues.
The only explanation I can think of for this is he was hoping to play a 3 man midfield with Meyler, Bacuna, Swift and Kelly seemingly up to the task. Sadly they disappointed in that formation thus far and i doubt (but hope) we will see it again soon. It doesn't take a genius to see we might have wanted to prioritise getting another CM in to add some balance in there.
As for wingers starting a season with Aluko and Barrow as your only fit and ready players for those positions is a joke. The loaning of Sims was a good move but having to rely on Aluko to play/cover for the season fills me with dread.
Meite is a winger. So is Popa. Harriott was fit (but yeah I know...), and McCleary is apparently fit now. That was 5 fit wingers going into the season with one coming back in September
I would probably play Meite on the RW but given the evidence Clement sees him as a forward.
Popa is clearly not rated despite being fit and I can't say I've ever been impressed with him when he has played.
Harriott I feel bad for but at this point he doesn't seem like he will play much for us even when fit.
McCleary dropped off severely but if he can get back to even half his best he would be better than Aluko.
Add Sims in and we have an ok number of wingers but quality is severely lacking.
by NewCorkSeth » 07 Sep 2018 12:05
Snowflake RoyalNewCorkSethHound
Meite is a winger. So is Popa. Harriott was fit (but yeah I know...), and McCleary is apparently fit now. That was 5 fit wingers going into the season with one coming back in September
I would probably play Meite on the RW but given the evidence Clement sees him as a forward.
Popa is clearly not rated despite being fit and I can't say I've ever been impressed with him when he has played.
Harriott I feel bad for but at this point he doesn't seem like he will play much for us even when fit.
McCleary dropped off severely but if he can get back to even half his best he would be better than Aluko.
Add Sims in and we have an ok number of wingers but quality is severely lacking.
Is the evidence that Clement sees Meite as a forward rather than a winger that he's played him on the wing about as much as he's played him upfront?
by Hound » 07 Sep 2018 12:09
by Ascotexgunner » 07 Sep 2018 12:22
Old Man Andrews They will just kiss his backside. They can't go for him because he will just start banning the press from matches and press conferences, the bloke is a oxf*rd worm.
by John Smith » 07 Sep 2018 12:55
by Snowflake Royal » 07 Sep 2018 13:00
NewCorkSethSnowflake RoyalNewCorkSeth I would probably play Meite on the RW but given the evidence Clement sees him as a forward.
Popa is clearly not rated despite being fit and I can't say I've ever been impressed with him when he has played.
Harriott I feel bad for but at this point he doesn't seem like he will play much for us even when fit.
McCleary dropped off severely but if he can get back to even half his best he would be better than Aluko.
Add Sims in and we have an ok number of wingers but quality is severely lacking.
Is the evidence that Clement sees Meite as a forward rather than a winger that he's played him on the wing about as much as he's played him upfront?
Yes..
I may have been mistaken looking back and including the pre season games... he did play upfront for most of the friendlies right? I'm not completely wrong am I?
John Smith Very disappointing response on here regarding last night. Would have expected a lot more members of the forum to have been present. Will have to take Tim Dellor and Anthony Smith's word for whatever was said.
by bracksroyal10 » 07 Sep 2018 13:02
AscotexgunnerOld Man Andrews They will just kiss his backside. They can't go for him because he will just start banning the press from matches and press conferences, the bloke is a oxf*rd worm.
Have to say there was nothing new. They did it in parts. It was all done nicely nicely.
He basically sounded like a CEO which is that although everything is sh*t, hes saying its all ok and
cushioning any problems and making the world sound rosey......and its not good at the moment.....You know usual BS employers say to employees and shareholders at an AGM.
Couple of things came up.
Clements job is safe (and I think he meant that), and he completely went against Clements comments that we had too many players.
He did admit a couple of players should have gone on loan (so why didn't they bozo!!!) but its too late now.
by John Smith » 07 Sep 2018 13:08
Old Man AndrewsJohn Smith Very disappointing response on here regarding last night. Would have expected a lot more members of the forum to have been present. Will have to take Tim Dellor and Anthony Smith's word for whatever was said.
I am disappointed with you not going. I wanted you to go and cause a massive scene. Scare all of those old codgers in STAR.
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