Who goes in January?

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Re: Who goes in January?

by muirinho » 28 Nov 2018 15:58

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NewCorkSeth Only possibly for Jaakkola? Doesn't his deal end this season?


As harsh as it sounds I am not convinced he is good enough to be our long term number 1. He is going through a great spell yes but we shouldn't over egg the pudding here by chucking him a 3 year deal or anything like that.

Well I think we should look to sell Mannone and let Walker and Jaakkola fight it out. Jaakkola is bound to be on low wages so a 2-3 year contract won't hurt us.
It also gives us breathing room to promote Southwood.

Edit: Oh shit just saw he's 31. Maybe a 2 year deal maximum.


How old was Al-Habsi? Don't think age affects goalkeepers as much as outfield players. I'd certainly give him 2-3 years based on recent performances

Jaakkola didn't work in a "play it out from the back" set up, but we don't do that any more.

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Re: Who goes in January?

by NewCorkSeth » 28 Nov 2018 16:16

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As harsh as it sounds I am not convinced he is good enough to be our long term number 1. He is going through a great spell yes but we shouldn't over egg the pudding here by chucking him a 3 year deal or anything like that.

Well I think we should look to sell Mannone and let Walker and Jaakkola fight it out. Jaakkola is bound to be on low wages so a 2-3 year contract won't hurt us.
It also gives us breathing room to promote Southwood.

Edit: Oh shit just saw he's 31. Maybe a 2 year deal maximum.


How old was Al-Habsi? Don't think age affects goalkeepers as much as outfield players. I'd certainly give him 2-3 years based on recent performances

Jaakkola didn't work in a "play it out from the back" set up, but we don't do that any more.

Depends what you mean by "play it out from the back"? Most his passes were short to Ilori right? And Jaakkola often kicks it out of play.

I thought he was about 26 and we were seeing a marked improvement from a player with a large amount of football for us ahead of him. Hence my shock.

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Re: Who goes in January?

by Zip » 28 Nov 2018 17:28

Hound Would look to get rid of, for whatever we could get:

Mannone
Harriott
McShane
Clement
Meyler
Aluko
Edwards
Popa

Loans for
East
House
Richards
McNulty

Would like a new CB

Happy with everyone else in the squad. Possibly new deals for Blackett and Anssi



This is the list I would go with. We need to get rid of about eight players with a view to bringing in about three.

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Re: Who goes in January?

by Ascotexgunner » 28 Nov 2018 17:32

leon There might be a few desperate teams looking for an injection of "creativity" so might go for Aluko or Swift.


As much as I liked Swift, he started brightly but has regressed.


Maidenhead for Aluko then.....though the level may still be a bit high for him.

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Re: Who goes in January?

by tidus_mi2 » 28 Nov 2018 20:00

This must be wishful thinking from the lot of you, no way in hell we'll be able to shift Aluko, he's with us until either his contract runs out or he miraculously rediscovers some form.


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Re: Who goes in January?

by NewCorkSeth » 28 Nov 2018 20:07

tidus_mi2 This must be wishful thinking from the lot of you, no way in hell we'll be able to shift Aluko, he's with us until either his contract runs out or he miraculously rediscovers some form.

Of course it's wishful thinking.

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Re: Who goes in January?

by leon » 28 Nov 2018 20:35

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tidus_mi2 This must be wishful thinking from the lot of you, no way in hell we'll be able to shift Aluko, he's with us until either his contract runs out or he miraculously rediscovers some form.

Of course it's wishful thinking.


Cut price move to Scotland where he’s still got some reputation?

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Re: Who goes in January?

by From Despair To Where? » 28 Nov 2018 21:07

I rember saying at the time we signed Aluko that we'd be mad to pay more than £2m. Now I'd gladly give him away.

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Re: Who goes in January?

by alfie9 » 28 Nov 2018 22:38

Clement.

Although if I had my way it'd be much earlier


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Re: Who goes in January?

by Notts Royal » 28 Nov 2018 23:20

Shocked no one has mentioned Liam Kelly. The bloke has 1 good game out of every 10. Lacks the physicality to impose himself in games. Rinomhota already looks 5x the player he is.

Added to this, Kelly seems to have a good reputation from outside the club (Rangers reportedly interested) so we might get a decent fee for him.

Either way, it’s either him or Swift that needs to be moved on, and we’ve at least seen enough from Swift to suggest he’s more than capable at this level (if played in that no.10 role, unlike being made to play out of position last night!)

Signing 2 small strikers in Baldock & McNulty was a mistake...1 of them needs to go

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Re: Who goes in January?

by sandman » 29 Nov 2018 09:41

alfie9 Clement.

Although if I had my way it'd be much earlier


Agreed.

Just hasn't worked out for Pelle here, another poor signing from Tevreden and Stam. Expect him to go back to Holland where the less physical aspect of the game may aid his development.

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Re: Who goes in January?

by Hound » 29 Nov 2018 10:08

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alfie9 Clement.

Although if I had my way it'd be much earlier


Agreed.

Just hasn't worked out for Pelle here, another poor signing from Tevreden and Stam. Expect him to go back to Holland where the less physical aspect of the game may aid his development.


I'm surprised he hasn't got more of a go actually. He seems to be the kind of high energy midfielder that Paul C likes. Did watch one preseason game when him and Rino played very well in Central mid.

but think its time to move on, now that Rino has fully emerged, and Eza has signed

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Re: Who goes in January?

by paddy20 » 29 Nov 2018 10:16

Judging the kind of wages we are paying I would imagine a few going off on loan only. Aluko to Brentford at a cut price fee perhaps??


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Re: Who goes in January?

by NewCorkSeth » 29 Nov 2018 10:26

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alfie9 Clement.

Although if I had my way it'd be much earlier


Agreed.

Just hasn't worked out for Pelle here, another poor signing from Tevreden and Stam. Expect him to go back to Holland where the less physical aspect of the game may aid his development.


I'm surprised he hasn't got more of a go actually. He seems to be the kind of high energy midfielder that Paul C likes. Did watch one preseason game when him and Rino played very well in Central mid.

but think its time to move on, now that Rino has fully emerged, and Eza has signed

I really thought he would work out alright last season but seems to have dropped off so much. How long was he injured for?

Agree that his path back into the first team is hampered by Rinomhota and our general need for more all action mids.

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Re: Who goes in January?

by Ranty McRantface » 29 Nov 2018 13:06

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Agreed.

Just hasn't worked out for Pelle here, another poor signing from Tevreden and Stam. Expect him to go back to Holland where the less physical aspect of the game may aid his development.


I'm surprised he hasn't got more of a go actually. He seems to be the kind of high energy midfielder that Paul C likes. Did watch one preseason game when him and Rino played very well in Central mid.

but think its time to move on, now that Rino has fully emerged, and Eza has signed

I really thought he would work out alright last season but seems to have dropped off so much. How long was he injured for?

Agree that his path back into the first team is hampered by Rinomhota and our general need for more all action mids.


Personally, I think Pelle's best position is in Swift's position but Clement seems a bit reluctant to remove him from the match day squad and allow someone else to play there. I do like Pelle and I think his application has been really good when he plays but it's probably best for him to move on for the sake of his career.

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Re: Who goes in January?

by Basildon » 29 Nov 2018 14:10

paddy20 Judging the kind of wages we are paying I would imagine a few going off on loan only. Aluko to Brentford at a cut price fee perhaps??


Why Brentford?

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Re: Who goes in June?

by Old Man Andrews » 04 Apr 2019 08:50

Current to go list:

McNulty
Bodvarsson
Baldock
McCleary
McShane
Jaakkola
Walker
Kelly
Meyler
Gunter
John O'Shea
Van Den Berg
Aluko
Popa
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Re: Who goes in June?

by linkenholtroyal » 04 Apr 2019 08:56

Old Man Andrews Current to go list:

McNulty
Bodvarsson
Baldock
McCleary
McShane
Jaakkola
Walker
Kelly
Meyler
Gunter
John O'Shea


Aluko, JVDB, Popa I would also add to the list

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Re: Who goes in June?

by Hound » 04 Apr 2019 08:59

Old Man Andrews Current to go list:

McNulty
Bodvarsson
Baldock
McCleary
McShane
Jaakkola
Walker
Kelly
Meyler
Gunter
John O'Shea


few variables, but taking it this is on the assumption we stay up.

I'd keep one of Bod or Baldock, try to sell the other. I'd keep McCleary - last year of his contract anyway I think, and he still does a reasonable job for us. All the others yes. I'd try to keep Harriott - cheap option and a good squad player.

If we need money, wouldn't be upset to see Barrow sold off for a decent amount (4m+). We also need to trim down the U23s, its probably time to say goodbye to a quite a few of them. The likes of Barratt and Watson probably need to either step up into the first team squad or go.

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Re: Who goes in June?

by Old Man Andrews » 04 Apr 2019 09:09

linkenholtroyal
Old Man Andrews Current to go list:

McNulty
Bodvarsson
Baldock
McCleary
McShane
Jaakkola
Walker
Kelly
Meyler
Gunter
John O'Shea


Aluko, JVDB, Popa I would also add to the list


Completely forgotten any of them exist.

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