by Zip » 15 Jul 2019 23:34
by Stranded » 16 Jul 2019 08:00
by paddy20 » 16 Jul 2019 08:11
Stranded We aren't going to blood 10 or 11 youngsters at the same time though are we. Assuming we don't sign anyone else before the opening day (and that looks like a good bet at the moment) then our opening 11 is likely to be:
Walker/Virginia
Yiadom
Moore (c)
McIntyre
Blackett
Rinohmota
Swift
Olise
Barrow
Meite
Loader
Bench is anybody's guess but we have plenty of other Academy graduates who can come on and do something or step in if needed.
Defence looks decent to me - midfield has talent, Rinohmota can shield the defence and let Swift/Olise attack a bit more and then pace and power up top to scare the opposition.
Now would I want additional players? yes (as does the manager understandably) but as said elsewhere McIntyre and Olise are ready but we may be a little lightweight defensively.
Will that team challenge, of course not, could it do Ok? Yes with confidence and a positive atmosphere around the club I can see that side keeping us away from relegation comfortably,
by Einstein agogo » 16 Jul 2019 08:21
by Stranded » 16 Jul 2019 08:32
paddy20Stranded We aren't going to blood 10 or 11 youngsters at the same time though are we. Assuming we don't sign anyone else before the opening day (and that looks like a good bet at the moment) then our opening 11 is likely to be:
Walker/Virginia
Yiadom
Moore (c)
McIntyre
Blackett
Rinohmota
Swift
Olise
Barrow
Meite
Loader
Bench is anybody's guess but we have plenty of other Academy graduates who can come on and do something or step in if needed.
Defence looks decent to me - midfield has talent, Rinohmota can shield the defence and let Swift/Olise attack a bit more and then pace and power up top to scare the opposition.
Now would I want additional players? yes (as does the manager understandably) but as said elsewhere McIntyre and Olise are ready but we may be a little lightweight defensively.
Will that team challenge, of course not, could it do Ok? Yes with confidence and a positive atmosphere around the club I can see that side keeping us away from relegation comfortably,
Think that team would definitely struggle especially in midfield. What happens when a couple of players get injured? Our only hope of survival is we get in at least another striker a centre back and a midfielder but that seems unlikely
by Hound » 16 Jul 2019 08:53
Strandedpaddy20Stranded We aren't going to blood 10 or 11 youngsters at the same time though are we. Assuming we don't sign anyone else before the opening day (and that looks like a good bet at the moment) then our opening 11 is likely to be:
Walker/Virginia
Yiadom
Moore (c)
McIntyre
Blackett
Rinohmota
Swift
Olise
Barrow
Meite
Loader
Bench is anybody's guess but we have plenty of other Academy graduates who can come on and do something or step in if needed.
Defence looks decent to me - midfield has talent, Rinohmota can shield the defence and let Swift/Olise attack a bit more and then pace and power up top to scare the opposition.
Now would I want additional players? yes (as does the manager understandably) but as said elsewhere McIntyre and Olise are ready but we may be a little lightweight defensively.
Will that team challenge, of course not, could it do Ok? Yes with confidence and a positive atmosphere around the club I can see that side keeping us away from relegation comfortably,
Think that team would definitely struggle especially in midfield. What happens when a couple of players get injured? Our only hope of survival is we get in at least another striker a centre back and a midfielder but that seems unlikely
That isn't our "only hope" there is more than one way to skin a cat. If players get injured, yes we will be calling on Academy players or if still here you may see a Gunter or a Baldock brought back in.
I don't think anyone would disagree that we ideally need 3 or 4 more players to bolster or improve that starting 11 but in my mind, with a good start that team good have an OK season (i.e. 16th or so). Of course, if we start badly then all bets could be off.
by Maneki Neko » 16 Jul 2019 09:09
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If he has any sense he would see how the season unfolds. I calculate that we have 11 Academy players who could break through this season and so that is the big hope IMO. If even 6 of these play 10 or more games that will fill a lot of gaps.
that seems a recipe for disaster to me.
fine to bring them through, and ease them in etc, but preferably not all in one go when you have no other choice
Isn't that what we have done ?
Rino, Loader, Olise, Richards, Watson have got decent experience in the last 12 months (Olise less experience but looks to be ready to go anyway). McIntyre, Osho, Howe, East, Barrett all involved last season so the barrier of 'first team football' has been broken for them. Novacovic 2 full seasons in Dutch football, full international caps. The process has started and most of them are not 17-18 year olds but 20-22. There is certainly a risk element and not all will make the transition but we aren't suddenly taking a bunch of kids away from GCSE studies and making them play men's football. The other factor is most of them have had 2-3 years of playing in a pretty successful U23 side so are used to playing together.
I reckon for several of them it is exactly the right time to be thrown in, Tom McIntyre is a footballer with a brain and is ready, Olise looks like a proper talent, Howe looked at home in his brief run against Brum, Novacovic is proven.
They won't win us the title and we certainly need a couple of players to bolster the squad but we've got a lot of talent. Talkig to a QPR fan today and they have basically been taking on players rejected at other clubs at this level, much more worrying way to proceed.
by Millsy » 16 Jul 2019 09:32
Maneki NekoNamelessManeki Neko
that seems a recipe for disaster to me.
fine to bring them through, and ease them in etc, but preferably not all in one go when you have no other choice
Isn't that what we have done ?
Rino, Loader, Olise, Richards, Watson have got decent experience in the last 12 months (Olise less experience but looks to be ready to go anyway). McIntyre, Osho, Howe, East, Barrett all involved last season so the barrier of 'first team football' has been broken for them. Novacovic 2 full seasons in Dutch football, full international caps. The process has started and most of them are not 17-18 year olds but 20-22. There is certainly a risk element and not all will make the transition but we aren't suddenly taking a bunch of kids away from GCSE studies and making them play men's football. The other factor is most of them have had 2-3 years of playing in a pretty successful U23 side so are used to playing together.
I reckon for several of them it is exactly the right time to be thrown in, Tom McIntyre is a footballer with a brain and is ready, Olise looks like a proper talent, Howe looked at home in his brief run against Brum, Novacovic is proven.
They won't win us the title and we certainly need a couple of players to bolster the squad but we've got a lot of talent. Talkig to a QPR fan today and they have basically been taking on players rejected at other clubs at this level, much more worrying way to proceed.
any one of them would be fine to slot in for a whole season as first choice in one position.
its when you start bringing 3,4,5,6 that it becomes a much bigger risk
by Royal_jimmy » 16 Jul 2019 12:51
by WoodleyRoyal » 16 Jul 2019 12:52
by Nameless » 16 Jul 2019 13:06
Maneki NekoNamelessManeki Neko
that seems a recipe for disaster to me.
fine to bring them through, and ease them in etc, but preferably not all in one go when you have no other choice
Isn't that what we have done ?
Rino, Loader, Olise, Richards, Watson have got decent experience in the last 12 months (Olise less experience but looks to be ready to go anyway). McIntyre, Osho, Howe, East, Barrett all involved last season so the barrier of 'first team football' has been broken for them. Novacovic 2 full seasons in Dutch football, full international caps. The process has started and most of them are not 17-18 year olds but 20-22. There is certainly a risk element and not all will make the transition but we aren't suddenly taking a bunch of kids away from GCSE studies and making them play men's football. The other factor is most of them have had 2-3 years of playing in a pretty successful U23 side so are used to playing together.
I reckon for several of them it is exactly the right time to be thrown in, Tom McIntyre is a footballer with a brain and is ready, Olise looks like a proper talent, Howe looked at home in his brief run against Brum, Novacovic is proven.
They won't win us the title and we certainly need a couple of players to bolster the squad but we've got a lot of talent. Talkig to a QPR fan today and they have basically been taking on players rejected at other clubs at this level, much more worrying way to proceed.
any one of them would be fine to slot in for a whole season as first choice in one position.
its when you start bringing 3,4,5,6 that it becomes a much bigger risk
by Woodcote Royal » 16 Jul 2019 15:55
paddy20Stranded We aren't going to blood 10 or 11 youngsters at the same time though are we. Assuming we don't sign anyone else before the opening day (and that looks like a good bet at the moment) then our opening 11 is likely to be:
Walker/Virginia
Yiadom
Moore (c)
McIntyre
Blackett
Rinohmota
Swift
Olise
Barrow
Meite
Loader
Bench is anybody's guess but we have plenty of other Academy graduates who can come on and do something or step in if needed.
Defence looks decent to me - midfield has talent, Rinohmota can shield the defence and let Swift/Olise attack a bit more and then pace and power up top to scare the opposition.
Now would I want additional players? yes (as does the manager understandably) but as said elsewhere McIntyre and Olise are ready but we may be a little lightweight defensively.
Will that team challenge, of course not, could it do Ok? Yes with confidence and a positive atmosphere around the club I can see that side keeping us away from relegation comfortably,
Think that team would definitely struggle especially in midfield. What happens when a couple of players get injured? Our only hope of survival is we get in at least another striker a centre back and a midfielder but that seems unlikely
by Snowflake Royal » 16 Jul 2019 18:19
by Lower West » 16 Jul 2019 23:10
paddy20 He's seems to be getting more and more frustrated and who can blame him?
by Maneki Neko » 17 Jul 2019 10:21
Lower Westpaddy20 He's seems to be getting more and more frustrated and who can blame him?
Media noise one suspects. There is a plan. A long term one. There is no quick fix. Gomes will be fully aware. There'll be activity behind the scenes. I'd expect last minute additions in the form of loan players. End of last season we showed ourselves to be a good opportunity for players wanting to make a name for themselves.
by Stranded » 17 Jul 2019 11:01
by windermereROYAL » 17 Jul 2019 11:30
Stranded Well Tim Dellor has tweeted this morning that Gomes told him that he turned down a job at a "European Champions League" club to see the job through - if true good to hear but also suggests he wouldn't be short of suitors if he decides to walk.
by One87One » 17 Jul 2019 11:34
by Wycombe Royal » 17 Jul 2019 11:39
windermereROYALStranded Well Tim Dellor has tweeted this morning that Gomes told him that he turned down a job at a "European Champions League" club to see the job through - if true good to hear but also suggests he wouldn't be short of suitors if he decides to walk.
would have been one of these.
Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukraine), PAOK (Greece), KRC Genk (Belgium), Club Brugge (Belgium), İstanbul Başakşehir (Turkey), LASK Linz (Austria), FK Partizani (Albania) and F91 Dudelange (Luxembourg).
by paddy20 » 17 Jul 2019 12:00
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