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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Brum Royal » 27 Aug 2019 16:18

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AFC Wimbledon?

I seem to remember them ending with really low attendances and there are numerous other clubs close to Wimbledon.


3 years before AFC Wimbledon was formed, the old Wimbledon averaged 18,000 at home games.


Did they? I seem to remember a game with us at Selhurst Park and the away fans outnumbered the home fans.

I shall try and find it.

Edit - https://www.royals.org/matdoc/300803.html


That game is unrepresentative as that was during the stay away protests in the lead up to the move

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Hendo » 27 Aug 2019 16:19

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3 years before AFC Wimbledon was formed, the old Wimbledon averaged 18,000 at home games.


Did they? I seem to remember a game with us at Selhurst Park and the away fans outnumbered the home fans.

I shall try and find it.

Edit - https://www.royals.org/matdoc/300803.html


That game is unrepresentative as that was during the stay away protests in the lead up to the move


Fair enough, unaware of this.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Winston Biscuit » 27 Aug 2019 16:22

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Their hardcore of support will follow them.

They'll probably start at step 5 of the non league and average crowds if around 1700 ish as most do when they go bust.

Remember going to watch Aldershot in the early days after they went bust and had crowds of 1800 and taking 1000 to away games locally.

AFC took around 1000 to Sandhurst.


There will certainly be a core support that follow them. But how big that support is after a season of no football while they wait?

I am not trying to poo poo the idea btw (I actually think it sounds more fun than just bouncing between L1 & L2) but I think they are right up against it as they are already one of the smaller football league clubs

They would certainly be a giant in whatever div they have to start in, but I wouldnt expect to see them in the Conf pushing for promotion to the EFL for a long, long time (if ever)
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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by StellaPlease » 27 Aug 2019 16:22

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Did they? I seem to remember a game with us at Selhurst Park and the away fans outnumbered the home fans.

I shall try and find it.

Edit - https://www.royals.org/matdoc/300803.html


That game is unrepresentative as that was during the stay away protests in the lead up to the move


Fair enough, unaware of this.


Unsurprising

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by StellaPlease » 27 Aug 2019 16:24

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3 years before AFC Wimbledon was formed, the old Wimbledon averaged 18,000 at home games.


Did they? I seem to remember a game with us at Selhurst Park and the away fans outnumbered the home fans.

I shall try and find it.

Edit - https://www.royals.org/matdoc/300803.html


That game is unrepresentative as that was during the stay away protests in the lead up to the move


Remember going to watch Reading play there near the end. Away stand was full and the rest of the stadium completely empty.

They beat us :lol:


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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Winston Biscuit » 27 Aug 2019 16:25

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Did they? I seem to remember a game with us at Selhurst Park and the away fans outnumbered the home fans.

I shall try and find it.

Edit - https://www.royals.org/matdoc/300803.html


That game is unrepresentative as that was during the stay away protests in the lead up to the move


Remember going to watch Reading play there near the end. Away stand was full and the rest of the stadium completely empty.

They beat us :lol:


I was at that one. The split second after they scored and our fans went silent, you could hear the players shouting to each other in celebration. Sounded like watching sunday league.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by StellaPlease » 27 Aug 2019 16:27

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That game is unrepresentative as that was during the stay away protests in the lead up to the move


Remember going to watch Reading play there near the end. Away stand was full and the rest of the stadium completely empty.

They beat us :lol:


I was at that one. The split second after they scored and our fans went silent, you could hear the players shouting to each other in celebration. Sounded like watching sunday league.


Yeah. Was a surreal experience.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Brum Royal » 27 Aug 2019 16:28

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That game is unrepresentative as that was during the stay away protests in the lead up to the move


Remember going to watch Reading play there near the end. Away stand was full and the rest of the stadium completely empty.

They beat us :lol:


I was at that one. The split second after they scored and our fans went silent, you could hear the players shouting to each other in celebration. Sounded like watching sunday league.


March 2003
https://www.royals.org/matdoc/010303.html

The 3-0 win Hendo linked was actually after that, in August 2003.

They beat us 3-0 at home over Christmas in the horrific run of 3 consecutive 3-0 defeats at the end of 2003, which was the last time we played them as Wimbledon.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by StellaPlease » 27 Aug 2019 16:32

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Remember going to watch Reading play there near the end. Away stand was full and the rest of the stadium completely empty.

They beat us :lol:


I was at that one. The split second after they scored and our fans went silent, you could hear the players shouting to each other in celebration. Sounded like watching sunday league.


March 2003
https://www.royals.org/matdoc/010303.html

The 3-0 win Hendo linked was actually after that, in August 2003.

They beat us 3-0 at home over Christmas in the horrific run of 3 consecutive 3-0 defeats at the end of 2003, which was the last time we played them as Wimbledon.


Did t Jobi score a worldie against us in the boxing day 0-3?


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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Hendo » 27 Aug 2019 16:37

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That game is unrepresentative as that was during the stay away protests in the lead up to the move


Fair enough, unaware of this.


Unsurprising


Good one

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Winston Biscuit » 27 Aug 2019 17:09

Bury fans now breaking into the stadium

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Winston Biscuit » 27 Aug 2019 17:11

Bury say they are now working with other potential investors. :?

I would like to mock up Chemical Ali in a Bury shirt right now

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by The Enfield Royal71 » 27 Aug 2019 17:14

RIP Bury fc


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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by StellaPlease » 27 Aug 2019 17:15

That's pretty much that.

So so sad.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Sutekh » 27 Aug 2019 17:27

So how did the ffp process allow for the current owner to take control ?

Presuming that it is the end, the reformed club will presumably have to start at least at step 4 (same level as Bracknell and Marlow) maybe lower depending on the state of the reformed club

Hope to god they can still be just Bury FC and not call it AFC Bury

Good news for a third club in the National League though....

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by StellaPlease » 27 Aug 2019 17:35

Sutekh So how did the ffp process allow for the current owner to take control ?

Presuming that it is the end, the reformed club will presumably have to start at least at step 4 (same level as Bracknell and Marlow) maybe lower depending on the state of the reformed club

Hope to god they can still be just Bury FC and not call it AFC Bury

Good news for a third club in the National League though....


Their league membership will be revoked which obviously means they can't play in league 1 but they can apply under Bury FC to ay in the non league. They aren't necessary going bust.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by genome » 27 Aug 2019 17:54

As if Sky Sports News had a fcuking timer on the screen counting down until Bolton and Bury went out of business :lol:

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Sutekh » 27 Aug 2019 18:51

Latest on Bury is that apparently 4 bids to buy the club from the current owner have been put to the FL who are now deliberating about what do with both Bury and Bolton. I reckon it’s odds on that they’ll extend this farce for another week and both clubs will be saved in that time.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by Mid Sussex Royal » 27 Aug 2019 19:11

The EFL have really messed up here.

I agree with what Joey Barton said, league one is now a farce. I don't want to see either Bury or Bolton fold, but Bolton's opponents have effectively had walkovers to date which if Bolton are saved and sign some freebee pros and pick up points, could all become important later on.

Same will happen for first few games if Bury miraculously start up.

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Re: Generic clubs in financial crisis Thread

by The Enfield Royal71 » 27 Aug 2019 20:45

I think this is a sign of things to come. In a few years we will have 40 clubs left.

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