Old Man Andrewshughsies no.1 IF it is Bowen, surely has to be down to FFP.
Nothing to do with it.
Getting Gomes off the wage-bill and making an internal appointment - will certainly help the books!
by hughsies no.1 » 14 Oct 2019 10:08
Old Man Andrewshughsies no.1 IF it is Bowen, surely has to be down to FFP.
Nothing to do with it.
by Maneki Neko » 14 Oct 2019 10:10
2 world wars, 1 world cuppaultheroyal With Bowen now at odds of 1/12 - that would tell you its a done deal. Nearest is Sherwood at 12s.
Tell you what, he must rate himself and got a magic wand because he has put himself under an enormous amount of pressure from the get go. Executioner turned manager rolled into one. Good luck with that.
Maybe he knows something, maybe he is that confident we are all in for a pleasant surprise.
If true, can't help being disappointed. But that's probably a good thing as I was equally disappointed with McGhee, Quinn/Gooding, McDermott, Pardew
Will have the continuity, knows the players. Will hopefully bring in a decent coaching team.
But yeah you're right, will be under significant pressure for sure.
HoundOld Man Andrews2 world wars, 1 world cup
If true, can't help being disappointed. But that's probably a good thing as I was equally disappointed with McGhee, Quinn/Gooding, McDermott, Pardew
Will have the continuity, knows the players. Will hopefully bring in a decent coaching team.
But yeah you're right, will be under significant pressure for sure.
This is the part about it I don't like. I would rather someone came in who didn't know the players and makea new assesment of them, some of them think they are still on holiday and haven't started the season yet. We needed someone like Gareth Ainsworth to come in and remotivate them and give them some belief. He is a proven excellent man manager.
You'd go for Ainsworth OMA?
I'm happy to give Bowen a chance. Certainly pressure will be on, but he must have seen things he thinks he can do a lot better than were being done before. Guessing he'll bring in his old coaching team so will have plenty of experience. A few of us did give him some credit for our improved displays after he joined the club last year, so there are signs he may be ok
Wonder who will take over as DOF?
by URZZZZ » 14 Oct 2019 10:13
HoundOld Man Andrews2 world wars, 1 world cup
If true, can't help being disappointed. But that's probably a good thing as I was equally disappointed with McGhee, Quinn/Gooding, McDermott, Pardew
Will have the continuity, knows the players. Will hopefully bring in a decent coaching team.
But yeah you're right, will be under significant pressure for sure.
This is the part about it I don't like. I would rather someone came in who didn't know the players and makea new assesment of them, some of them think they are still on holiday and haven't started the season yet. We needed someone like Gareth Ainsworth to come in and remotivate them and give them some belief. He is a proven excellent man manager.
Wonder who will take over as DOF?
by Eaststandman » 14 Oct 2019 10:14
by URZZZZ » 14 Oct 2019 10:16
hughsies no.1 IF it is Bowen, surely has to be down to FFP.
Also throws into question the Gomes sacking for me too, no secret that he was on a decent sum of money - obviously results didn't help his cause, but does make me think getting his salary off the books and appointing internally could make it a financial decision?
If Bowen does get the job, we obviously need to back him, regardless if we think it is the right appointment or not - perhaps an under-stated appointment may not be the worst thing?
by Stranded » 14 Oct 2019 10:17
by Gunny Fishcake » 14 Oct 2019 10:25
by Hound » 14 Oct 2019 10:26
Stranded Just a quick question but does anybody know if Mark Bowen has links to Kia Joorabchian i.e. does he retain him as an adviser/agent?
Gunny Fishcake If it is Bowen we’ve had some dreadful managerial appointments in the past but this takes the biscuit, no pun intended .
Club is a fcuking shambles
Maybe the final straw that’s broken the supporters backs
by Ascotexgunner » 14 Oct 2019 10:28
URZZZZhughsies no.1 IF it is Bowen, surely has to be down to FFP.
Also throws into question the Gomes sacking for me too, no secret that he was on a decent sum of money - obviously results didn't help his cause, but does make me think getting his salary off the books and appointing internally could make it a financial decision?
If Bowen does get the job, we obviously need to back him, regardless if we think it is the right appointment or not - perhaps an under-stated appointment may not be the worst thing?
Don’t think it’d be down to FFP to be honest. What I don’t understand is that if it’s Bowen, why didn’t they just announce it when Gomes was fired? Unless they thought they were getting someone else in and they turned them down
Don’t think it’s going to be anyone’s first choice, but may as well support them, whoever they are
by Zammo » 14 Oct 2019 10:30
AscotexgunnerURZZZZhughsies no.1 IF it is Bowen, surely has to be down to FFP.
Also throws into question the Gomes sacking for me too, no secret that he was on a decent sum of money - obviously results didn't help his cause, but does make me think getting his salary off the books and appointing internally could make it a financial decision?
If Bowen does get the job, we obviously need to back him, regardless if we think it is the right appointment or not - perhaps an under-stated appointment may not be the worst thing?
Don’t think it’d be down to FFP to be honest. What I don’t understand is that if it’s Bowen, why didn’t they just announce it when Gomes was fired? Unless they thought they were getting someone else in and they turned them down
Don’t think it’s going to be anyone’s first choice, but may as well support them, whoever they are
Shirley if its Bowen they would have announced it now....It would be a straight forward appointment. The guy will never get a better chance for a first team job so its not like money or terms would be the issue.
by WestYorksRoyal » 14 Oct 2019 10:37
HoundStranded Just a quick question but does anybody know if Mark Bowen has links to Kia Joorabchian i.e. does he retain him as an adviser/agent?
wouldn't be surprised. Hughes obviously had his links
In terms of being a stitch up - maybe. On the other hand, Howe may well have been very impressed actually seeing him in action as DoF. Maybe he has got far more confidence in him than he did in Gomes. I'm assuming he is the one advising the owners
by Millsy » 14 Oct 2019 10:37
Old Man Andrews2 world wars, 1 world cuppaultheroyal With Bowen now at odds of 1/12 - that would tell you its a done deal. Nearest is Sherwood at 12s.
Tell you what, he must rate himself and got a magic wand because he has put himself under an enormous amount of pressure from the get go. Executioner turned manager rolled into one. Good luck with that.
Maybe he knows something, maybe he is that confident we are all in for a pleasant surprise.
If true, can't help being disappointed. But that's probably a good thing as I was equally disappointed with McGhee, Quinn/Gooding, McDermott, Pardew
Will have the continuity, knows the players. Will hopefully bring in a decent coaching team.
But yeah you're right, will be under significant pressure for sure.
This is the part about it I don't like. I would rather someone came in who didn't know the players and makea new assesment of them, some of them think they are still on holiday and haven't started the season yet. We needed someone like Gareth Ainsworth to come in and remotivate them and give them some belief. He is a proven excellent man manager.
by Royal Rother » 14 Oct 2019 10:41
by Hound » 14 Oct 2019 10:42
WestYorksRoyalHoundStranded Just a quick question but does anybody know if Mark Bowen has links to Kia Joorabchian i.e. does he retain him as an adviser/agent?
wouldn't be surprised. Hughes obviously had his links
In terms of being a stitch up - maybe. On the other hand, Howe may well have been very impressed actually seeing him in action as DoF. Maybe he has got far more confidence in him than he did in Gomes. I'm assuming he is the one advising the owners
Being a good DoF is not a good basis for becoming a manager. Completely different roles and skill sets. Did we ever experiment with Hammond?
I don't know what to think really. It could work, internal appointments have been effective in the past. It just doesn't feel right. Bowen was heavily involved in the decision to sack Gomes; there's something grating about seeing him take on the role himself.
by NewCorkSeth » 14 Oct 2019 10:44
NewCorkSeth Wasnt Clarke rated highly as a coach? Doesnt guarentee being a good or even decent manager.
by WestYorksRoyal » 14 Oct 2019 10:47
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