by One87One » 05 Aug 2020 11:50
by URZZZZ » 05 Aug 2020 11:50
Snowflake RoyalWestYorksRoyalRoyal_jimmy £4M is derisory, Sheffield United can oxf*rd right off with that amount. Even with Covid-19 affecting finances we should be holding out for £6M minimum as a guaranteed fee.
We'll unfortunately be seeing other clubs who are aware that we are close with FFP trying to hold us to ransom and hard balling with fees. Watch Leeds offer us £2M for Olise next!
If Leeds offer £8m for Swift and Olise combined.....would you take it?
In a heartbeat.
by Snowflake Royal » 05 Aug 2020 11:56
by tidus_mi2 » 05 Aug 2020 12:04
by Simon's Church » 05 Aug 2020 12:18
Snowflake Royal It's simple for me. We need money in and wages reduced.
No one is essential and beggars can't be choosers. We can't just keep refusing offers. And we can't just point to other players and say we should be getting that amount instead.
Personally, I want Olise to stay. He's got a lot of potential. I'd like him to be tearing it up and first choice by the end of next season. But right now, he isn't as important as the financials.
I'd like Swift to stay too. But I think Ejaria, Swift and Olise is one too many.
Swift has been part of a failing team for years and he's one of the few saleable assets. He's just not all that either.
If you look at players we've refused to sell recently, none of them have gone on to play especially well.
by Royal_jimmy » 05 Aug 2020 12:29
Snowflake Royal It's simple for me. We need money in and wages reduced.
No one is essential and beggars can't be choosers. We can't just keep refusing offers. And we can't just point to other players and say we should be getting that amount instead.
Personally, I want Olise to stay. He's got a lot of potential. I'd like him to be tearing it up and first choice by the end of next season. But right now, he isn't as important as the financials.
I'd like Swift to stay too. But I think Ejaria, Swift and Olise is one too many.
Swift has been part of a failing team for years and he's one of the few saleable assets. He's just not all that either.
If you look at players we've refused to sell recently, none of them have gone on to play especially well.
by Snowflake Royal » 05 Aug 2020 12:32
Simon's ChurchSnowflake Royal It's simple for me. We need money in and wages reduced.
No one is essential and beggars can't be choosers. We can't just keep refusing offers. And we can't just point to other players and say we should be getting that amount instead.
Personally, I want Olise to stay. He's got a lot of potential. I'd like him to be tearing it up and first choice by the end of next season. But right now, he isn't as important as the financials.
I'd like Swift to stay too. But I think Ejaria, Swift and Olise is one too many.
Swift has been part of a failing team for years and he's one of the few saleable assets. He's just not all that either.
If you look at players we've refused to sell recently, none of them have gone on to play especially well.
How much would say £2m for Olise really help us though? He's first choice as things stand so would have to be replaced, he's almost definitely one of if not the lowest paid member of the squad. Once you've got in a £500k replacement from League 1, plus £5k a week and agents fees, you're probably £1m better off over 2 years and more than likely end up with a worse player.
by Simon's Church » 05 Aug 2020 12:50
Snowflake RoyalSimon's ChurchSnowflake Royal It's simple for me. We need money in and wages reduced.
No one is essential and beggars can't be choosers. We can't just keep refusing offers. And we can't just point to other players and say we should be getting that amount instead.
Personally, I want Olise to stay. He's got a lot of potential. I'd like him to be tearing it up and first choice by the end of next season. But right now, he isn't as important as the financials.
I'd like Swift to stay too. But I think Ejaria, Swift and Olise is one too many.
Swift has been part of a failing team for years and he's one of the few saleable assets. He's just not all that either.
If you look at players we've refused to sell recently, none of them have gone on to play especially well.
How much would say £2m for Olise really help us though? He's first choice as things stand so would have to be replaced, he's almost definitely one of if not the lowest paid member of the squad. Once you've got in a £500k replacement from League 1, plus £5k a week and agents fees, you're probably £1m better off over 2 years and more than likely end up with a worse player.
You could easily argue we have a ready made replacement in Holsgrove for free and I'm far from convinced Olise really is first choice.
£2m basically covers Moore's salary for a year. So it certainly helps.
As I've said, he's not the player we should be targeting to movex but we can only move on players people want. Refusing him a trip to the PL is likely to see a compensatory contract offer and potentially a disillusioned player who stops trying as hard.
by Snowflake Royal » 05 Aug 2020 12:51
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How much would say £2m for Olise really help us though? He's first choice as things stand so would have to be replaced, he's almost definitely one of if not the lowest paid member of the squad. Once you've got in a £500k replacement from League 1, plus £5k a week and agents fees, you're probably £1m better off over 2 years and more than likely end up with a worse player.
You could easily argue we have a ready made replacement in Holsgrove for free and I'm far from convinced Olise really is first choice.
£2m basically covers Moore's salary for a year. So it certainly helps.
As I've said, he's not the player we should be targeting to movex but we can only move on players people want. Refusing him a trip to the PL is likely to see a compensatory contract offer and potentially a disillusioned player who stops trying as hard.
Olise started 11 of the last 14 games of the season, and came on in the other 3, we've since lost Ejaria, McCleary and Obita who were in competition with him.
We'll never get out of the financial mess or be competitive again by selling low paid talented young players for cheap.
by Royal_jimmy » 05 Aug 2020 14:07
by Nameless » 05 Aug 2020 14:24
by Franchise FC » 05 Aug 2020 17:41
Nameless I really hope Howe and Bowen take a different approach to the one some are advocating.
We need to maximise what we get from sales, not give players away at less than market value !
Luckily the club know the financial details so should make informed decisions rather than just guessing.
Selling Olise for a fraction of his value makes no sense in business or footballing terms.
According to the media who are after a story Leeds apparantly want to ‘Take advantage’ of what they think is a panic situation. I think we should do the reverse and take advantage of their sudden relative wealth. We add several million to the price tag we put on any player wanted for a newly promoted side who will be desperate to build a squad in the extremely short time available to them.
by morganb » 06 Aug 2020 20:24
by JimmytheJim » 07 Aug 2020 04:58
morganb Some kind of tactical analysis on John Swift:
https://eflanalysis.com/analysis/john-s ... is-tactics
by tidus_mi2 » 07 Aug 2020 09:25
by Snowflake Royal » 07 Aug 2020 12:52
by Nameless » 07 Aug 2020 13:14
Snowflake Royal Because nobbers are massively over-estimating Swift's value.
by Hound » 07 Aug 2020 13:14
by Notts Royal » 07 Aug 2020 14:45
by Ascotexgunner » 07 Aug 2020 20:35
Notts Royal Ramsdale’s been absolutely shocking as well.
Hoping Sheff Utd have 2nd season syndrome as Wilder is a distinctly dislikable chap. Fits in well with the club!
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