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Re: Back from whatever that was.

by SCIAG » 09 Nov 2020 14:48

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I'm not a big fan of left footed centre backs to be honest.

Weird. So you’re objecting to the likes of Laurent Blanc, Giorgio Chiellini, David Alaba, Paolo Maldini, Frank de Boer, Daniel Passarella, Aymeric Laporte, Marcel Desailly, Ruud Krol, Gabriel Magalhaes, Marco Materazzi, Samuel Umtiti, Clement Lenglet, Jan Vertonghen, Lucas Hernandez, Daniel Agger, and Reading’s own Dariusz Wdowczyk and Matthew Upson?


Would add Gorkss to that list, quality centre half

Of course, add him to the list. Only really had one good season but that’s more than Upson.

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Re: Back from whatever that was.

by SCIAG » 09 Nov 2020 15:18

Hound Hmm interesting theory

Right footer at left cb and left footer at RCB?

So there’s an emerging consensus that it’s important to have centre backs playing on their stronger side, or at least who are comfortable using the foot in question, because if they want to bypass the midfield with a longer pass then it’s easier to do so by playing through the channel than by trying to go through the middle of the pitch.

This is why Nathan Ake went for so much money, why Lucas Hernandez went for so much money, Gabriel at Arsenal (and Pablo Mari), Solksjaer was on record about wanting a left footer, Barcelona have been through a bunch of them, Chelsea snapped up Malang Sarr, etc. Tyrone Mings somehow getting in the England squad makes more sense when you consider that he’s left footed. And on the other side, Kurt Zouma getting in the France squad ahead of Aymeric Laporte makes a bit more sense when you realise Laporte is competing with Umtiti, Hernandez, Lenglet and Kimpembe, but Zouma is only really competing with Varane and Upamecano.

You do get right footed centre backs who specialise at playing on the left side - John Terry, Van Dijk, De Ligt - but all three of those are/were very comfortable with their left foot. At Reading you’d maybe look at someone like Ivar or Liam Moore. But I don’t think Ingimarsson would be considered a ball-player these days, he was better than Sonko but compare him to players like Cooper or Hector who grew up playing the ball out and he seems awkward.

Wouldn’t hyper focus on it, or play a much weaker player because they’re left footed, but I think the advantages of playing a player on the right side outweigh the disadvantages. Centre backs tend to play further apart in possession these days anyway not sure an extra body width is hugely important or not something that can be addressed through better positioning. McIntyre and Gibson will probably be more in-demand than Holmes over their careers.

(fwiw, my guess is that if we have to play McIntyre and Gibson as our two centre backs then McIntyre will play on the right - saw him do it a few times when partnering Jules or Axel at youth level)

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Re: Back from whatever that was.

by Hound » 09 Nov 2020 15:35

honestly I had to go back and check to see what foot Moore favours. He always seems pretty comfortable on the left. Still interesting points made and another little thing I'll look out for

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Re: Back from whatever that was.

by Notts Royal » 09 Nov 2020 19:03

Didn’t we play Miazga and Moore on their wrong sides unsuccessfully, after finishing the previous season playing them on their right sides successfully?

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Re: Back from whatever that was.

by Millsy » 09 Nov 2020 19:22

Notts Royal Didn’t we play Miazga and Moore on their wrong sides unsuccessfully, after finishing the previous season playing them on their right sides successfully?


Oh how great it would be to have Miazga as cover now...


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Re: Back from whatever that was.

by muirinho » 10 Nov 2020 22:56

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hughsies no.1 First 20 minutes we looked so dangerous and the only thing we didn’t do is put the ball in the net.

Stupid stupid mistakes that are so frustrating to watch have cost us. Esteves one was a clear mistake (followed by an embarrassing tweet by C.Friday questioning his ability, the kid is 18 and developing!). Disappointing error by Rafael and Gibson short pass.

Players missing are hurting us, Moore and Meite especially.

Something funny must be going on with Ejaria, we haven’t been told what his ‘injury’ is, rumours circulating after the Blackburn game he wasn’t actually injured that annoyed the manager. He’s now missed four games...

Anyway, we are still top of the league (assuming Swansea don’t win) which is unbelievable and not one Reading fan would have predicted that. Second international break of the season and we are top - let that sink in.

Huge two weeks to get players fit, boost morale and cut out the stupid mistakes.

Up the Royals.


That Courtney tweet was utter cringe and embarrassing. Gunter his mate and another link to his leak stories, clearly an axe to grind.


Is he? I thought Gunter couldn't stand him, and called him out pretty publically on a few stories he got wrong. Maybe they kissed and made up?

Edit: Yeah, didn't imagine it. https://twitter.com/Chrisgunter16/statu ... 2859704320

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