by windermereROYAL » 10 Apr 2021 19:18
by Snowball » 10 Apr 2021 19:22
ZipbcubedZip Well whichever way we look at it we are now very unlikely to make the play offs. We have been too reliant on Joao. That was fine when he was in good form but when he lost his way so did the team.
For me this season is a big missed opportunity.
No doubt it’s a big opportunity and it’s very disappointing to say the least
I actually think we may have a bit of a problem with Joao.
Who have we got on our books?
The guy who couldn’t miss or the guy who’s forgotten how to play football?
Given he hasn’t set the world alight anywhere else is it actually the latter?
I really don’t know. He was so good in the first few months. That was skill not luck. Where that player has gone I just don’t know. I cannot recall any striker in our history having such an odd season.
by Zip » 10 Apr 2021 19:40
SnowballZipbcubed
No doubt it’s a big opportunity and it’s very disappointing to say the least
I actually think we may have a bit of a problem with Joao.
Who have we got on our books?
The guy who couldn’t miss or the guy who’s forgotten how to play football?
Given he hasn’t set the world alight anywhere else is it actually the latter?
I really don’t know. He was so good in the first few months. That was skill not luck. Where that player has gone I just don’t know. I cannot recall any striker in our history having such an odd season.
Blackman
Vydra
by tmesis » 10 Apr 2021 19:44
by windermereROYAL » 10 Apr 2021 20:00
tmesis Broken up into blocks of 8 games each...
1-8, 22 points
9-16, 8 pts
17-24, 13 pts
25-32, 10 pts
33-40, 15 pts
That doesn't really point to a collapse. It points to the inevitable consequence of five months of picking up fewer ppg that the other sides up there.
Of course, had Barnsley not had their storming run we'd probably still have made the play-offs.
You can talk about critical misses, I guess, but let's not forget that the early season form was based on only conceding one goal in the first seven games, not great goalscoring. 11 goals in those first 7 games isn't amazing.
by Snowball » 10 Apr 2021 20:11
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I really don’t know. He was so good in the first few months. That was skill not luck. Where that player has gone I just don’t know. I cannot recall any striker in our history having such an odd season.
Blackman
Vydra
Vydra was just a let down. Blackman is a good one but his purple patch was brief. Joao had gone from sublime to ridiculous
by Crowbar6753 » 10 Apr 2021 20:12
by Snowflake Royal » 10 Apr 2021 22:17
ZipbcubedZip Well whichever way we look at it we are now very unlikely to make the play offs. We have been too reliant on Joao. That was fine when he was in good form but when he lost his way so did the team.
For me this season is a big missed opportunity.
No doubt it’s a big opportunity and it’s very disappointing to say the least
I actually think we may have a bit of a problem with Joao.
Who have we got on our books?
The guy who couldn’t miss or the guy who’s forgotten how to play football?
Given he hasn’t set the world alight anywhere else is it actually the latter?
I really don’t know. He was so good in the first few months. That was skill not luck. Where that player has gone I just don’t know. I cannot recall any striker in our history having such an odd season.
by Zip » 10 Apr 2021 22:59
Snowflake RoyalZipbcubed
No doubt it’s a big opportunity and it’s very disappointing to say the least
I actually think we may have a bit of a problem with Joao.
Who have we got on our books?
The guy who couldn’t miss or the guy who’s forgotten how to play football?
Given he hasn’t set the world alight anywhere else is it actually the latter?
I really don’t know. He was so good in the first few months. That was skill not luck. Where that player has gone I just don’t know. I cannot recall any striker in our history having such an odd season.
Doyle had scored 16 by Xmas after we got relegated first time and then scored 2 in the rest of the season, across another 17 games.
by Hendo » 11 Apr 2021 08:52
ZipSnowflake RoyalZip
I really don’t know. He was so good in the first few months. That was skill not luck. Where that player has gone I just don’t know. I cannot recall any striker in our history having such an odd season.
Doyle had scored 16 by Xmas after we got relegated first time and then scored 2 in the rest of the season, across another 17 games.
Good one but I can’t recall Doyle’s form dropping off so steeply. At least you would always get Doyle’s work rate. The missed pens, open goals, other good chances. Staggering drop off.
by Snowball » 11 Apr 2021 09:19
by Zip » 11 Apr 2021 09:47
HendoZipSnowflake Royal Doyle had scored 16 by Xmas after we got relegated first time and then scored 2 in the rest of the season, across another 17 games.
Good one but I can’t recall Doyle’s form dropping off so steeply. At least you would always get Doyle’s work rate. The missed pens, open goals, other good chances. Staggering drop off.
Think it wasn’t just Doyle that dropped off that year it was the whole team but might not have been as obvious as we weren’t so reliant on him for how we played.
Wasn’t it something stupid like we only picked up 2 points at home after Christmas that year?
by Zip » 11 Apr 2021 09:48
Snowball Not necessarily Reading but how many can we think of
Joao
Vydra
Blackman
Forlan 26 games (9 Months)
Aubameyang
Shearer 12 games without scoring
Torres 24
Rooney went 1,080 minutes blank when at his peak
SHANE LONG went more than 319 days blank and in the same period Kane scored 50 goals
Benteke had a 20+ dry run
Vardy had nine consecutive blanks and jut one goal in 12 games
Werner, Chelsea
by Westwood52 » 11 Apr 2021 10:07
ZipSnowball Not necessarily Reading but how many can we think of
Joao
Vydra
Blackman
Forlan 26 games (9 Months)
Aubameyang
Shearer 12 games without scoring
Torres 24
Rooney went 1,080 minutes blank when at his peak
SHANE LONG went more than 319 days blank and in the same period Kane scored 50 goals
Benteke had a 20+ dry run
Vardy had nine consecutive blanks and jut one goal in 12 games
Werner, Chelsea
It’s more than the goals drying up with Joao. It’s the awful misses that have gone with it.
by Notts Royal » 11 Apr 2021 10:24
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Good one but I can’t recall Doyle’s form dropping off so steeply. At least you would always get Doyle’s work rate. The missed pens, open goals, other good chances. Staggering drop off.
Think it wasn’t just Doyle that dropped off that year it was the whole team but might not have been as obvious as we weren’t so reliant on him for how we played.
Wasn’t it something stupid like we only picked up 2 points at home after Christmas that year?
Yep it was Coppell’s final season. We beat Wolves at their place 3-0 that season and a mate who supports Wolves said to me it was men v boys that night. Wolves went on to win the title.We looked odds on to go up at one point but the home fall fell apart and we ended up missing out on automatic promotion on the final day.I think it was then the play offs v Burnley where Bikey imploded. We had the best goal difference in the entire division that season too.
by Zip » 11 Apr 2021 10:30
Notts RoyalZipHendo
Think it wasn’t just Doyle that dropped off that year it was the whole team but might not have been as obvious as we weren’t so reliant on him for how we played.
Wasn’t it something stupid like we only picked up 2 points at home after Christmas that year?
Yep it was Coppell’s final season. We beat Wolves at their place 3-0 that season and a mate who supports Wolves said to me it was men v boys that night. Wolves went on to win the title.We looked odds on to go up at one point but the home fall fell apart and we ended up missing out on automatic promotion on the final day.I think it was then the play offs v Burnley where Bikey imploded. We had the best goal difference in the entire division that season too.
Remember going to that Wolves game as a student...getting back to Sheffield at some ungodly hour due to poor train service. Was a class game. In fact, every away game that season was pretty class. Glory years!
Not sure Joao’s had as much of a drop off as say Nick Blackman did.
Starting to think Puscas adds more in terms of work rate, hold up play (now greatly improved) and runs. If the team was built around him a bit more, would be interested to see if he’d score as many as Joao.
However I expect him to move...he’s not going to want to carry on playing second fiddle when his stock across the continent is still quite high
by CountryRoyal » 11 Apr 2021 12:01
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Yep it was Coppell’s final season. We beat Wolves at their place 3-0 that season and a mate who supports Wolves said to me it was men v boys that night. Wolves went on to win the title.We looked odds on to go up at one point but the home fall fell apart and we ended up missing out on automatic promotion on the final day.I think it was then the play offs v Burnley where Bikey imploded. We had the best goal difference in the entire division that season too.
Remember going to that Wolves game as a student...getting back to Sheffield at some ungodly hour due to poor train service. Was a class game. In fact, every away game that season was pretty class. Glory years!
Not sure Joao’s had as much of a drop off as say Nick Blackman did.
Starting to think Puscas adds more in terms of work rate, hold up play (now greatly improved) and runs. If the team was built around him a bit more, would be interested to see if he’d score as many as Joao.
However I expect him to move...he’s not going to want to carry on playing second fiddle when his stock across the continent is still quite high
Agree about Puscas. I think he’s shown a great attitude and been unlucky to have started so few. I hope he starts in our remaining games.
by Snowball » 11 Apr 2021 12:43
CountryRoyalZipNotts Royal
Remember going to that Wolves game as a student...getting back to Sheffield at some ungodly hour due to poor train service. Was a class game. In fact, every away game that season was pretty class. Glory years!
Not sure Joao’s had as much of a drop off as say Nick Blackman did.
Starting to think Puscas adds more in terms of work rate, hold up play (now greatly improved) and runs. If the team was built around him a bit more, would be interested to see if he’d score as many as Joao.
However I expect him to move...he’s not going to want to carry on playing second fiddle when his stock across the continent is still quite high
Agree about Puscas. I think he’s shown a great attitude and been unlucky to have started so few. I hope he starts in our remaining games.
Agreed. Joao was abysmal when he came on. He genuinely looked like he’d won a competition or something.
by tmesis » 11 Apr 2021 13:16
windermereROYALtmesis Broken up into blocks of 8 games each...
1-8, 22 points
9-16, 8 pts
17-24, 13 pts
25-32, 10 pts
33-40, 15 pts
That doesn't really point to a collapse. It points to the inevitable consequence of five months of picking up fewer ppg that the other sides up there.
Of course, had Barnsley not had their storming run we'd probably still have made the play-offs.
You can talk about critical misses, I guess, but let's not forget that the early season form was based on only conceding one goal in the first seven games, not great goalscoring. 11 goals in those first 7 games isn't amazing.
We`ve got 66 points not 68.
by Stranded » 11 Apr 2021 14:01
tmesiswindermereROYALtmesis Broken up into blocks of 8 games each...
1-8, 22 points
9-16, 8 pts
17-24, 13 pts
25-32, 10 pts
33-40, 15 pts
That doesn't really point to a collapse. It points to the inevitable consequence of five months of picking up fewer ppg that the other sides up there.
Of course, had Barnsley not had their storming run we'd probably still have made the play-offs.
You can talk about critical misses, I guess, but let's not forget that the early season form was based on only conceding one goal in the first seven games, not great goalscoring. 11 goals in those first 7 games isn't amazing.
We`ve got 66 points not 68.
Indeed, but the point stands. We've not dropped out of the top six because our form has collapsed. We've been just as good lately as we've been at any time of the season, barring those first eight games. It's just that our form since then hasn't been that great.
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