by Ascotexgunner » 12 Apr 2021 20:28
by Nameless » 12 Apr 2021 20:32
SnowballSnowflake RoyalNameless If you judge things on the pitch rather than spreadsheets we absolutely have been mixing it with the best. Almost all our games against other top 6 sides have been close, we’ve looked comfortable alongside teams with essentially PL. squads. Of course we need to be winning more of these games but to say we have not been competitive is to assume the stats tell the tale, when they don’t.
Absolutely this.
Excellent. Next time we lose four out of seven to a group at home and win just one away, I’ll call it “competing”
by Snowball » 12 Apr 2021 20:46
NamelessSnowballSnowflake Royal Absolutely this.
Excellent. Next time we lose four out of seven to a group at home and win just one away, I’ll call it “competing”
As I said, watch games and give the spreadsheets a rest. I’m not too fussed what you call the numbers when I can see clearly that not only have we competed in individual games we have also competed in the league. We’ve not been successful enough, by a whisker, but you have to be an absolute (not sure what) to think we haven’t been competitive this season.
by Snowball » 12 Apr 2021 20:47
Ascotexgunner Firstly I think Joaos absolute shitness in recent games may have put buyers off. I don't think he is going anywhere.
Baldock and Aluko will be freeing up some wages YESSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!! Could possibly bring in a couple of replacements.......Paunovic does well with youth and hopefully a replacement for Olise is just round the corner.
We will build on this season.
by Elm Park Kid » 12 Apr 2021 21:43
by Snowball » 12 Apr 2021 21:54
Elm Park Kid Lets not forget that we've played in an artificial environment this season. Who knows how the team will respond to the return on fans in the mad stad - who knows how the fans will respond to the team? There will know doubt be some players who thrive in a livelier atmosphere and some that will buckle under pressure.
Maybe in a funny way this season has been a good 'circuit breaker' for fans and we'll return with a better attitude and more belief in the team and manager.
by From Despair To Where? » 12 Apr 2021 22:17
by Snowflake Royal » 12 Apr 2021 22:23
SnowballNamelessSnowball
Excellent. Next time we lose four out of seven to a group at home and win just one away, I’ll call it “competing”
As I said, watch games and give the spreadsheets a rest. I’m not too fussed what you call the numbers when I can see clearly that not only have we competed in individual games we have also competed in the league. We’ve not been successful enough, by a whisker, but you have to be an absolute (not sure what) to think we haven’t been competitive this season.
Agreed, 33 games and a negative goal-difference. That's competitive.
PS The final table is a spreadsheet.
by Lower West » 12 Apr 2021 23:46
Snowflake RoyalSnowballNameless
As I said, watch games and give the spreadsheets a rest. I’m not too fussed what you call the numbers when I can see clearly that not only have we competed in individual games we have also competed in the league. We’ve not been successful enough, by a whisker, but you have to be an absolute (not sure what) to think we haven’t been competitive this season.
Take Watford's last 8 out and suddenly they're a PO team not top 2.
by Lower West » 12 Apr 2021 23:47
Ascotexgunner Firstly I think Joaos absolute shitness in recent games may have put buyers off. I don't think he is going anywhere.
by Snowflake Royal » 13 Apr 2021 07:57
Lower WestSnowflake RoyalSnowball
Take Watford's last 8 out and suddenly they're a PO team not top 2.
Watford haven't conceded more than 2 goals in any league fixture so far this season.
by Stranded » 13 Apr 2021 09:10
SnowballElm Park Kid Lets not forget that we've played in an artificial environment this season. Who knows how the team will respond to the return on fans in the mad stad - who knows how the fans will respond to the team? There will know doubt be some players who thrive in a livelier atmosphere and some that will buckle under pressure.
Maybe in a funny way this season has been a good 'circuit breaker' for fans and we'll return with a better attitude and more belief in the team and manager.
Very good point!
by Snowball » 13 Apr 2021 09:52
StrandedSnowballElm Park Kid Lets not forget that we've played in an artificial environment this season. Who knows how the team will respond to the return on fans in the mad stad - who knows how the fans will respond to the team? There will know doubt be some players who thrive in a livelier atmosphere and some that will buckle under pressure.
Maybe in a funny way this season has been a good 'circuit breaker' for fans and we'll return with a better attitude and more belief in the team and manager.
Very good point!
Very small sample, but we played 3 home games with fans in the stadium this year
Forest W 2-0
Brum L 1-2
Norwich L 1-2
by Hound » 13 Apr 2021 10:33
StrandedSnowballElm Park Kid Lets not forget that we've played in an artificial environment this season. Who knows how the team will respond to the return on fans in the mad stad - who knows how the fans will respond to the team? There will know doubt be some players who thrive in a livelier atmosphere and some that will buckle under pressure.
Maybe in a funny way this season has been a good 'circuit breaker' for fans and we'll return with a better attitude and more belief in the team and manager.
Very good point!
Very small sample, but we played 3 home games with fans in the stadium this year
Forest W 2-0
Brum L 1-2
Norwich L 1-2
by yuomi » 13 Apr 2021 11:08
by Hound » 13 Apr 2021 11:29
yuomi Good start aside, there are still some pretty big red flags flying when it comes to this team.
Both Brums games, Preston, Stoke and Millwall at home in particular were old school games of the kind we've got much too familiar with in recent years. Add to that Pauno doesn't seem to have a plan b once his game's been worked out (somewhat like a scary bald Dutchman we used to know), and I wonder if we might be heading for more of the same.
Summer will be interesting. Hopeful but not expecting this FFP business to get sorted. Praying that Dai remains interested for another year even after we miss out on promotion. I'd like to see what VP does with regards to recruitment and how he makes this squad his own without the EFL getting in the way.
Hopeful, but not optimistic.
by linkenholtroyal » 13 Apr 2021 11:31
by Snowball » 13 Apr 2021 11:57
linkenholtroyal
though I agree it is out of our hands there is still time for teams to stumble. a few years back we look relegated with about 6 games to go and we pulled off the great escape.
linkenholtroyal
We have done well this season because we don't have a bloated squad.
by Norfolk Royal » 13 Apr 2021 12:05
by Stranded » 13 Apr 2021 12:11
Snowballlinkenholtroyal
though I agree it is out of our hands there is still time for teams to stumble. a few years back we look relegated with about 6 games to go and we pulled off the great escape.
Tonight's is the second time we've watched and hoped. Hoping for two home wins but not holding my breath. If Swansea and Bournemouth WERE to win, what would our remaining chance be?linkenholtroyal
We have done well this season because we don't have a bloated squad.
And we've (probably) missed out because we didn't have good-enough cover
pendulums and spinning things...
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