Rival Watch

[linkenholtroyal]

yeah know what you mean, but think this has actually been a bit better than that. got quite a clear pic courtesy of Stranded's figures where things have gone wrong and challenged a few misconceptions - ie I did think we'd been a lot worst than we'd been against the bottom sides

Think that is a pretty natural assumption as a defeat to Wycombe will stand out more than one to Bournemouth. Unfortunately, in isolation, the latter is potentially more costly.

I too was surprised about how good we've been against the dross. Shows though that there is probably a bit of a flat track bully about us this year and against better sides we struggle more.

Possibly backed up that exactly half our goals have come in the 15 games against the bottom 8.

We've kind of dealt well with the dross, except when we haven't if you know what I mean. Easily brushed aside the likes of Sheff Weds, Cov, Rotherham and co at home, and fairly comfortable even in the closer games - Wycombe h, Rotherham a - with the odd scare.

But then the performances vs Wycombe a, Brum h/a particularly were three of our worst. The Cov (a) and Sheff Weds (a) weren't too bad relatively.

For me there were still more positives than negatives about the bournemouth game, and didnt feel too despondent coming out of it at the time.

Wycombe was a big one for me and at the time I thought we would regret the loss of those points. a team that we could and should have beaten, Wednesday and Brum the first time around also are where we have lost the points to drop out of the playoffs.

[Stranded]

Think that is a pretty natural assumption as a defeat to Wycombe will stand out more than one to Bournemouth. Unfortunately, in isolation, the latter is potentially more costly.

I too was surprised about how good we've been against the dross. Shows though that there is probably a bit of a flat track bully about us this year and against better sides we struggle more.

Possibly backed up that exactly half our goals have come in the 15 games against the bottom 8.

We've kind of dealt well with the dross, except when we haven't if you know what I mean. Easily brushed aside the likes of Sheff Weds, Cov, Rotherham and co at home, and fairly comfortable even in the closer games - Wycombe h, Rotherham a - with the odd scare.

But then the performances vs Wycombe a, Brum h/a particularly were three of our worst. The Cov (a) and Sheff Weds (a) weren't too bad relatively.

For me there were still more positives than negatives about the bournemouth game, and didnt feel too despondent coming out of it at the time.

Wycombe was a big one for me and at the time I thought we would regret the loss of those points. a team that we could and should have beaten, Wednesday and Brum the first time around also are where we have lost the points to drop out of the playoffs.

Or losing a 2-0 lead etc, etc, etc

[Stranded]

yeah know what you mean, but think this has actually been a bit better than that. got quite a clear pic courtesy of Stranded's figures where things have gone wrong and challenged a few misconceptions - ie I did think we'd been a lot worst than we'd been against the bottom sides

Think that is a pretty natural assumption as a defeat to Wycombe will stand out more than one to Bournemouth. Unfortunately, in isolation, the latter is potentially more costly.

I too was surprised about how good we've been against the dross. Shows though that there is probably a bit of a flat track bully about us this year and against better sides we struggle more.

Possibly backed up that exactly half our goals have come in the 15 games against the bottom 8.

We've kind of dealt well with the dross, except when we haven't if you know what I mean. Easily brushed aside the likes of Sheff Weds, Cov, Rotherham and co at home, and fairly comfortable even in the closer games - Wycombe h, Rotherham a - with the odd scare.

But then the performances vs Wycombe a, Brum h/a particularly were three of our worst. The Cov (a) and Sheff Weds (a) weren't too bad relatively.

For me there were still more positives than negatives about the bournemouth game, and didnt feel too despondent coming out of it at the time.

We're going at over 2 points a game against the dross, so yeah, whilst results against Wycombe and Brum (H esp) are disappointing, over a 15 game stretch you are going to get the odd defeat that you shouldn't. 10 wins and a draw against the bottom 8 is pretty damn good.

[Snowflake Royal]

Think that is a pretty natural assumption as a defeat to Wycombe will stand out more than one to Bournemouth. Unfortunately, in isolation, the latter is potentially more costly.

I too was surprised about how good we've been against the dross. Shows though that there is probably a bit of a flat track bully about us this year and against better sides we struggle more.

Possibly backed up that exactly half our goals have come in the 15 games against the bottom 8.

We've kind of dealt well with the dross, except when we haven't if you know what I mean. Easily brushed aside the likes of Sheff Weds, Cov, Rotherham and co at home, and fairly comfortable even in the closer games - Wycombe h, Rotherham a - with the odd scare.

But then the performances vs Wycombe a, Brum h/a particularly were three of our worst. The Cov (a) and Sheff Weds (a) weren't too bad relatively.

For me there were still more positives than negatives about the bournemouth game, and didnt feel too despondent coming out of it at the time.

We're going at over 2 points a game against the dross, so yeah, whilst results against Wycombe and Brum (H esp) are disappointing, over a 15 game stretch you are going to get the odd defeat that you shouldn't. 10 wins and a draw against the bottom 8 is pretty damn good.

This.

Football isn't played on paper. The Championship is a competitive league. There is no divine right to three points just by being 15+ places higher than someone.

[Zip]

No one is saying crap results against the bottom sides don't have an impact but that you can't look at ours in isolation.

For our 0/6pts v Brum, see Bournemouth's 0/6 v Wednesday. Disappointing draw at and home defeat to Preston, check.

Disappointing home defeat to Stoke v Disappointing home defeat to Luton (in fact Bournemouth failed to score against Luton over 2 games).

Both drop points at Forest.

Disappointing defeat at Coventry v disappointing defeat at Derby.

So yeah, dropping those points hurt but clubs around 5th to 7th will have those results, hence why they are there and not 1st or 2nd.

That's why defeats like the 4-2 are, for me much more important as it is the difference between 2 pretty well matched teams.

If these games weren't that little bit more important, when it comes to defining a team's season, then the term "six pointer" would never have been invented.

You would expect to lose games against the top sides in the division. You wouldn’t expect to drop so many points against the very weakest. How have the other play off contenders performed against the weakest sides?

Did you actually read the post zip, because the answer to your question is literally in it.

If you're trying to be a top side, no, you can't expect to lose to top sides.

And why would we have expected to lose to Bournemouth three games after one of our best ever starts to the season? We had almost our first choice side available.

Oh shush Ian. We went into the Bournemouth game in the back of three successive defeats.

[windermereROYAL]

Ayew has done his hammy, big blow for Swansea in the play-offs. and getting stuffed at home by Wycombe.

[tidus_mi2]

Ayew has done his hammy, big blow for Swansea in the play-offs. and getting stuffed at home by Wycombe.

If they lose to QPR, we beat Luton and then we beat them we would only be 2pts behind, just saying!

[tidus_mi2]

2-0 to Wycombe lol, making me feel a bit better about our away loss to them!

If Swansea can lose at home to Wycombe like this, they could feasibly lose all their games remaining.

[Zip]

Ayew has done his hammy, big blow for Swansea in the play-offs. and getting stuffed at home by Wycombe.

If they lose to QPR, we beat Luton and then we beat them we would only be 2pts behind, just saying!

Don’t do this to yourself. Acceptance is needed.

[tidus_mi2]

Ayew has done his hammy, big blow for Swansea in the play-offs. and getting stuffed at home by Wycombe.

If they lose to QPR, we beat Luton and then we beat them we would only be 2pts behind, just saying!

Don’t do this to yourself. Acceptance is needed.

It would be funny if Swansea suffer a Forest like collapse out of the play-offs after benefiting from it last season.

[Stranded]

If they lose to QPR, we beat Luton and then we beat them we would only be 2pts behind, just saying!

Don’t do this to yourself. Acceptance is needed.

It would be funny if Swansea suffer a Forest like collapse out of the play-offs after benefiting from it last season.

Unfortunately the last week has shown, that despite being shit. Swansea can find a couple of results if needed.

It will be quite something if we have any chance to go past them on the final day.

[windermereROYAL]

Any old straws are worth clutching at however unlikely.

[tidus_mi2]

BELIEVE!

[windermereROYAL]

Luton beating Watford in the local derby. if Brentford don`t score Norwich are up.

[tidus_mi2]

Believe...

[windermereROYAL]

Swansea 2-2

[tidus_mi2]

Big blow for Sheffield Wednesday and the fat lady is probably warming up for their relegation.

[Stranded]

Luton beating Watford in the local derby. if Brentford don`t score Norwich are up.

Brentford can still get to 91 with a draw can't they?

Norwich will go up tonight.

Hopefully Luton will have an after the Lord mayors show performance in midweek.

Ignore that, maths was pants. Norwich up. Not great for us ahead of their game tonight. Bournemouth will fancy it a bit more now.

[Stranded]

Big blow for Sheffield Wednesday and the fat lady is probably warming up for their relegation.

Miss a pen at 1-0, which also saw Bristol down to 10 for 70 mins and you are always at risk of a sucker punch.

[tidus_mi2]

Welp Norwich are up, they still have the title to secure so hopefully they give Bournemouth a thrashing tonight.