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Re: Pauno out

by Brogue » 30 Aug 2021 19:11

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Pauno has 2 capable midfielders in Laurent and Rinomhota, an unbalanced but capable defence but a depleted forward line.

Pains me to say it but I'd have Adkins back.

Dejan Tetek has played more games for us than Aaron Kuhl did. And Kuhl was a better player than Tetek who would probably be playing at about this level if he hadn't had a terrible run of injuries.

That said it's fair to say we were pretty patchwork at times in Adkins' second season. Akpan played far too much.


I disagree, I don't think Aaron Kuhl was very good


You’re not allowed to disagree with SCIAG on youth players Jimmy. He’s the oracle don’t you know :roll: . If you have different opinion to him you apparently you know nothing about football. I agree with you though Jimmy, he was shit.

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Re: Pauno out

by CountryRoyal » 30 Aug 2021 19:28

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SCIAG Dejan Tetek has played more games for us than Aaron Kuhl did. And Kuhl was a better player than Tetek who would probably be playing at about this level if he hadn't had a terrible run of injuries.

That said it's fair to say we were pretty patchwork at times in Adkins' second season. Akpan played far too much.


I disagree, I don't think Aaron Kuhl was very good


You’re not allowed to disagree with SCIAG on youth players Jimmy. He’s the oracle don’t you know :roll: . If you have different opinion to him you apparently you know nothing about football. I agree with you though Jimmy, he was shit.


From what I've seen Tetek > Kuhl. Kuhl had a lot more hype about him, but perhaps Tetek would have too were his debut season not been predominated by the exploits of Joao, Olise, Laurent and generally a team that had as much relative success as it did.

I echo the other poster who said that apparently Kuhl did have attitude problems and his commitment to football was far from resolute. Heard this from one of his old friends.

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Re: Pauno out

by Zip » 30 Aug 2021 19:32

I thought Kuhl was the real deal. He always looked like he had time on the ball and seemed like a fine passer. He briefly broke into the first team but for whatever reasons it didn’t work out. Serious injuries didn’t help thereafter.

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Re: Pauno out

by Hendo » 30 Aug 2021 20:46

Zip I thought Kuhl was the real deal. He always looked like he had time on the ball and seemed like a fine passer. He briefly broke into the first team but for whatever reasons it didn’t work out. Serious injuries didn’t help thereafter.


Same, remember seeing him play in that U23 PL Cup winning side and couldn’t wait to see him get into the first team on the regs.

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Re: Pauno out

by Donny Ironside » 31 Aug 2021 10:33

Zip I thought Kuhl was the real deal. He always looked like he had time on the ball and seemed like a fine passer. He briefly broke into the first team but for whatever reasons it didn’t work out. Serious injuries didn’t help thereafter.


He was a bit of an ego player IIRC.... thought he was a lot better then what he was, although he was good.


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Re: Pauno out

by Snowflake Royal » 31 Aug 2021 18:17

Zip I thought Kuhl was the real deal. He always looked like he had time on the ball and seemed like a fine passer. He briefly broke into the first team but for whatever reasons it didn’t work out. Serious injuries didn’t help thereafter.

He was very good when he played. A few MotM shouts iirc. Shit he certainly was not.

His career fell apart, but then it wouldn't be hard for many of the young lads coming through to have similar trajectories.

Injuries, poorly thought out loans to 'toughen him up', father on the payroll and questionable attitude / hyped to the point he didn't deal with it well maybe have done for him.

But yeah, I'd say if you saw him and thought he was shit, you'd have to be a bit clueless or have a ropey memory.

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Re: Pauno out

by karbota » 31 Aug 2021 19:04

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Zip I thought Kuhl was the real deal. He always looked like he had time on the ball and seemed like a fine passer. He briefly broke into the first team but for whatever reasons it didn’t work out. Serious injuries didn’t help thereafter.

He was very good when he played. A few MotM shouts iirc. Shit he certainly was not.

His career fell apart, but then it wouldn't be hard for many of the young lads coming through to have similar trajectories.

Injuries, poorly thought out loans to 'toughen him up', father on the payroll and questionable attitude / hyped to the point he didn't deal with it well maybe have done for him.

But yeah, I'd say if you saw him and thought he was shit, you'd have to be a bit clueless or have a ropey memory.


Same as your beloved Dennis Rakkels yeah?.

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Re: Pauno out

by Royal_jimmy » 11 Sep 2021 16:53

Think I'm definitely in the out camp now. Still conceding too many goals.

Have to win vs Peterborough

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Re: Pauno out

by Snowflake Royal » 11 Sep 2021 16:56

Not going to be in the Out camp, but really would not give a shit if he goes.


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Re: Pauno out

by leon » 11 Sep 2021 17:02

I’m struggling to suppress the conclusion that he doesn’t know how to put a team together to compete in this league.

And if that’s the case then we need someone who can, otherwise we are fcuked.

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Re: Pauno out

by Brogue » 11 Sep 2021 17:02

He has to go.

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Re: Pauno out

by Linden Jones' Tash » 11 Sep 2021 17:08

If you keep repeating the same mistakes and costing the team points, surely someone has to notice....

He should be toast after that substitution

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Re: Pauno out

by Royal_jimmy » 11 Sep 2021 17:11

19 goals conceded in 7 matches in league and cup just isn't good enough and the manager refuses to learn from his mistakes


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Re: Pauno out

by Millsy » 11 Sep 2021 17:12

Wow.

I was very close to Pauno Out last season when most were gushing over him finishing us 7th, and I've been anti-Pauno this season but come on this is all reactionary negativity here just because we didn't win.

That was a fantastic game, we were very good and the signings that we've seen are generally good.

Ok shite substitution, shite defending as ever but let's not be too harsh on Pauno, that was a MASSIVE improvement.

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Re: Pauno out

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 11 Sep 2021 17:14

leon I’m struggling to suppress the conclusion that he doesn’t know how to put a team together to compete in this league.

And if that’s the case then we need someone who can, otherwise we are fcuked.


Perhaps if he was choosing which players to sign it would help instead of them being foisted on him

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Re: Pauno out

by Royal_jimmy » 11 Sep 2021 17:16

Millsy Wow.

I was very close to Pauno Out last season when most were gushing over him finishing us 7th, and I've been anti-Pauno this season but come on this is all reactionary negativity here just because we didn't win.

That was a fantastic game, we were very good and the signings that we've seen are generally good.

Ok shite substitution, shite defending as ever but let's not be too harsh on Pauno, that was a MASSIVE improvement.


How was it an improvement? We conceded 3 goals again!!!!!!
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Re: Pauno out

by Brogue » 11 Sep 2021 17:17

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leon I’m struggling to suppress the conclusion that he doesn’t know how to put a team together to compete in this league.

And if that’s the case then we need someone who can, otherwise we are fcuked.


Perhaps if he was choosing which players to sign it would help instead of them being foisted on him


Link :?: I thought It was made quite clear that our chief exec can’t speak English and pauno was given complete license to sign the players including doing the contract negotiations.

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Re: Pauno out

by leon » 11 Sep 2021 17:17

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leon I’m struggling to suppress the conclusion that he doesn’t know how to put a team together to compete in this league.

And if that’s the case then we need someone who can, otherwise we are fcuked.


Perhaps if he was choosing which players to sign it would help instead of them being foisted on him


He doesn’t pick the team and make the substitutions then?

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Re: Pauno out

by Millsy » 11 Sep 2021 17:35

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Millsy Wow.

I was very close to Pauno Out last season when most were gushing over him finishing us 7th, and I've been anti-Pauno this season but come on this is all reactionary negativity here just because we didn't win.

That was a fantastic game, we were very good and the signings that we've seen are generally good.

Ok shite substitution, shite defending as ever but let's not be too harsh on Pauno, that was a MASSIVE improvement.


How was it an improvement? We conceded 3 goals again!!!!!!


The performance. We looked pretty good. We also scored 3 and could/should have won that game. 3-3 at the death feels like a defeat but against high flying QPR a draw/almost-win is a good result.

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Re: Pauno out

by Harpers So Solid Crew » 11 Sep 2021 17:46

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leon I’m struggling to suppress the conclusion that he doesn’t know how to put a team together to compete in this league.

And if that’s the case then we need someone who can, otherwise we are fcuked.


Perhaps if he was choosing which players to sign it would help instead of them being foisted on him


Link :?: I thought It was made quite clear that our chief exec can’t speak English and pauno was given complete license to sign the players including doing the contract negotiations.


You believe everything the club say.

Can't give a source, it's how it works.

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