Rival Watch

[Barney]

Derby to get a 12 point deduction, 3 of those points suspended.

Source?

Agree. Can anyone confirm this ? Can't find it anywhere.

[Ascotexgunner]

Think we maybe seeing the first managerial casualty. When we are bad....we are really bad but Forest are beyond that and dire. They look utterly clueless.
I've never rated Houghton's style of play and certainly was glad he never showed up at Reading. Brighton had sense to move on from him and I sense they were bored of his style as well.

[Ascotexgunner]

ROFL at Boro second goal.....priceless
That backpass was harder than any of Forests shots
Brutal from Boro fans....sacked in the morning chant

[Pepe the Horseman]

Fulham battering B'ham. Doesn't bode well for Saturday.

[NathStPaul]

Derby to get a 12 point deduction, 3 of those points suspended.

Source?

Agree. Can anyone confirm this ? Can't find it anywhere.

It was reported by Adrian Durham on TalkSport about 7pm. The EFL and Derby have agreed it, expected to be announced tomorrow.

[Ascotexgunner]

Fulham battering B'ham. Doesn't bode well for Saturday.

No problem....Fulham will be over confident and we will sneak the win.
Plus I'll wear my lucky Jan Kermogant shirt to the game.

[Lower West]

That's two places taken up then. We'll do well to get relegated now.

As long as we don’t get a points deduction too.

Yeh, there is that.

Hardly surprising our owners stance is not to talk directly to the fans.........

[Stranded]

That's two places taken up then. We'll do well to get relegated now.

As long as we don’t get a points deduction too.

We would need to be charged with something first. Not saying it isn't a possibility but it isn't immediate.

[NathStPaul]

That's two places taken up then. We'll do well to get relegated now.

As long as we don’t get a points deduction too.

We would need to be charged with something first. Not saying it isn't a possibility but it isn't immediate.

You'd think it would come next season if it happens.

[URZZZZ]

Hughton`s days have to be numbered at Forest if they lose tonight.

Believe tonight was the final straw, Hughton been sacked

[Crowbar6753]

Fulham battering B'ham. Doesn't bode well for Saturday.

Zonal marking against "Mitrovic" should be fun to watch

[genome]

Hughton`s days have to be numbered at Forest if they lose tonight.

Believe tonight was the final straw, Hughton been sacked

He's doing the post-match interviews right now, oddly

[WestYorksRoyal]

Source?

Agree. Can anyone confirm this ? Can't find it anywhere.

It was reported by Adrian Durham on TalkSport about 7pm. The EFL and Derby have agreed it, expected to be announced tomorrow.

Sky reporting it too. I wonder what threshold needs to be crossed for a points deduction to be imposed, and how close to the wind we're sailing.

[windermereROYAL]

Reported on Quest that the points deduction was for financial irregularities. in other words manipulating the figures. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it`s our turn next.

[tidus_mi2]

Reported on Quest that the points deduction was for financial irregularities. in other words manipulating the figures. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it`s our turn next.

We didn't manipulate figures though

[Simmops]

Source?

Agree. Can anyone confirm this ? Can't find it anywhere.

It was reported by Adrian Durham on TalkSport about 7pm. The EFL and Derby have agreed it, expected to be announced tomorrow.

That guy is clueless

[Stranded]

Reported on Quest that the points deduction was for financial irregularities. in other words manipulating the figures. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it`s our turn next.

We didn't manipulate figures though

Exactly - we have throughout this worked with the EFL and only bought players etc when we have been given the green light - and this summer worked strictly within their requirements - even not bringing in a stiker yet in line with the apparent 1 in, 1 out situation they have now applied.

We may end up seeing a deduction for breaching the loss limits but the embargo is there as a means to stop that happening and you would hope the limits the EFL have set are based on calculations of expected losses that will see us come in/or only just over the losses allowed - remember none of us know what impact Covid will have on the calculations for P&S - a lot of the losses we've seen may well be written off from a calculation perspective.

On the other hand, Derby have essentially been at war with the EFL for months - used creative accounting to stop them breaching P&S limits that was found to be dodgy - failed to resubmit accounts by the deadline, didn't pay players one month etc, etc.

So whilst we may one day see a points deduction (but by no means guaranteed), our situation is just not comparable to the Derby shitshow.

As may also have been mentioned, how annoyed would you be as a Wycombe fan right now - though they may find a promotion race more entertaining than another battle to stay up.

[Hendo]

Reported on Quest that the points deduction was for financial irregularities. in other words manipulating the figures. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it`s our turn next.

We didn't manipulate figures though

Exactly - we have throughout this worked with the EFL and only bought players etc when we have been given the green light - and this summer worked strictly within their requirements - even not bringing in a stiker yet in line with the apparent 1 in, 1 out situation they have now applied.

We may end up seeing a deduction for breaching the loss limits but the embargo is there as a means to stop that happening and you would hope the limits the EFL have set are based on calculations of expected losses that will see us come in/or only just over the losses allowed - remember none of us know what impact Covid will have on the calculations for P&S - a lot of the losses we've seen may well be written off from a calculation perspective.

On the other hand, Derby have essentially been at war with the EFL for months - used creative accounting to stop them breaching P&S limits that was found to be dodgy - failed to resubmit accounts by the deadline, didn't pay players one month etc, etc.

So whilst we may one day see a points deduction (but by no means guaranteed), our situation is just not comparable to the Derby shitshow.

As may also have been mentioned, how annoyed would you be as a Wycombe fan right now - though they may find a promotion race more entertaining than another battle to stay up.

This is true, but as someone I saw on twitter posted, they only ended up in the play-offs, when they got promoted, due to COVID and the league shutting down.

[Stranded]

We didn't manipulate figures though

Exactly - we have throughout this worked with the EFL and only bought players etc when we have been given the green light - and this summer worked strictly within their requirements - even not bringing in a stiker yet in line with the apparent 1 in, 1 out situation they have now applied.

We may end up seeing a deduction for breaching the loss limits but the embargo is there as a means to stop that happening and you would hope the limits the EFL have set are based on calculations of expected losses that will see us come in/or only just over the losses allowed - remember none of us know what impact Covid will have on the calculations for P&S - a lot of the losses we've seen may well be written off from a calculation perspective.

On the other hand, Derby have essentially been at war with the EFL for months - used creative accounting to stop them breaching P&S limits that was found to be dodgy - failed to resubmit accounts by the deadline, didn't pay players one month etc, etc.

So whilst we may one day see a points deduction (but by no means guaranteed), our situation is just not comparable to the Derby shitshow.

As may also have been mentioned, how annoyed would you be as a Wycombe fan right now - though they may find a promotion race more entertaining than another battle to stay up.

This is true, but as someone I saw on twitter posted, they only ended up in the play-offs, when they got promoted, due to COVID and the league shutting down.

True enough - would still feel like you've been cheated out of a place - wasn't it Peterborough who missed out and have now taken the place of whipping boys (apart from Forest) - so has probably all evened up. Would be quite entertaining to see Wycombe up and Derby down this season though.

At the moment, you would have to say that with the deductions and on what we've seen so far - the bottom 3 looks likely to be made up of 3 of Forest, Derby, Peterborough, Hull & Blackpool. I don't think we'll be too close to that lot for a too long. Fingers crossed.

[Hendo]

Exactly - we have throughout this worked with the EFL and only bought players etc when we have been given the green light - and this summer worked strictly within their requirements - even not bringing in a stiker yet in line with the apparent 1 in, 1 out situation they have now applied.

We may end up seeing a deduction for breaching the loss limits but the embargo is there as a means to stop that happening and you would hope the limits the EFL have set are based on calculations of expected losses that will see us come in/or only just over the losses allowed - remember none of us know what impact Covid will have on the calculations for P&S - a lot of the losses we've seen may well be written off from a calculation perspective.

On the other hand, Derby have essentially been at war with the EFL for months - used creative accounting to stop them breaching P&S limits that was found to be dodgy - failed to resubmit accounts by the deadline, didn't pay players one month etc, etc.

So whilst we may one day see a points deduction (but by no means guaranteed), our situation is just not comparable to the Derby shitshow.

As may also have been mentioned, how annoyed would you be as a Wycombe fan right now - though they may find a promotion race more entertaining than another battle to stay up.

This is true, but as someone I saw on twitter posted, they only ended up in the play-offs, when they got promoted, due to COVID and the league shutting down.

True enough - would still feel like you've been cheated out of a place - wasn't it Peterborough who missed out and have now taken the place of whipping boys (apart from Forest) - so has probably all evened up. Would be quite entertaining to see Wycombe up and Derby down this season though.

At the moment, you would have to say that with the deductions and on what we've seen so far - the bottom 3 looks likely to be made up of 3 of Forest, Derby, Peterborough, Hull & Blackpool. I don't think we'll be too close to that lot for a too long. Fingers crossed.

Yeah, I think it was Peterborough who missed out, it wasn't Sunderland was it? I can't remember now. Yeah, it would be nice to see Derby and Wycombe swap places at the end of the year.

Think you're right regarding the bottom 3, Forest might survive if they can have a very good new manager bounce. I would've put PNE in there as well after their display here earlier in the season, but they seemed to have turned it around a little bit.