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[South Coast Royal]

Kind of

It's the language of internet-keep up old man.

[6ft Kerplunk]

I'd not seen a full Man United match this season until yesterday. Is that a normal Ronaldo performance these days? Other than the disallowed goal and kicking the ball into Jones he was pretty anonymous. Certainly not worth ripping up the season's plans at the last minute to get him in. Sancho must be wondering what on earth he's done but at least he's got van de Beek to discuss it with on the bench.

[Sanguine]

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Number if goals Liverpool have scored in their 8 away games so far this season in all competitions.

Nine consecutive away games now in which Liverpool have scored at least three goals, as they won 3-0 at Burnley in their final away game last season. No idea if it is a record, but has to be, surely?

Salah's hat-trick the first by an opposition player at Old Trafford since (original) Ronaldo in 2003.

[Brum Royal]

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Number if goals Liverpool have scored in their 8 away games so far this season in all competitions.

Nine consecutive away games now in which Liverpool have scored at least three goals, as they won 3-0 at Burnley in their final away game last season. No idea if it is a record, but has to be, surely?

Salah's hat-trick the first by an opposition player at Old Trafford since (original) Ronaldo in 2003.

First ever away Prem hattrick at OT too. Ronaldo was still at Sporting Lisbon in 2003.

[Silver Fox]

I'd not seen a full Man United match this season until yesterday. Is that a normal Ronaldo performance these days? Other than the disallowed goal and kicking the ball into Jones he was pretty anonymous. Certainly not worth ripping up the season's plans at the last minute to get him in. Sancho must be wondering what on earth he's done but at least he's got van de Beek to discuss it with on the bench.

Tyler kind of mentioned it in passing but how delightful if United's desire to just not let the beloved CR7 play across the Citeh has totally ruined their season and scuppered all of Ole's plans

[NathStPaul]

Before collapsing in his third season and reverting to square one again

Like I’ve said before, Ole isn’t a winner like Mourinho so you pointing to trophies has no bearing on the conversation. In terms of league positions only, the progression is clear and evident. They finished 2nd with a midfield duo of Fred and McTominay, a duo most have stated aren’t even in the top 10 best in the league

They now have a much stronger squad so should kindly move Ole on but the flak he has gotten is unwarranted

Unless you’re being deliberately obtuse, there really isn’t anything in there which is hard to understand

Genuinely don't think you have a clue what you're talking about on this one, nothing personal.

I look a bit silly now

Nah not at all, it's not like they have been losing 5-0 every week. Even the comeback against Atalanta was encouraging last Wednesday.

Think Carragher was spot on, United aren't a team. They have great players but they are not a strong unit. Liverpool have a pretty small squad but they are all close and you can tell they are all mates who will run through brick walls for eachother. United were a complete embarrassment yesterday and should be ashamed.

[South Coast Royal]

BTW Martin Tyler was almost in tears towards the end of the commentary-he really is such a Man Utd fan.
I didn't realise though that Atalanta had 5 players out last week and their best player went off injured.

I thought before the season started that the pundits had gone OTT about Man Utd's chances to win the Premier League but whereas they have spent loads of money again to bring in players they have not created a team.

A fairly obvious opinion but IMHO Liverpool, City and Chelsea are way ahead of the rest and even at this fairly early stage they have it between them to fight out the top 3.

[URZZZZ]

Genuinely don't think you have a clue what you're talking about on this one, nothing personal.

I look a bit silly now

Nah not at all, it's not like they have been losing 5-0 every week. Even the comeback against Atalanta was encouraging last Wednesday.

Think Carragher was spot on, United aren't a team. They have great players but they are not a strong unit. Liverpool have a pretty small squad but they are all close and you can tell they are all mates who will run through brick walls for eachother. United were a complete embarrassment yesterday and should be ashamed.

Possibly as there does seem to be a recurring theme with United that the players down tools easily, and that’s now happened under 3 managers in a row

But then I also just don’t think some of their players are near good enough. McTominay, Fred, Lindelof, AWB etc. United simply had to bring in a world class midfielder in the summer, bought too many attackers and can’t keep them happy

As an aside, can’t really work out who the bad eggs in the squad would be. Pogba? Martial?

[Silver Fox]

BTW Martin Tyler was almost in tears towards the end of the commentary-he really is such a Man Utd fan.

He's a Woking fan

[paultheroyal]

BTW Martin Tyler was almost in tears towards the end of the commentary-he really is such a Man Utd fan.

He's a Woking employee

Corrected for you.

[South Coast Royal]

BTW Martin Tyler was almost in tears towards the end of the commentary-he really is such a Man Utd fan.

He's a Woking fan

And very pro-Man Utd.

[NathStPaul]

He isn't, it's a complete myth. Manchester United are historically successful so therefore his voice is associated with their era of dominance. That is then conflated as him being a supporter of them, he just isn't.

[Royal Rother]

<--- Agreed. (He's actually a Man City supporter, as clearly evidenced by how excited he got when City "stole" the PL title from Utd with their remarkable late comeback win v QPR.)

I'd not seen a full Man United match this season until yesterday. Is that a normal Ronaldo performance these days? Other than the disallowed goal and kicking the ball into Jones he was pretty anonymous. Certainly not worth ripping up the season's plans at the last minute to get him in. Sancho must be wondering what on earth he's done but at least he's got van de Beek to discuss it with on the bench.

Tyler kind of mentioned it in passing but how delightful if United's desire to just not let the beloved CR7 play across the Citeh has totally ruined their season and scuppered all of Ole's plans

I said at the time that Ronaldo would undoubtedly score goals but would have an overall negative effect on the team.

Similar to Mourinho.

Short-sighted short-term gains are absolutely not the way they are going to catch up on their superior rivals, long-term.

It felt odd yesterday supporting Liverpool, but I thoroughly enjoyed it.

[URZZZZ]

<--- Agreed. (He's actually a Man City supporter, as clearly evidenced by how excited he got when City "stole" the PL title from Utd with their remarkable late comeback win v QPR.)

I'd not seen a full Man United match this season until yesterday. Is that a normal Ronaldo performance these days? Other than the disallowed goal and kicking the ball into Jones he was pretty anonymous. Certainly not worth ripping up the season's plans at the last minute to get him in. Sancho must be wondering what on earth he's done but at least he's got van de Beek to discuss it with on the bench.

Tyler kind of mentioned it in passing but how delightful if United's desire to just not let the beloved CR7 play across the Citeh has totally ruined their season and scuppered all of Ole's plans

I said at the time that Ronaldo would undoubtedly score goals but would have an overall negative effect on the team.

Similar to Mourinho.

Short-sighted short-term gains are absolutely not the way they are going to catch up on their superior rivals, long-term.

It felt odd yesterday supporting Liverpool, but I thoroughly enjoyed it.

Kinda agree

The talent Ronaldo possesses is clearly undeniable but as I mentioned with Portugal in the summer, when he’s on the pitch, there’s too much of an emphasis on “where’s Ronaldo” and relying on him to do everything

[Sanguine]

Slightly bizarre sight yesterday, as United struggled to create anything up front, and Pogba got himself sent off trying to be the central midfielder that he isn't, of Lingard, Van De Beek and Sancho sat shivering on the bench.

[Simmops]

Slightly bizarre sight yesterday, as United struggled to create anything up front, and Pogba got himself sent off trying to be the central midfielder that he isn't, of Lingard, Van De Beek and Sancho sat shivering on the bench.

The way they just do not play Sancho is bizarre. Or maybe he just is not actually that good

[paultheroyal]

Treatment of bizarre and and Beek to a point is a disgrace. Absolute all out to buy him, pursued him, then dont play him.

[South Coast Royal]

He isn't, it's a complete myth. Manchester United are historically successful so therefore his voice is associated with their era of dominance. That is then conflated as him being a supporter of them, he just isn't.

You can tell by the emotion in his voice over the years and how he tends to look at games from a Man Utd perspective.
It's an observation made over many years-disagree if you like but I remain convinced (or deluded Liverpool bias if you prefer).

[NathStPaul]

He isn't, it's a complete myth. Manchester United are historically successful so therefore his voice is associated with their era of dominance. That is then conflated as him being a supporter of them, he just isn't.

You can tell by the emotion in his voice over the years and how he tends to look at games from a Man Utd perspective.
It's an observation made over many years-disagree if you like but I remain convinced (or deluded Liverpool bias if you prefer).

He's a commentator, its his job to be excited. It just so happens a lot of exciting moments have happened involving Manchester United down the years that he has commentated on. His voice is associated to their success and therefore can be construed as being supportive of them.
His commentary on the Aguero goal and a last minute Sunderland goal scored by Ji are just two examples of him getting very excited about other sides.

[South Coast Royal]

He isn't, it's a complete myth. Manchester United are historically successful so therefore his voice is associated with their era of dominance. That is then conflated as him being a supporter of them, he just isn't.

You can tell by the emotion in his voice over the years and how he tends to look at games from a Man Utd perspective.
It's an observation made over many years-disagree if you like but I remain convinced (or deluded Liverpool bias if you prefer).

He's a commentator, its his job to be excited. It just so happens a lot of exciting moments have happened involving Manchester United down the years that he has commentated on. His voice is associated to their success and therefore can be construed as being supportive of them.
His commentary on the Aguero goal and a last minute Sunderland goal scored by Ji are just two examples of him getting very excited about other sides.

Yes, I get your point that he gets very excited when commentating, which is part of his appeal, but when Man Utd aren't doing it he becomes almost morose , just like a fan.
Interesting in times when advanced age is seen as a handicap in the world of TV he has done really well to last so long and as a commentator is not far behind Wolstenhome , Coleman and Barry Davies-probably on a par with Brian Moore.