by Stranded » 14 Feb 2022 11:07
by andrew1957 » 14 Feb 2022 11:32
URZZZZandrew1957Rax Ok - I'll put my cards on the table - I want Brian McDermott back to manage our failing club.
He's the second most successful manager in our history, has already offered to "help out" despite shabby treatment on two previous occasions.
Would bring the feel good factor back, also he can't lose - we can't get any worse as a team!
Would cost little money and I'm sure Wally is available too as a no 2.
Get the dream team in
Personally would love him back. I thought both sackings were very unfair. In 2012 he achieved a miracle getting us promoted with a rag tag squad and we only added a few more players that summer and so we had virtually zero chance of surviving in the PL in 2012/2013.
And in 2015/2016 he took us to safety and I do wonder how things would have turned out if he had been able to rebuild that summer. Instead we sacked Brian and brought in Stam - who played the worst most boring football I can ever remember under any manager at RFC. Yes it was nearly successful if we had won the play off but was truly awful to watch. And ever since the play off failure in 2017 the club has just gone ever further downhill.
Bring Brian back.
Took us to safety in 2015/16? We weren’t too far off the playoffs when he joined. We ended no where near. Definitely would have persevered that summer rather than sack him but he didn’t do a good job in his second stint. He struggled with a fairly talented set of players
by Forbury Lion » 14 Feb 2022 11:41
by paultheroyal » 14 Feb 2022 11:43
Forbury Lion I like Brian too much to want him to come back and get messed around by the club again and potentially burn his bridges with his current employer, Fair enough if it's best for him though, he will need support - he can't do it all on his own and we have to assume the current coaching staff are part of the problem until proven otherwise.
by John Madejski's Wallet » 14 Feb 2022 11:45
Schards#2 Appointing Warnock would be the final straw for me, I have been a fan for over 50 years but could not support a team with him as manager. He is the antithesis of everything Reading once stood for.
by Forbury Lion » 14 Feb 2022 11:51
If the choice was Brian or Pauno though, I think Brian would be a better bet.Stranded No thanks. Love Brian but football has moved on whilst he hasn't been managing.
DoF yes, manager no.
by Elm Park Kid » 14 Feb 2022 12:02
URZZZZandrew1957Rax Ok - I'll put my cards on the table - I want Brian McDermott back to manage our failing club.
He's the second most successful manager in our history, has already offered to "help out" despite shabby treatment on two previous occasions.
Would bring the feel good factor back, also he can't lose - we can't get any worse as a team!
Would cost little money and I'm sure Wally is available too as a no 2.
Get the dream team in
Personally would love him back. I thought both sackings were very unfair. In 2012 he achieved a miracle getting us promoted with a rag tag squad and we only added a few more players that summer and so we had virtually zero chance of surviving in the PL in 2012/2013.
And in 2015/2016 he took us to safety and I do wonder how things would have turned out if he had been able to rebuild that summer. Instead we sacked Brian and brought in Stam - who played the worst most boring football I can ever remember under any manager at RFC. Yes it was nearly successful if we had won the play off but was truly awful to watch. And ever since the play off failure in 2017 the club has just gone ever further downhill.
Bring Brian back.
Took us to safety in 2015/16? We weren’t too far off the playoffs when he joined. We ended no where near. Definitely would have persevered that summer rather than sack him but he didn’t do a good job in his second stint. He struggled with a fairly talented set of players
by URZZZZ » 14 Feb 2022 12:03
Elm Park KidURZZZZandrew1957
Personally would love him back. I thought both sackings were very unfair. In 2012 he achieved a miracle getting us promoted with a rag tag squad and we only added a few more players that summer and so we had virtually zero chance of surviving in the PL in 2012/2013.
And in 2015/2016 he took us to safety and I do wonder how things would have turned out if he had been able to rebuild that summer. Instead we sacked Brian and brought in Stam - who played the worst most boring football I can ever remember under any manager at RFC. Yes it was nearly successful if we had won the play off but was truly awful to watch. And ever since the play off failure in 2017 the club has just gone ever further downhill.
Bring Brian back.
Took us to safety in 2015/16? We weren’t too far off the playoffs when he joined. We ended no where near. Definitely would have persevered that summer rather than sack him but he didn’t do a good job in his second stint. He struggled with a fairly talented set of players
My take on that period is that Brian decided to basically write off the season early on as the team was full of loan players who we definitely wouldn't be able to keep. He was more concerned with preparing the squad for a summer rebuild and coming out fighting the following season. The sad thing is that had we finished 7th rather than 17th he'd have probably stayed, but it would have made zero difference to us.
I don't think it was a complete coincidence that we then went on in the follow season to do so well under Stam.
by Pepe the Horseman » 14 Feb 2022 12:04
by Elm Park Kid » 14 Feb 2022 12:07
URZZZZElm Park KidURZZZZ
Took us to safety in 2015/16? We weren’t too far off the playoffs when he joined. We ended no where near. Definitely would have persevered that summer rather than sack him but he didn’t do a good job in his second stint. He struggled with a fairly talented set of players
My take on that period is that Brian decided to basically write off the season early on as the team was full of loan players who we definitely wouldn't be able to keep. He was more concerned with preparing the squad for a summer rebuild and coming out fighting the following season. The sad thing is that had we finished 7th rather than 17th he'd have probably stayed, but it would have made zero difference to us.
I don't think it was a complete coincidence that we then went on in the follow season to do so well under Stam.
Oh I don’t disagree. Definitely would have kept him and we’d be in a much better position now if we’d kept him. Was just surprised of the choice of words “he took us to safety”
by Elm Park Kid » 14 Feb 2022 12:08
Pepe the Horseman Brian till the end of the season would be a no brainer imo. If we went down, it wouldn't be on him. If we stayed up he'd be a hero again. Then walk away in the summer with his head held high.
by BraisingsteakRoyal » 14 Feb 2022 12:10
by andrew1957 » 14 Feb 2022 12:18
URZZZZandrew1957Rax Ok - I'll put my cards on the table - I want Brian McDermott back to manage our failing club.
He's the second most successful manager in our history, has already offered to "help out" despite shabby treatment on two previous occasions.
Would bring the feel good factor back, also he can't lose - we can't get any worse as a team!
Would cost little money and I'm sure Wally is available too as a no 2.
Get the dream team in
Personally would love him back. I thought both sackings were very unfair. In 2012 he achieved a miracle getting us promoted with a rag tag squad and we only added a few more players that summer and so we had virtually zero chance of surviving in the PL in 2012/2013.
And in 2015/2016 he took us to safety and I do wonder how things would have turned out if he had been able to rebuild that summer. Instead we sacked Brian and brought in Stam - who played the worst most boring football I can ever remember under any manager at RFC. Yes it was nearly successful if we had won the play off but was truly awful to watch. And ever since the play off failure in 2017 the club has just gone ever further downhill.
Bring Brian back.
Took us to safety in 2015/16? We weren’t too far off the playoffs when he joined. We ended no where near. Definitely would have persevered that summer rather than sack him but he didn’t do a good job in his second stint. He struggled with a fairly talented set of players
by Dirk Gently » 14 Feb 2022 12:34
by Royal_jimmy » 14 Feb 2022 12:35
by Snowflake Royal » 14 Feb 2022 12:38
John Madejski's WalletSchards#2 Appointing Warnock would be the final straw for me, I have been a fan for over 50 years but could not support a team with him as manager. He is the antithesis of everything Reading once stood for.
Reckon i'm with Schards on this one
Though my desperation for Reading to stay up right now might counter that feeling if it does happen
by Stranded » 14 Feb 2022 12:40
Dirk Gently Many of the key players in McDermott's successful teams are those that he's known for years and had frequently nurtured through the academy. That 2011/12 Championship winning team did so on unity and togetherness - which is what McD's good at.
he's a great youth development man, but I see no evidence that he's a good manager when it comes to managing a team of players who are at a club when he gets there, which is what he'd find here..
by Snowflake Royal » 14 Feb 2022 12:50
StrandedDirk Gently Many of the key players in McDermott's successful teams are those that he's known for years and had frequently nurtured through the academy. That 2011/12 Championship winning team did so on unity and togetherness - which is what McD's good at.
he's a great youth development man, but I see no evidence that he's a good manager when it comes to managing a team of players who are at a club when he gets there, which is what he'd find here..
His managerial record has only really been good with us. Though at Leeds, who were a basket case club then, he still managed a win percentage of 37% - if he managed that here, that's 6 wins. Nearest comparison we have really.
Still think his time has past but if the choice is him or some guy we've never heard of, who did well in a smaller league for a while, then I'd take Brian.
by Ascotexgunner » 14 Feb 2022 12:53
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