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Re: Rival Watch

by From Despair To Where? » 24 Feb 2022 10:46

We know Swift will be gone so if we could shift Moore and Puscas, that would be £75,000 a week off the wage bill.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Pepe the Horseman » 24 Feb 2022 10:48

As expected Grant McCann is back at Posh. Can't see him doing any better than Fergie, who will probably replace him when they're back here in a couple of years.

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Re: Rival Watch

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 24 Feb 2022 10:49

We will be trimming our wage bill by a good 30-40% this summer I imagine. If we are to sell Moore and Puscas, lose Swift and then others released such as Araruna who won't have his contract renewed I don't think either, we should be in a good place to give players new deals.

There will be plenty of free agents out there and if we can use the loan market well to bring in 5-6 players there and hopefully get some young talent in willing to prove themselves at this level, then we should be fine.

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Re: Rival Watch

by tidus_mi2 » 24 Feb 2022 11:38

YorkshireRoyal99 We will be trimming our wage bill by a good 30-40% this summer I imagine. If we are to sell Moore and Puscas, lose Swift and then others released such as Araruna who won't have his contract renewed I don't think either, we should be in a good place to give players new deals.

There will be plenty of free agents out there and if we can use the loan market well to bring in 5-6 players there and hopefully get some young talent in willing to prove themselves at this level, then we should be fine.

I believe we're still operating within the EFL agreed business plan next season but hopefully we have a bit more flexibility beyond no transfer fees and £8.5k/week

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Re: Rival Watch

by WestYorksRoyal » 24 Feb 2022 11:53

YorkshireRoyal99 We will be trimming our wage bill by a good 30-40% this summer I imagine. If we are to sell Moore and Puscas, lose Swift and then others released such as Araruna who won't have his contract renewed I don't think either, we should be in a good place to give players new deals.

There will be plenty of free agents out there and if we can use the loan market well to bring in 5-6 players there and hopefully get some young talent in willing to prove themselves at this level, then we should be fine.

Flip side is serious anxiety about the quality of the squad we will have. It's been a tough season this year, but ultimately we have better players than our relegation rivals which counts for a lot. That may not be true next year. We can overcome it with smart recruitment, better management and a more positive atmosphere, but don't underestimate the scale of the challenge that will face us next season should we survive this year.


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Re: Rival Watch

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 24 Feb 2022 12:08

Yeah that would be my worry (in terms of quality of squad) but I still think we would have enough quality in our squad anyway. I'd anticipate that Holmes and Rino would stay and sign new deals with us. We'd still have Joao, Meite and Ejaria as a front 3 regardless and there is enough quality there, hopefully we can tie down at least two of Hoilett, Halilovic and maybe Ince when he becomes a free agent which gives us some good depth there.

We would certainly need a Swift replacement, but we can easily pick up 2/3 good midfielders in the free market or loan area as well as a few decent full backs as well.

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Re: Rival Watch

by tidus_mi2 » 24 Feb 2022 12:11

Of course there are teams under threat of points deductions next season too, unless the EFL changes they recently brought in have massively shifted the goal posts.

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Re: Rival Watch

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 24 Feb 2022 12:19

I'd probably anticipate one or two other teams suffering points deductions next season. Bristol City and Stoke would be my guess unless something changes along the line, Middlesbrough will be on the list and maybe even Huddersfield as I know that their owner Phil Hodgkinson as put all 4 of his businesses into administration and if memory serves I believe their parachute payments are up this season (could be next - but it would still reduce anyway)?

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hound » 24 Feb 2022 12:32

If we stay up I reckon we’d

Sell Joao (wouldn’t want to but someone will fancy him)
Get stuck with Moore but loan him out again paying majority of wages
Sell Puscas

Re-sign Rino, Holmes, Hoilett, Laurent, Yiadom, Morrison, Dann

Not bother with Halilovic. TDB will go back, Swift will obviously move on. Drinkwater and Baba will go somewhere else

And so start with a squad something like

Southwood, Yiadom, Dann, Morrison, Holmes, McIntyre, Rino, Laurent, Hoilett, Ejaria, Meite, Tetek, Azeez and youth Teamers

Big ask would be replacing Joao and Swift obviously. And getting full back cover


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Re: Rival Watch

by PATRIQT » 24 Feb 2022 12:33

tidus_mi2 Of course there are teams under threat of points deductions next season too, unless the EFL changes they recently brought in have massively shifted the goal posts.


Bristol City are one of those clubs. There are several. Next season could be very interesting.

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Re: Rival Watch

by blythspartan » 24 Feb 2022 12:49

Listening to Putin’s speech this morning this could all be irrelevant soon.

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Re: Rival Watch

by NathStPaul » 24 Feb 2022 12:52

blythspartan Listening to Putin’s speech this morning this could all be irrelevant soon.

:roll:

Bugger off to AE if you want to talk about politics, this is a football forum. Nobody wants to think about politcs here, we want to argue with Ian Royal about pointless football related issues and talk about Posh going down to 10 men.

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Re: Rival Watch

by blythspartan » 24 Feb 2022 13:00

NathStPaul
blythspartan Listening to Putin’s speech this morning this could all be irrelevant soon.

:roll:

Bugger off to AE if you want to talk about politics, this is a football forum. Nobody wants to think about politcs here, we want to argue with Ian Royal about pointless football related issues and talk about Posh going down to 10 men.


Yep, sorry that was a rubbish post :oops:


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Re: Rival Watch

by Stranded » 24 Feb 2022 13:02

Hound If we stay up I reckon we’d

Sell Joao (wouldn’t want to but someone will fancy him)
Get stuck with Moore but loan him out again paying majority of wages
Sell Puscas

Re-sign Rino, Holmes, Hoilett, Laurent, Yiadom, Morrison, Dann

Not bother with Halilovic. TDB will go back, Swift will obviously move on. Drinkwater and Baba will go somewhere else

And so start with a squad something like

Southwood, Yiadom, Dann, Morrison, Holmes, McIntyre, Rino, Laurent, Hoilett, Ejaria, Meite, Tetek, Azeez and youth Teamers

Big ask would be replacing Joao and Swift obviously. And getting full back cover


You are probably not far off but if we stay up and it is still a big if despite this week - I would only be selling Joao if we are really, really struggling to make the budget or if it becomes clear he has no intention of staying beyond next summer.

As we've seen, he is a massive difference maker and could be the difference between a side being relegated or being safe. Can take a mid table side to play-offs etc - it would almost be worth the hit of losing him for nothing as we stand a better chance of still being a Champ side come summer of 23 when the restrictions are gone.

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Re: Rival Watch

by NathStPaul » 24 Feb 2022 13:02

blythspartan
NathStPaul
blythspartan Listening to Putin’s speech this morning this could all be irrelevant soon.

:roll:

Bugger off to AE if you want to talk about politics, this is a football forum. Nobody wants to think about politcs here, we want to argue with Ian Royal about pointless football related issues and talk about Posh going down to 10 men.


Yep, sorry that was a rubbish post :oops:

And what is more exciting in the grand scheme of things? Catching and passing Hull City or massive armed conflict in Europe? Think we all know the answer.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Millsy » 24 Feb 2022 13:19

Posh have changed manager. McCann is in. Hope that doesn't give them the boost, but their players are shite unlike us so I doubt it.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Pepe the Horseman » 24 Feb 2022 13:26

Millsy Posh have changed manager. McCann is in. Hope that doesn't give them the boost, but their players are shite unlike us so I doubt it.

Yeh, think it's very much planning for next year. Didn't do great in his first spell there, but is a club legend and has done ok since.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Silver Fox » 24 Feb 2022 13:30

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Hound If we stay up I reckon we’d

Sell Joao (wouldn’t want to but someone will fancy him)
Get stuck with Moore but loan him out again paying majority of wages
Sell Puscas

Re-sign Rino, Holmes, Hoilett, Laurent, Yiadom, Morrison, Dann

Not bother with Halilovic. TDB will go back, Swift will obviously move on. Drinkwater and Baba will go somewhere else

And so start with a squad something like

Southwood, Yiadom, Dann, Morrison, Holmes, McIntyre, Rino, Laurent, Hoilett, Ejaria, Meite, Tetek, Azeez and youth Teamers

Big ask would be replacing Joao and Swift obviously. And getting full back cover


You are probably not far off but if we stay up and it is still a big if despite this week - I would only be selling Joao if we are really, really struggling to make the budget or if it becomes clear he has no intention of staying beyond next summer.

As we've seen, he is a massive difference maker and could be the difference between a side being relegated or being safe. Can take a mid table side to play-offs etc - it would almost be worth the hit of losing him for nothing as we stand a better chance of still being a Champ side come summer of 23 when the restrictions are gone.


Absolutely, sell Joao and we might as well just give up on the whole thing

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Re: Rival Watch

by Hound » 24 Feb 2022 13:31

Silver Fox
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Hound If we stay up I reckon we’d

Sell Joao (wouldn’t want to but someone will fancy him)
Get stuck with Moore but loan him out again paying majority of wages
Sell Puscas

Re-sign Rino, Holmes, Hoilett, Laurent, Yiadom, Morrison, Dann

Not bother with Halilovic. TDB will go back, Swift will obviously move on. Drinkwater and Baba will go somewhere else

And so start with a squad something like

Southwood, Yiadom, Dann, Morrison, Holmes, McIntyre, Rino, Laurent, Hoilett, Ejaria, Meite, Tetek, Azeez and youth Teamers

Big ask would be replacing Joao and Swift obviously. And getting full back cover


You are probably not far off but if we stay up and it is still a big if despite this week - I would only be selling Joao if we are really, really struggling to make the budget or if it becomes clear he has no intention of staying beyond next summer.

As we've seen, he is a massive difference maker and could be the difference between a side being relegated or being safe. Can take a mid table side to play-offs etc - it would almost be worth the hit of losing him for nothing as we stand a better chance of still being a Champ side come summer of 23 when the restrictions are gone.


Absolutely, sell Joao and we might as well just give up on the whole thing


I'd love to keep him. However if someone comes in with a 10m bid, I'm not sure we can.

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Re: Rival Watch

by Millsy » 24 Feb 2022 13:37

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Millsy Posh have changed manager. McCann is in. Hope that doesn't give them the boost, but their players are shite unlike us so I doubt it.

Yeh, think it's very much planning for next year. Didn't do great in his first spell there, but is a club legend and has done ok since.


Yeah could be.

They were down to 10 men the other day apparently.

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