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Re: Next Reading Manager

by NathStPaul » 29 Mar 2022 12:00

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NathStPaul People are still engaging with him.... Incredible.


Nothing wrong with engaging in people IMO. Just makes them look even more thick.

It's just not worth it though. He is a known racist who deserves to be ignored like all racists do. Each to their own though.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by karbota » 29 Mar 2022 19:23

royalstevep68 I’d be happy with ainsworth, but would like to see how ince develops. Who knows maybe ince will work out. But you can’t miss what a fine job ainsworth has done with Wycombe on a shoestring budget against some big teams.


Ainsworth, yes that's a good call but has to be Parky for me and the SM of all Reading fans.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by karbota » 29 Mar 2022 19:30

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From Despair To Where? 2 words.

Parky's Trapdoor.

And for those not in the know, it was a phrase coined by Bradford players because he would go missing whenever they wanted to speak to him.


Ignore the Bankers fake news above the real Bradford fans had a different view

" Parkinson took over a Bradford City side who were staring into the barrel of oblivion. Having twice suffered administration since their Premier League days, the club was flirting dangerously with dropping out of the Football League altogether when Parkinson took over. He has since turned the club's fortunes on its head, taking them up to League One through the play-offs, in the same season that they had an extraordinary cup run all the way to the League Cup final, beating Arsenal and Villa (over two legs) on the way.

The Bantams have since consolidated in League One and finished fifth this season, with the best defensive record in the division (and the whole Football League) in terms of clean sheets. They then lost out to Millwall in the play off semi finals.

Parkinson also took Bradford on a memorable cup run to the FA Cup Quarter Finals in their second season in League One, before losing out to Reading in a replay. The Bantams famously defeatedd Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on another extraordinary cup run.
No wonder the Bantum fans still refer to him as the "Real Special One"

Also to add during this spell Parky won numerous MOM awards and an Outstanding Managerial Achievement award

Recently spoke to a Colchester United fan who assures me that Parkinson was a terrific manager who instilled a free-flowing attacking style of football taking the Us to 2nd in the table and promotion to the Championship.


Funny you mention Bradford fans because my mate who is a die-hard Bradford fan and has been going since he was 3 years old has said that the football under Parkinson was the worst football he has seen at the club, although did compromise and say that Derek Adams' was close to overtaking it.

Bradford were solid under Parkinson and produced some memorable moments for where they were, but he never managed to take them to the Championship and, whilst he did build a good side with very limited resources, many people had complaints with his man management skills and style of play, at the time anyway. Since his days at Bradford, he's not exactly pulled up trees anywhere. Doing well with Wrexham this season but that should be a given considering the backing they've got these days and that's in the National League.

He'd have a lot more to prove before I think he'd be worthy of taking over ourselves, even if we did end up in League One next season.


That is exactly why we need him now.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Loafer » 30 Mar 2022 00:39

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Ignore the Bankers fake news above the real Bradford fans had a different view

" Parkinson took over a Bradford City side who were staring into the barrel of oblivion. Having twice suffered administration since their Premier League days, the club was flirting dangerously with dropping out of the Football League altogether when Parkinson took over. He has since turned the club's fortunes on its head, taking them up to League One through the play-offs, in the same season that they had an extraordinary cup run all the way to the League Cup final, beating Arsenal and Villa (over two legs) on the way.

The Bantams have since consolidated in League One and finished fifth this season, with the best defensive record in the division (and the whole Football League) in terms of clean sheets. They then lost out to Millwall in the play off semi finals.

Parkinson also took Bradford on a memorable cup run to the FA Cup Quarter Finals in their second season in League One, before losing out to Reading in a replay. The Bantams famously defeatedd Chelsea at Stamford Bridge on another extraordinary cup run.
No wonder the Bantum fans still refer to him as the "Real Special One"

Also to add during this spell Parky won numerous MOM awards and an Outstanding Managerial Achievement award

Recently spoke to a Colchester United fan who assures me that Parkinson was a terrific manager who instilled a free-flowing attacking style of football taking the Us to 2nd in the table and promotion to the Championship.


Funny you mention Bradford fans because my mate who is a die-hard Bradford fan and has been going since he was 3 years old has said that the football under Parkinson was the worst football he has seen at the club, although did compromise and say that Derek Adams' was close to overtaking it.

Bradford were solid under Parkinson and produced some memorable moments for where they were, but he never managed to take them to the Championship and, whilst he did build a good side with very limited resources, many people had complaints with his man management skills and style of play, at the time anyway. Since his days at Bradford, he's not exactly pulled up trees anywhere. Doing well with Wrexham this season but that should be a given considering the backing they've got these days and that's in the National League.

He'd have a lot more to prove before I think he'd be worthy of taking over ourselves, even if we did end up in League One next season.


That is exactly why we need him now.

So not for any of the stuff I've put in bold then? You thick pcunt

We don't want or need him. A black manager such as the current one is fine isn't it KKKarboot?

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by hughsies no.1 » 30 Mar 2022 10:27

Stay up or relegated.

It will be Paul Ince.


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Weymouth Royal » 30 Mar 2022 11:07

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royalstevep68 I’d be happy with ainsworth, but would like to see how ince develops. Who knows maybe ince will work out. But you can’t miss what a fine job ainsworth has done with Wycombe on a shoestring budget against some big teams.


Ainsworth, yes that's a good call but has to be Parky for me and the SM of all Reading fans.


Have you contributed to the Cocaine thread yet?

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 30 Mar 2022 11:42

hughsies no.1 Stay up or relegated.

It will be Paul Ince.


I genuinely hope this isn't the case. It's nothing personal against Ince, but he's been hired as an interim manager and that's what he should stay as for me. I think we need a proper manager from next season onwards with plenty of experience across various jobs with a clear idea of how we want to play.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Snowflake Royal » 30 Mar 2022 11:51

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hughsies no.1 Stay up or relegated.

It will be Paul Ince.


I genuinely hope this isn't the case. It's nothing personal against Ince, but he's been hired as an interim manager and that's what he should stay as for me. I think we need a proper manager from next season onwards with plenty of experience across various jobs with a clear idea of how we want to play.

If he finishes with a good record, I'd rather him than gamble on us making a good appointment with out dreadful track record.

If its average or worse, fine. Change is right.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 30 Mar 2022 11:55

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hughsies no.1 Stay up or relegated.

It will be Paul Ince.


I genuinely hope this isn't the case. It's nothing personal against Ince, but he's been hired as an interim manager and that's what he should stay as for me. I think we need a proper manager from next season onwards with plenty of experience across various jobs with a clear idea of how we want to play.

If he finishes with a good record, I'd rather him than gamble on us making a good appointment with out dreadful track record.

If its average or worse, fine. Change is right.


I definitely think it makes him a justifiable candidate if we do finish the season strongly, but I just don't think he should be the person who takes us forward. Interim managers do not tend to work out when in the job for one reason or another, just look at Bowen as a prime example. I know that wasn't so much performance-related but still, it didn't work. Even managers like Solskjaer at United, it never really worked out after a good period an an interim. I just say we bring him in for the job we are asking him to do, shake hands if completed or not and both parties move on. That would be my ideal scenario.


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Millsy » 31 Mar 2022 11:42

If Incy Wincy keeps us up I'm more than happy for him to given a chance next season.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Hound » 31 Mar 2022 11:57

Prob not just keeping us up. If we stay up only because Barnsley and co have shocking runs then it’d be a no

He’s implemented some good things. How much is just an obvious undoing of some of Pauno’s shitness is open to debate though

But yeah I quite like him personally. Seems to have a good rapport with the players but also tough enough to give them both barrels when needed

We’ll see

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 31 Mar 2022 12:09

I'll still stick with my original opinion about wanting someone else to come in and to just shake hands with Ince. If he does an unbelievable job between now and the end of the season, my opinion may change if he seems right for the club. If he ends up doing what his remit is, keeping us up, then just have both parties move on and look to appoint someone who can build with the club.

I'd want someone with a good style of play and can nurture through young talent personally.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by morganb » 31 Mar 2022 12:30

So how does it work? Does Mr Yonge simply decide who he wants and goes to get him or does Kia just say "here is your new manager". Surely we would have some kind of interview process and if Ince applies and is best for the job he gets it, else it goes to someone "better".


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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Hound » 31 Mar 2022 12:46

YorkshireRoyal99 I'll still stick with my original opinion about wanting someone else to come in and to just shake hands with Ince. If he does an unbelievable job between now and the end of the season, my opinion may change if he seems right for the club. If he ends up doing what his remit is, keeping us up, then just have both parties move on and look to appoint someone who can build with the club.

I'd want someone with a good style of play and can nurture through young talent personally.


Do we know Ince wouldn’t do that? He does have a fair bit of experience and has built other teams successfully in the past

Good style of play is a bit difficult to judge. Unless you are Jaap Stam then winning football tends to be enjoyable football. Certainly didn’t enjoy Pauno’s teams a lot of the time and on paper you’d think that’d be quite enjoyable and a modern way of playing. Gomes similar really

Probably enjoyed early Pauno/early Bowen as much as anything in recent years

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Millsy » 31 Mar 2022 13:29

I get what you guys are saying.

Look at my "slight concern" thread, I didn't necessarily want him around, his start was poor and we'd all love a proven decent chap to come in.

But let's be realistic: we don't have anyone. Dai is sat in China with his finger up his arse havgin done f**k all really about the situation and only reacted because of increasing protests by getting a player's dad in. He didn't even speak to Warnock it sounds like. He won't have anyone else waiting, or he's tried and no one wants it. And what are our chances next year anyway with a depleted squad and financial worries?

Next season is pretty much a write off, we have no saviour planned and they wouldn't do much with our resources anyway. Everything is just a bit "meh." If he keeps us up, let him stay I don't really care anymore.
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Re: Next Reading Manager

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 31 Mar 2022 13:37

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YorkshireRoyal99 I'll still stick with my original opinion about wanting someone else to come in and to just shake hands with Ince. If he does an unbelievable job between now and the end of the season, my opinion may change if he seems right for the club. If he ends up doing what his remit is, keeping us up, then just have both parties move on and look to appoint someone who can build with the club.

I'd want someone with a good style of play and can nurture through young talent personally.


Do we know Ince wouldn’t do that? He does have a fair bit of experience and has built other teams successfully in the past

Good style of play is a bit difficult to judge. Unless you are Jaap Stam then winning football tends to be enjoyable football. Certainly didn’t enjoy Pauno’s teams a lot of the time and on paper you’d think that’d be quite enjoyable and a modern way of playing. Gomes similar really

Probably enjoyed early Pauno/early Bowen as much as anything in recent years


Not necessarily no but I've seen no real signs of that as of right now. Which is why I'd rather him be an interim manager and nothing further because I wouldn't want him to successfully keep us up playing as we are now and then change his playing style again come the summer, it just won't end well.

Agree in principle, I'd rather have a team winning than not, that's the priority and that makes it more enjoyable but I'd also want a team that plays good football as well. Gomes and Pauno had the footballing aspect, not so much the results, not consistently anyway. I don't see why that can't be achieved in the modern game to be honest, plenty of teams do it, just like at the likes of Luton this season and even the likes of Preston in previous years as well who played some pretty nice stuff without being spectacular, Bristol City as well. I'm listing off clubs who were play off challengers/top half teams previously as I believe that's where we should be competing realistically.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by URZZZZ » 31 Mar 2022 14:19

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YorkshireRoyal99 I'll still stick with my original opinion about wanting someone else to come in and to just shake hands with Ince. If he does an unbelievable job between now and the end of the season, my opinion may change if he seems right for the club. If he ends up doing what his remit is, keeping us up, then just have both parties move on and look to appoint someone who can build with the club.

I'd want someone with a good style of play and can nurture through young talent personally.


Do we know Ince wouldn’t do that? He does have a fair bit of experience and has built other teams successfully in the past

Good style of play is a bit difficult to judge. Unless you are Jaap Stam then winning football tends to be enjoyable football. Certainly didn’t enjoy Pauno’s teams a lot of the time and on paper you’d think that’d be quite enjoyable and a modern way of playing. Gomes similar really

Probably enjoyed early Pauno/early Bowen as much as anything in recent years


I'd also want a team that plays good football as well. Gomes and Pauno had the footballing aspect, not so much the results, not consistently anyway


Unless I’m missing the point here, and I get it’s all rather subjective, I don’t see how a team that had so few shots for such a long period (in general and on target) equates to “good football”. What constitutes that “footballing aspect”? A team that slowly passes it around the edge of the opposition half? Wasn’t too dissimilar with Gomes either

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by YorkshireRoyal99 » 31 Mar 2022 14:39

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Do we know Ince wouldn’t do that? He does have a fair bit of experience and has built other teams successfully in the past

Good style of play is a bit difficult to judge. Unless you are Jaap Stam then winning football tends to be enjoyable football. Certainly didn’t enjoy Pauno’s teams a lot of the time and on paper you’d think that’d be quite enjoyable and a modern way of playing. Gomes similar really

Probably enjoyed early Pauno/early Bowen as much as anything in recent years


I'd also want a team that plays good football as well. Gomes and Pauno had the footballing aspect, not so much the results, not consistently anyway


Unless I’m missing the point here, and I get it’s all rather subjective, I don’t see how a team that had so few shots for such a long period (in general and on target) equates to “good football”. What constitutes that “footballing aspect”? A team that slowly passes it around the edge of the opposition half? Wasn’t too dissimilar with Gomes either


I class "good football" as a team who keeps hold of the ball well, have a good, clear identity in the way they play and are positive in the build up of the ball. This doesn't always equate to playing out from the back and playing 50 passes per shot, I quite like direct football, but I quite like a style of football that is different from the grain. Yes, possession-football is very common, but Gomes and Pauno played a front-foot, possession style in a different way to others. You saw tactics like runners from deep under Pauno, Laurent and Semedo for instance, Olise who used to drop in and retain the ball well, Ejaria who could retain the ball well etc. When it worked, it was a joy to watch.

Brentford are, by and large, a club that play "good football", yet they are very much direct. Nice build up play, good quality through the midfield and the thirds, but look to attack the back post from crosses and will overload that area when the ball is in a wide area, for example. As you say, it's all subjective, but I quite like a style that has some variances from the norm.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by glenroyal » 31 Mar 2022 17:27

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royalstevep68 I’d be happy with ainsworth, but would like to see how ince develops. Who knows maybe ince will work out. But you can’t miss what a fine job ainsworth has done with Wycombe on a shoestring budget against some big teams.


Ainsworth, yes that's a good call but has to be Parky for me and the SM of all Reading fans.


Parky's been my favourite for several rounds of manager changes already, still is, but having heard Ince talk about the club today, I'd be happy with him having a longer shot at it.

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Re: Next Reading Manager

by Ascotexgunner » 31 Mar 2022 22:01

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royalstevep68 I’d be happy with ainsworth, but would like to see how ince develops. Who knows maybe ince will work out. But you can’t miss what a fine job ainsworth has done with Wycombe on a shoestring budget against some big teams.


Ainsworth, yes that's a good call but has to be Parky for me and the SM of all Reading fans.


Parky's been my favourite for several rounds of manager changes already, still is, but having heard Ince talk about the club today, I'd be happy with him having a longer shot at it.


Absolutely NO to Parkinson. It will end in tears.
I'm coming round to Ince.....very slowly, if he were offered the job.
What sways me is that he doesn't seem to be a yes man. I think he would definitely want a say in transfers and is clearly someone that would challenge any decision above or any influence on the owner (such as from our so called "superagent").
Next season is gonna be so hard....especially if we stay up.

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